Whooping cranes mean more than people.
 

LDWF is offering a $15,000 reward for the whooping crane shooting. The Jeff Davis 8 reward was only $35,000, for 8 brutally murdered people!!! Been sayin this crane project was a huge waste. I guess there's plenty of women, but we running out of whooping cranes. Idiots

I wonder where thet gettin that 15k from? Sounds like a taxpayer funded reward to me. What a waste of our money if thats the case. Another fine example of government BS

They really should have implemented the program in another state. Preferably one where the people don't see every animal as the start to a good gravy!

Waste of money. A damn bird

Huge waste of money.

Outta go say I did it. Can't see the fine being more than $15k for shooting one!

Freaken bird!!.. 15k for a bird

If they would not make a big whhhooo rhaaay about them im sure people would never notice them

Gotta agree with the fine, the whooping cane is an endangered bird. there are only approx 450 left in the world. Maybe the dumb asses that keep shooting them will finally learn a lesson,

You crazy

They will give you life and take away your rights, make you a female, fine every one you know, burn your SS card, take your birthday away, use your prints on thr JFK murders, DNA you to OJ

449 now.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

There are a lot more women on crack than there are whooping cranes. Whence the difference in the rewards!!!!!!!!

couldn't agree more with this. I never knew they even came to this state, but ever since they been talking about them, I now look for them

If ya'll think $15k is bad, don't go look at the budget on these birds. They ought to throw the same amount in the way of a fine at the bozzo that did this, or MORE!! That's not a cheap project.

How much do you think one bird is costing? I'm sure the GPS tracking units that they use on the birds costs around the price of the reward. I think its a good idea, moneys already allocated to projects like these. I would rather see it spent in Louisiana than some goby in a creek in the middle of nowheres.

Well, the first group was 10 birds, and the budget for the first year was $400,000, so that works out to about $40,000 a bird. Of course, the birds themselves didn't cost that, but if you want to divide it up that way, that's what you get.

If you look back in LDWF's archives, the reward was the same amount when the birds were killed last summer. Don't know why everyone is making such a big deal out of this now. If people had such a problem with it, why didn't the raise hell about it when the project was first starting?

Trillions in debt and we blowin money on a crane.

I did, I said it was stupid then, and I'm sayin it's stupid now.

What Smalls didn't tell you that this is a 20 year project. So $400K x 20 years = HOLY CRAP!! Costs keep going up.

The other thing that Smalls didn't tell you is that the Louisiana population has been labeled as an Experimental population that is UNNECESSARY for the long term survival of the species by the USFWS. Most biologists give the project less than a 30% chance for success (none will share that on the record) and after the 20 years is up then there is no current plans to continue the project. I calculated conservatively that the cost per surviving bird in the LA population would be between $1-$2 million per bird.

Robbie aka Big Hutch

Still spreading completely false info I see:rotfl::shaking:

Please tell me where you derived $1-2 million per bird. The difference between 1-2 million is purty significant don't ya think (not what I would call 'calculating' more like guessing eh?). Me thinks your math is way off. I don't want you estimating for me if you are only coming within a million dollars per anything:spineyes:
And where in the world did you come up with these biologists that are giving a 30% chance for success? ('none that will share their name'). That's like W getting on here talking about how he heard there was a huge redfish kill behind the weirs yet the pics don't surface = no credibility:grinpimp:

and the 20 year project? come on man all this is right there on the interwebz bro its a 15 year project


Dammit Smalls, spunt and topdwawg trolling again and we sure enough took the damn bait:work:

First off, according to LDWF's website, this is a 15 year project. Second, if we go by your math, they would $6 million. That means you are projecting only 3-6 birds to survive? It also states that they project needing to raise $3-4 million to fund a portion of the project. I would think conservatively, you are looking at $8 million. So by your math, that is only 4-8 birds surviving.

To date, they have done 4 releases , and this is the 3rd year of the project if I'm not mistaken. So, that means they have probably spent around $1.2 million to maybe $2 million. Currently, there are 21 adult birds and 10 juvenile birds in the population. So 31 birds, not counting the injured male. So by my math, to this point, you are probably looking at somewhere around $38k to $65k per bird at this point.

I didn't go in to all of those details because I didn't see it as pertinent to the current conversation. This thread was started in regards to the reward being offered.

I'm not saying its a good or bad use of money. Personally, I like whooping cranes. I think its a cool species, and maybe if they some how defy that 30% rate that everyone is sticking to them, maybe we can LEGALLY blast them one day. Doubt it, but who knows.

