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Micah 03-13-2014 10:50 AM

Live crawfish
 
Anybody bought some recently? I was just told $4.50/lb! That's around $157 for a sack.

AubreyLaHaye458 03-13-2014 11:00 AM

The farmers are getting $3 right now


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haoward 03-13-2014 11:16 AM

2.50 to 3.50 a lb in abbbille

Super Spook 03-13-2014 12:15 PM

I hear JT's was getting around $4.50 as well. We paid $3.00 from a farmer this past weekend.

BigChaf 03-13-2014 07:15 PM

Prices will drop after lent.

swampman46 03-13-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChaf (Post 671870)
Prices will drop after lent.

Problem remains however, that the after lent price is increasing more and more. The time will come that the regular guy like myself, will be priced right out of the season. I mean, where is the ceiling? :( $4.50/lb for live crawfish-in March-is ridiculous. Are crawfish prices even regulated?

AubreyLaHaye458 03-13-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 671880)
Problem remains however, that the after lent price is increasing more and more. The time will come that the regular guy like myself, will be priced right out of the season. I mean, where is the ceiling? :( $4.50/lb for live crawfish-in March-is ridiculous. Are crawfish prices even regulated?


It's supply and demand. Plain and simple. When they're catching well the price goes down and when the catch goes down the price goes up. And the catch almost directly affected by the weather and a winter like this one will seriously delay the season. Consistently warmer weather=lower prices.


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papap 03-13-2014 08:24 PM

A lot of it is not the amount they are catching. Its the amount that is being shipped everywhere now adays.

Top Dawg 03-13-2014 09:52 PM

I hope they all rot in the sack

AubreyLaHaye458 03-13-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 671901)
I hope they all rot in the sack


That's nice


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eman 03-13-2014 10:01 PM

Price is not regulated. Folks in Missouri are happy to get 3 lbs boiled w/ 1 potato and 1/2 ear corn for $20. Wholesalers can make more $$$ shipping mudbugs up north. So either we pay the price or they get shipped. I say ship em.

Spunt Drag 03-13-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by papap (Post 671885)
A lot of it is not the amount they are catching. Its the amount that is being shipped everywhere now adays.

Ding ding ding!!!

southern151 03-13-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 671880)
Problem remains however, that the after lent price is increasing more and more. The time will come that the regular guy like myself, will be priced right out of the season. I mean, where is the ceiling? :( $4.50/lb for live crawfish-in March-is ridiculous. Are crawfish prices even regulated?

You're free to go catch your own. Buy the gas, the license, the boat, the bait, the traps. Then spend 12 hours a day trying to find em and, moving trap after trap. It's a 100% profit business!

southern151 03-13-2014 10:24 PM

When I spent my days on the water in '09 we were LUCKY to catch 5 sacks a day on 250 traps! Now, the same 250 traps caught 28-30 sacks per day, seven days a week in May. Guess what, the prices were significantly less in May.

MathGeek 03-13-2014 10:48 PM

God bless the Louisiana crawfishers. I hope they make lots of $$$. I don't care what they cost. When I want crawfish, I'll gladly pay. It's tough making a living from the water.

If you want a better deal, write your legislature to reduce regulations on the seafood industry, not add more.

Top Dawg 03-13-2014 11:23 PM

I'll catch my own

SteelD 03-14-2014 05:36 AM

Well said Math! I think most people do not realize how much work is involved in raising & harvesting crawfish!
Been there, done that, still ware the T-shirt!


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Lil Silver 03-14-2014 06:31 AM

I remember back in the day when I was a lil fart......27 - 30 cents a pound. My dad and uncle would drive to Breaux Bridge and come back with a truck bed full. Just dumped em in the back and threw ice on top. Boiled crawfish all day....walking backwards at the end of the day.

fishinpox 03-14-2014 06:38 AM

Use your EBT card ........ Lmao

BuckingFastard 03-14-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 671884)
It's supply and demand. Plain and simple. When they're catching well the price goes down and when the catch goes down the price goes up. And the catch almost directly affected by the weather and a winter like this one will seriously delay the season. Consistently warmer weather=lower prices.


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thats what they want you to think... they say the same crap every year... too cold, too wet, too dry, too hot, too many beers. theres always an excuse and they just know these idiots will pay $100 for a meal that doesnt fill them up since its "cajun".

BuckingFastard 03-14-2014 06:47 AM

crawfish farmers are making money off land they already use for agriculture. my friend does it and makes a killing. the only thing he has to pay for is diesel for the water pumps. the rest is already there! hard to make a living... right... hes getting rich off of nothing.

BassYakR 03-14-2014 06:48 AM

boiled crabs or shrimp over crawfish anyday! And I can get my own of both of those for just a lil gas money.

