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Jcomeaux 02-28-2014 12:31 PM

Looking for offshore advice
 
I have an 18ft Nautic star and looking to go offshore to catch Mahi Mahi out of cameron what time of year is the best to go and how far out do i have to go.

Goooh 02-28-2014 01:02 PM

Never IMO

calcutta37 02-28-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 668944)
Never IMO

My thoughts also..

Mako19 02-28-2014 01:21 PM

Grand isle the deep water is closer.

We go in a deep V 19' mako and have been 40 miles out of grand isle amd have never found blue enough water for mahi mahi.

If you have a shallow nautic star I don't think I would bring it offshore for palegic fishing.

Maybe red snapper but then again you can cach red snapper 10-15 miles out of grand isle. I would think you need to be a minimum of 20 miles out of cameron for the same water depth.

Clampy 02-28-2014 01:32 PM

Water deeper out of forchon.
Fourchon is prolly 7-8 miles further south than GI


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Clampy 02-28-2014 01:39 PM

I wouldn't try in that small a boat but if you are going to do it I believe going out of fourchon would be a lot better and closer. You would have to prolly go 50 plus miles out of Cameron and Gi


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Clampy 02-28-2014 01:42 PM

There is a good wreck about 25 miles out of fourchon that holds ling grouper and snapper but no Mahi. I would wait till you boat grew about 10'.


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Mako19 02-28-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 668951)
Water deeper out of forchon.
Fourchon is prolly 7-8 miles further south than GI


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I remember you telling me that last year. I looked on a map and its obvois that Fourchon sticks out further.

This year we will definitely launch at Fourchon and give it a try.

BuckingFastard 02-28-2014 01:47 PM

that sounds very dangerous in that small boat. going out of cameron for mahi is a long run.

Clampy 02-28-2014 02:00 PM

I got a 21' and I want to hit that wreck out of forchon to fly fish some cobia but I'm still hesitant all though I've seen plenty of 24' bay boats out there.


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Clampy 02-28-2014 02:02 PM

I don't really think it's a wreck I think it's one of the rigs to reefs deals.


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Mako19 02-28-2014 02:16 PM

Let's hook up and run out there together.

Having a buddy boat is the way to go and always makes me feel more confident.

Clampy 02-28-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 668973)
Let's hook up and run out there together.

Having a buddy boat is the way to go and always makes me feel more confident.


Yeah maybe we can do that ON A CALM DAY ;)


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Clampy 02-28-2014 02:23 PM

I gotta get the humming bird installed with the 360 imaging. The I pilot is gonna be great over that thing. If you can anchor in 70' anchoring off the edge up current from it would be ideal and chum back too it. It's hard to get the groupers out if you right on top of it.


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Jcomeaux 02-28-2014 02:42 PM

sounds like a bigger boat is the way to go. i been maybe 5 miles out but no more than 10 miles on a calm day. i was a little past the trash line but it was a very calm day.

spotchasin 02-28-2014 02:55 PM

18 footer can catch you trout out of cameron is about all. Got to run a long ways south to get to deep enough water. Closest I have caught dolphin was about 20 miles and they were tiny.

Mako19 02-28-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcomeaux (Post 668985)
sounds like a bigger boat is the way to go. i been maybe 5 miles out but no more than 10 miles on a calm day. i was a little past the trash line but it was a very calm day.

I know it isn't the same when you aren't in YOUR OWN boat, but just get a charter out of Venice 1-2 times a year for your palegic fishing.

Those guys are set up and know how to put you on the fish.

In my opinion, it is more cost effective to just get a charter than to own a boat that size and all of the equipment it takes.

BROWN FIN 02-28-2014 03:06 PM

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You people crack me up.


Out Cameron in a 18'.

Jcomeaux 02-28-2014 03:21 PM

Nice Fish How Far out you go

cgoods17 02-28-2014 03:22 PM

well good thing we were talking about snapper instead of dauphin..


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Mako19 02-28-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BROWN FIN (Post 668995)
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You people crack me up.


Out Cameron in a 18'.

You won't be running into any dauphin in that crappy water...

Jcomeaux 02-28-2014 03:24 PM

well either way id like to catch both. when it comes to saltwater fishing i don't discriminate. I'd like to catch both.