All I can say is, if you don't like it, call your congressman.

They can troll all the want. Sometimes I get a kick out of debating with a brick wall.

Me too:rotfl:

You would think with these birds now on government assistance they would multiply like crazy. Just gotta get them to understand the more offspring, the more birdseed.

Hey, and I mean that in the nicest way possible too. At least some people can stick to their guns and don't cave to someone else's opinion.

Got a lot of strong willed brick walls around here. :rotfl:

I'm just tryin to figure out if y'all are arguin or agreeing wit each other?

agreeing that hutch's posts are not tellin da 'hole' truth brah and kinda ribbing him for a $1-2 million estimation per bird, I mean he is a biologist/forester, and they supposed to do lotsa estimating I think:grinpimp: Having a + or - of $1 million ain't a good estimate, will get your butt canned quick

:cheers: Now this guy gets it!!!!



$1,000,000 a bird or $65,000 a bird, it doesn't make any difference.

http://i.imgur.com/pK2Piat.jpg

I don't know about you, but that is a BIG DIFFERENCE in my book! I'd rather have $1 mil in my pocket than $65,000 if I had to choose between the two. But if I'm spending money, I'd rather spend $65,000 than $1 mil.

I don't know all the details behind this (apparently Hutch does though), so I don't know where that money came from, but I'm sure its some kind of special project fund or something that they are using. I would like to see the budget and see where it does come from. If it comes from funds generated from license sales, Pittman-Robinson funds, etc., then I see no problem with this. That is what those funds are meant to be used for--WILDLIFE.

Could it have been used in other places? I'm not sure, without knowing where that money came from. It might be specifically dedicated to a certain program, or related to some grant.

Most on here won't look into it, they'll just pick the side that feels toughest and roll with whatever they are capable of regurgitating.

And the reward for the killer is $85,000

If I remember right, last time WLDF didn't use their money, Jindal decided to take a few million from it to go help his political run for presidency...

I see there are very few members of the Audubon Society residing here! If these were pintails shot out of season everyone would be screaming to lynch up the outlaws. Give these cranes a chance, along with bald eagles in our area.

Price of a crane more than what 75% of La people make a year

We need to work harder to build the populations back up to huntable levels.

Let's form a chapter of Whooping Cranes Unlimited!

There are a lot of people in Louisiana who think that the money spent on our coastal erosion protection plans is wasted money. They think that their pockets are worth more than some salt water fish. Intelligent sportsmen understand that, divided, we fall.

Now thats what im talking about, are they good to eat?

Too many people will accuse WCU of short-stopping the cranes in Ark.

Not sure how coastal erosion is related to salt water fish, but yeah, sure. :confused:

Last I checked, coastal erosion is about the land, not the wildlife.

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Only Certain DU members are allowed to shoot pintails out of season. FACT!

I can see it now

2035 WL&F have a two WC limit

WCU getting blamed for pumping hot water in fields to keep WC from migrating down

Sorry, double post.

So millions of dollars to restore an absolutely useless bird is the path we need to be on? Just tryin to get on the same page.

Yes

Yep, abortion is legal but you go to jail for shooting an oversized egret. Trillions in debt but there is nothing better to do w the money.

Exactly, I hunt close to white lake preserve and they drained most of the water in the marsh for these birds and has killed a lot of mallard habitation, all for a few nasty birds!!

The only question I have is; how did they become almost extinct??

And if they could not survive then, what in the hell makes our WL& F think they can survive now??

You wont here me screaming for a lynching. If some dude is hunting down his next supper he should roll a few of em. Thats how the good lord meant it to be. If not he woulda made wlf before he made critters and told us to kill and eat em. It was human greed that caused all the beaurocratic BS. If people would have continued to take what was needed and no more than that we wouldnt have all these freaking (not the word I wanted to use) opossum cops running around pretending to save the world. Bunch of egotistical *****s.

I watched a show a good while back and it dealt with the Louisiana Red Wolf. La. wlf was euthanizing pups believed to be a wolf/coyote cross. If that is accurate I would love to know when wlf decided they were God. If that show was accurate I see that as a species trying to survive in some form. If thats the case the wlf should stay the hell out of the way and let nature be nature. If the show nat geo or discovery is accurate it is another pathetic use of taxdollars.

Don't worry people, we are your government and we are here to take care of you

Wikipedia says "unregulated hunting and habitat loss"

So under your line of thinking why bring back redfish when they crashed?
People were the cause of both of them to decline.