AubreyLaHaye458 03-14-2014 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 671936)
thats what they want you to think... they say the same crap every year... too cold, too wet, too dry, too hot, too many beers. theres always an excuse and they just know these idiots will pay $100 for a meal that doesnt fill them up since its "cajun".


"They" are not telling us anything other than what's going on. I see it everyday just like I have been all my life. The sane reason nobody planted any rice it corn before this week. It's been too cold and none if you can deny that! Just like fishing, when it's cold they don't move and the catch goes down. And it won't get good and stay good until it stays warm for more days than it is cold.


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BuckingFastard 03-14-2014 06:54 AM

well that would be like trying to pick a crop before its ripe also. we start eating the crawfish too soon every year.

AubreyLaHaye458 03-14-2014 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 671943)
well that would be like trying to pick a crop before its ripe also. we start eating the crawfish too soon every year.


That's why most if them didn't start running till mid-February or later at least when they usually start the first of the year. It's not that they start too early, they start when the catch is worth the gas and the bait it takes to run.


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BuckingFastard 03-14-2014 07:33 AM

doesnt take much to make it worth 4-5/lb

swampman46 03-14-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 671908)
You're free to go catch your own. Buy the gas, the license, the boat, the bait, the traps. Then spend 12 hours a day trying to find em and, moving trap after trap. It's a 100% profit business!

You've forgotten one crucial item...the field, the water to pump in that field. NOT something just anyone can jump into. So when you say "free to catch your own"...not exactly. But I think understand what you're saying, there is a cost in raising crawfish. But has that cost increased this much since last year? I don't remember what crawfish were going for at this time last year(maybe someone here remembers), but this has to be at least a 50% increase.

swampman46 03-14-2014 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 671884)
It's supply and demand. Plain and simple. When they're catching well the price goes down and when the catch goes down the price goes up. And the catch almost directly affected by the weather and a winter like this one will seriously delay the season. Consistently warmer weather=lower prices.


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That's not exactly always the case. We've had cold winters before. We've had a short supply before. We've never had $4.50/lb live crawfish in March before. Problem is, there is a lot of greed along the crawfish grapevine. Now THAT is plain and simple.

southern151 03-14-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 671959)
You've forgotten one crucial item...the field, the water to pump in that field. NOT something just anyone can jump into. So when you say "free to catch your own"...not exactly.

The spillway is plum full of them. I never caught a single crawfish from a pond. And, the water, pumps and, land are very expensive...It's a greedy business. Again, Henderson and, Pierre Part has plenty of unleased waters to fish from. It's the hardest I've ever worked but, the most fun I ever had working, with the exception of getting stung by yellow jackets on a near daily basis!

AubreyLaHaye458 03-14-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 671960)
That's not exactly always the case. We've had cold winters before. We've had a short supply before. We've never had $4.50/lb live crawfish in March before. Problem is, there is a lot of greed along the crawfish grapevine. Now THAT is plain and simple.


That's inflation. Just like everything else in the world it's getting more expensive. The price of fuel goes up the price of bait goes up the price of labor goes up, you can't seriously the cost of the product to say the same


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swampman46 03-14-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 671961)
The spillway is plum full of them. I never caught a single crawfish from a pond. And, the water, pumps and, land are very expensive...It's a greedy business. Again, Henderson and, Pierre Part has plenty of unleased waters to fish from. It's the hardest I've ever worked but, the most fun I ever had working, with the exception of getting stung by yellow jackets on a near daily basis!

Congrats, you are one of the lucky ones. In my area it's not an option. I remember a time back in my childhood when farmers would let people go in and crawfish their ponds...and yes that was a lot of fun.

Pull n Pray 03-14-2014 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 671962)
That's inflation. Just like everything else in the world it's getting more expensive. The price of fuel goes up the price of bait goes up the price of labor goes up, you can't seriously the cost of the product to say the same


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The price of fuel has been pretty flat over the past 6 years, so I'm getting tired of that excuse. The bottom line is the crawfish farmers will charge whatever they can get for them. If restaurants and these drive thru places wouldn't sell out at ridiculous prices, they would be forced to lower the price. Capitalism at work.

Paulox86 03-14-2014 08:20 AM

Come on guys. Once price goes up and the market sustains it, the price will never go down. These prices will stay regardless of catch cost because people will pay. Don't sell a man a pound of crawfish at $2 when he is willing to pay $6. These things will be $7-$8 a pound in the next few years and boiling shacks will still sell out by 6pm on the weekends.


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AubreyLaHaye458 03-14-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pull n Pray (Post 671967)
The price of fuel has been pretty flat over the past 6 years, so I'm getting tired of that excuse. The bottom line is the crawfish farmers will charge whatever they can get for them. If restaurants and these drive thru places wouldn't sell out at ridiculous prices, they would be forced to lower the price. Capitalism at work.