BROWN FIN 02-28-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 668999)
You won't be running into any dauphin in that crappy water...

Got a buddy that landed a sail in worse out of Cameron about 20 miles. You never know sometimes.

bayouchub 02-28-2014 03:30 PM

Is he talkin about the shorts?

BROWN FIN 02-28-2014 03:39 PM

Looking for offshore advice
 
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 669003)
Is he talkin about the shorts?

Lol. They were on the Clearance rack.

meaux fishing 02-28-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 668973)
Let's hook up and run out there together.

Having a buddy boat is the way to go and always makes me feel more confident.


You n me gonna have to hook up in GI a few times this year. I'll be down there the first week and weekend of the season for sure

Dink 02-28-2014 04:02 PM

State Season starts next month, right?

haoward 02-28-2014 04:06 PM

We should get a group off bay boat and run for snapper ect. Been wanting to take my 22 ft pathfinder for snapper but I am too much of a chicken to make a run by myself lol.

Mako19 02-28-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 669010)
State Season starts next month, right?

Pretty sure that state season opened last weekend.

Mako19 02-28-2014 04:40 PM

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You n me gonna have to hook up in GI a few times this year. I'll be down there the first week and weekend of the season for sure

I'm game.
If the seas are right we are usually out there every saturday and going to try to line up a week of vacation and stay out there a whole week this year.

My buddy has a brand new 26' Contender and this will be his first year offshore fishing.

We had a few good trip last year:

Let um land 02-28-2014 04:46 PM

Camron
 
Fish the grass lines at 50 miles plus. See bay boats out there all the time! Big kuhona's!

Chip Landry 02-28-2014 05:43 PM

We've caught small chicken dolphin(nothing over 24") in that area on grass lines and floating debris 30-40ish miles out.

Chip Landry 02-28-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 669023)
I'm game.
If the seas are right we are usually out there every saturday and going to try to line up a week of vacation and stay out there a whole week this year.

My buddy has a brand new 26' Contender and this will be his first year offshore fishing.

We had a few good trip last year:

Who's the guy with holding that AJ with the tagging device in his mouth? Looks like one of my buddies Jd..

"W" 02-28-2014 05:53 PM

If you go offshore in a 18-22ft single motor boat by your self, far enough to catch snapper

#1 Hope you have good friends
#2 Have 911 and Coast Guard on speed dial


I have been working out in the Gulf going on 15 years and have seen it go from glass to 10 ft waves with 60pmh winds in thunder storms
Your playing a game against mother nature and just remember you might do it 100xs but that one time will be the worst experience you ever have in your life in a boat




We got caught in a squall 5 years ago 34 miles out of Cameron in a 30ft Fountain with 3 engines and had my life jacket on tight and with knuckles praying to God that we survive


That would of put a single engine boat on bottom



Thats all I have to say about that!!

Clampy 02-28-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 669043)
If you go offshore in a 18-22ft single motor boat by your self, far enough to catch snapper

#1 Hope you have good friends
#2 Have 911 and Coast Guard on speed dial


I have been working out in the Gulf going on 15 years and have seen it go from glass to 10 ft waves with 60pmh winds in thunder storms
Your playing a game against mother nature and just remember you might do it 100xs but that one time will be the worst experience you ever have in your life in a boat




We got caught in a squall 5 years ago 34 miles out of Cameron in a 30ft Fountain with 3 engines and had my life jacket on tight and with knuckles praying to God that we survive


That would of put a single engine boat on bottom



Thats all I have to say about that!!


Yep


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Goooh 02-28-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 669043)
If you go offshore in a 18-22ft single motor boat by your self, far enough to catch snapper

#1 Hope you have good friends
#2 Have 911 and Coast Guard on speed dial


I have been working out in the Gulf going on 15 years and have seen it go from glass to 10 ft waves with 60pmh winds in thunder storms
Your playing a game against mother nature and just remember you might do it 100xs but that one time will be the worst experience you ever have in your life in a boat




We got caught in a squall 5 years ago 34 miles out of Cameron in a 30ft Fountain with 3 engines and had my life jacket on tight and with knuckles praying to God that we survive


That would of put a single engine boat on bottom



Thats all I have to say about that!!


Yeppppppp! Everyone on here has made fun of the weather man for being wrong all the time, yet people will trust him when their life most depends on it.