The farmers don't set the price. You think they'd let it get down below $3 if it was up to them? It's not like they're raking in the money here? The price is high because they aren't catching. It may be 3 or 4 dollars a pound, but 7 sacks on 100 acres doesn't exactly leave a whole lot if profit. The price could be $10 a pound but that probably means they're catching like 10 pounds a day


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jpcajun 03-14-2014 08:36 AM

I agree with Aubrey.... I work with these farmers everyday! Farmers dont set their prices! There is a market price.

I can assure you that not all farmers are making a killing like someone suggested in a previous post!

papap 03-14-2014 08:55 AM

Lots of crawfish getting shipped out of state. Years ago no one else even ate crawfish.

BuckingFastard 03-14-2014 09:00 AM

aliens

Ragin_Cajun 03-14-2014 09:04 AM

I'm receiving quotes to boil 2,000 lbs of crawfish with all of the fixings. We have been having this boil for over 15 yrs. This year, the quotes that have come in are through the roof! They have pretty much doubled. The boil takes place first weekend in May which is well after lent. Pretty crazy if you ask me!

swamp snorkler 03-14-2014 09:07 AM

To many middle men in the business.

southern151 03-14-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 671990)
To many middle men in the business.

The docks are the big problem in this business. Fishermen are terrified of them. If they catch too much, the dock won't buy them. If they catch too little, the dock will black list them. Everyone's "hero" Troy Landry is right up there in the dock a-hole list!:work:

jpcajun 03-14-2014 09:47 AM

The reason the bid is still high in May is because of the horrible winter we had; there is no way of knowing if the farmers will be able to catch up the month or so that they werent able to fish. They cannot speculate that there will be plenty of crawfish based off of this past winter. Last year was different, a very mild winter so it was a lot easier to say that there would be lots and lots of crawfish after lent; this year is very different.

swampman46 03-14-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 671937)
crawfish farmers are making money off land they already use for agriculture. my friend does it and makes a killing. the only thing he has to pay for is diesel for the water pumps. the rest is already there! hard to make a living... right... hes getting rich off of nothing.

Absolutely. Some of us see it for what it really is. ;)

swampman46 03-14-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jpcajun (Post 671978)
I can assure you that not all farmers are making a killing like someone suggested in a previous post!

I also worked for a farmer years ago when the prices were a lot less than now and he did very well. So well in fact that he once questioned why was he farming? :D
As far as not all farmers making a killing...you're right. The farmers that are doing well will tell you, "You take out what you put into it." ;)

BIG RED 1983 03-14-2014 10:13 AM

Farmers have them we want them what's the problem all you have to do is say no and not buy any problem solved. No need to get your panties in a wad over it.

MathGeek 03-14-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 671937)
crawfish farmers are making money off land they already use for agriculture. my friend does it and makes a killing. the only thing he has to pay for is diesel for the water pumps. the rest is already there! hard to make a living... right... hes getting rich off of nothing.

I had a side job on a crawfish farm when I was in school. It isn't easy and it isn't cheap. It requires risky financial investments and hard work. You go slog around in crawfish ponds for a while, deal with all the gov regulations, and put up money for the required investments, and then get back to us with what you'd like to sell a pound of crawfish for.

Capitalism isn't always ideal for the consumer, but it sure beats the alternatives.

mriguy 03-14-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 671937)
crawfish farmers are making money off land they already use for agriculture. my friend does it and makes a killing. the only thing he has to pay for is diesel for the water pumps. the rest is already there! hard to make a living... right... hes getting rich off of nothing.

Yea diesel is extremely cheap, they practically give away that artificial bait as well

AubreyLaHaye458 03-14-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mriguy (Post 672012)
Yea diesel is extremely cheap, they practically give away that artificial bait as well

Don't forget about the shad too. Cheap cheap. And easy and enjoyable to deal with.


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mriguy 03-14-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 672014)
Don't forget about the shad too. Cheap cheap. And easy and enjoyable to deal with.


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So easy, everybody should do it.

My lovely wife's family must be loaded, they have been doing this for a loooong time

AubreyLaHaye458 03-14-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mriguy (Post 672017)
So easy, everybody should do it.



My lovely wife's family must be loaded, they have been doing this for a loooong time


Yeah. lol They're loaded alright!


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Lil Silver 03-14-2014 11:30 AM

It all boils down to dis. Some sorry sucka let word out about how good dey are. Dey told da friend of a friends, unc's, niece's sister's brudda and he told sumbody from outa state somewhere or sumpim sumpin like dat. Now errybody wants our crawfish. It was sposed to be a secret. Da puzzy's out da bag now, no be turning dat back!


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