Not many second chances out there

MathGeek 02-28-2014 06:30 PM

Pensacola is not that far a drive. Folks over that way get into a lot of neat fish within sight of the beach. No need to risk lives bringing a small boat 50 miles out.

Depending on your species preferences, there is a lot of neat stuff off of the big bend area of Florida too.

The silt and nutrients from the Mississippi are a great blessing to Louisiana, but they also define some of the limitations.

And if you must chase the pelagics off the LA coast, a ride in the charter boats is very cost effective when compared to a ride in a hearse.

Mako19 02-28-2014 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 669043)
If you go offshore in a 18-22ft single motor boat by your self, far enough to catch snapper

#1 Hope you have good friends
#2 Have 911 and Coast Guard on speed dial


I have been working out in the Gulf going on 15 years and have seen it go from glass to 10 ft waves with 60pmh winds in thunder storms
Your playing a game against mother nature and just remember you might do it 100xs but that one time will be the worst experience you ever have in your life in a boat




We got caught in a squall 5 years ago 34 miles out of Cameron in a 30ft Fountain with 3 engines and had my life jacket on tight and with knuckles praying to God that we survive


That would of put a single engine boat on bottom



Thats all I have to say about that!!

Nothing to argue with there.
Its a calculated risk.

Mako19 02-28-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip Landry (Post 669038)
Who's the guy with holding that AJ with the tagging device in his mouth? Looks like one of my buddies Jd..

Fishmaster 911.

He tagged that AJ anf it was captured again 4 days later at the same platform.

"W" 03-01-2014 07:59 AM

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This is from about 3 years ago, this boat was out fishing and got in some rough weather and starting taking on water. He was next to our platform and was spotted by a work boat we had in the area.

Now this crew has God on there side because water came on so fast they lost all radio signal and could not get any cell service with the one phone that was not wet while trying to bilge the boat out.

This boat sunk to the bottom with end 25mins and the 6 people were saved by our work boat .

The odds of them having some one to see them and find them in the Gulf of Mexico like this is a once in a lifetime deal. Because your a needle in a haystack out here

Jadams 03-02-2014 11:50 AM

Gotta respect it I used to go fifty all the time in my twenty four just lost one of my .best friends Chsing a fish too deep diving he knew better he made a poor decision and now lots are suffering dont put a fish in front family without a buddy boat r twins u got no business out there I learned my lesson ill never have speargun in my hands again

Mako19 03-02-2014 12:22 PM

Sorry to hear about your friend Jared.

Freediving or SCUBA?

Jadams 03-02-2014 12:31 PM

Scuba but could happen easily free diving I was goin thru a rig and split my head on a cross beam and saw stars coulda easily knocked me out and I'd be in same spot. Some people love doin it as I did but to me it aint worth the risk

specktator 03-02-2014 12:43 PM

Sorry about your boy. Man I always wanted to spearfish. When I was a kid, my dad and them would do it all the time while I stayed on the boat and fished. Once I got old enough to go he quit going. I think mainly cause he knew he was going to have to let me jump in and he didn't want me to. After hearing this story though is why I haven't tried it. Too many things out of your control.
Farthest I go offshore is a few miles chasing trips. That's the extent of my offshore fishing.

jchief 03-02-2014 01:11 PM

Jared, was Mike free diving or on air?

And very sorry for your loss again. He went to school with Matt also.

Jadams 03-02-2014 01:15 PM

On air around 200 which was too deep pushed it and something went wrong no1 will ever know either got the bends and blacked out r ran out and tried to come up too quick floated up to surface they tried CPR but no luck

meaux fishing 03-02-2014 03:15 PM

That's terrible news...sorry for the loss of your buddy

SULPHITE 03-02-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 669376)
Gotta respect it I used to go fifty all the time in my twenty four just lost one of my .best friends Chsing a fish too deep diving he knew better he made a poor decision and now lots are suffering dont put a fish in front family without a buddy boat r twins u got no business out there I learned my lesson ill never have speargun in my hands again

Got word about this yesterday...really sad...I saw him just about every day at the gym I know some people are hurting right now

GoneFishin 03-09-2014 12:45 AM

Just make sure you have good offshore lifejackets with strobe lights attached......lol.


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