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fishinpox 02-09-2014 10:52 PM

Rifle for wife
 
Looking at getting my wife a hunting rifle. She has a bad habit of closing her eyes b.4 pulling the trigger when she fires my rifle (270wsm) because of the recoil . I think it scares/ hurts her. While in Africa she used a 243 that had a suppressor ... No issues , minimal recoil. So I figured I'd get her a tikka 243, but started looking at ballistics and noticed most 243 are 80-90 grain bullets and tend to drop like crazy on longer shots. So I started looking at tge 308 , much better. What is your thoughts?

MathGeek 02-09-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 664592)
Looking at getting my wife a hunting rifle. She has a bad habit of closing her eyes b.4 pulling the trigger when she fires my rifle (270wsm) because of the recoil . I think it scares/ hurts her. While in Africa she used a 243 that had a suppressor ... No issues , minimal recoil. So I figured I'd get her a tikka 243, but started looking at ballistics and noticed most 243 are 80-90 grain bullets and tend to drop like crazy on longer shots. So I started looking at tge 308 , much better. What is your thoughts?

You can usually find a .243 load that meets your terminal performance criteria and drops a lot less then the .308 with a similar BC bullet. If I was setting up a .243 for a family member, I'd set them up with a 1 in 8" twist barrel to shoot 105 grain bullets. Depending on barrel length, muzzle velocities can be 2900-3000 ft/s. BCs are available up to 0.500. Much flatter shooting at longer ranges than .308 Win which will often be below 2500 ft/s with BCs of 0.500.

If you love the Tikka and can't get in a high twist barrel, the .260 Rem is available with a 1 in 8" twist that will shoot 130-140 grain high BC bullets with less recoil than the .308 and awesome long range potential. My daughter wants to build a .260 Rem for her shooting.

BIG RED 1983 02-10-2014 12:11 AM

.257 Roberts or 7mm08 would me my choices

AceArcher 02-10-2014 02:19 AM

I am not an expert but i would hold off on the .308 they are not women / child friendly from a recoil standpoint either... IMO.

Clampy 02-10-2014 06:58 AM

243 or 7m 08.


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Big Hutch 02-10-2014 09:53 AM

I would look at a .260 or 7mm-08 if it were me. Just my 2 cents

Robbie aka Big Hutch

FF_T_Warren 02-10-2014 09:56 AM

Depends on your wife really. I love my 308. Recoil to me is great compared to my 270. I've never shot a 243 but comparing sizes, if she does great with that, I'd think a 308 would be fine. But I'm sure others here have shot both and can compare

CajunChristian 02-10-2014 03:49 PM

Awwww man, I thought you wuz tradin yer wife fer a rifle. I wuz gonna ax you fer pictures.:) JUST KIDDING!!!!!
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weedeater 02-10-2014 04:28 PM

Remington makes a Model 7 (same action as 700) they call the ladies gun because they are a bit shorter, very nice rifle and you can get them in a .243 and a few other rounds

Wide Open 02-10-2014 05:47 PM

7mm-08 in the most heavy bolt action you can find. you can also put a muzzle break on it that will also reduce the recoil.
the Tikka's are damn fine guns, but id stay away from the T3-light if recoil is a prob.
I should know I shoulder a 300WSM in a T3-light when I hunt out to 300yds or better.

meathauler 02-10-2014 08:54 PM

7mm-08.
Browning makes a great line of youth and women's models.

I make oil 02-10-2014 10:00 PM

Look at the Benelli R1. You can find them in .308 they are great rifles, semi auto and hardly kick at all.

swt70611 02-11-2014 07:43 AM

May sound crazy but I'd go with a AR-10. Has less recoil than a bolt action 308 and the stock will adjust with both of you. Plus quality 308 ammo is common at sporting good stores but she can practice with the milatary trash ammo.

fishinpox 02-11-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by swt70611 (Post 664843)
May sound crazy but I'd go with a AR-10. Has less recoil than a bolt action 308 and the stock will adjust with both of you. Plus quality 308 ammo is common at sporting good stores but she can practice with the milatary trash ammo.

Thought about that, only concern is the weight and her having to pack that in the woods

southern151 02-11-2014 09:31 AM

Pox, give me a call on this. I have a few ideas, some of which echo what has been said already. 7-08 is a great round with minimal recoil. I have several rifles that she can try out, if you guys would like.

kt9089 02-11-2014 09:51 AM

I bought my wife a savage lady hunter in .308 and she loves it. She is 5'1" & 110 lbs. and the recoil doesn't bother her at all.

duckman1911 02-11-2014 01:14 PM

7mm-08 is an excellent low recoiling cartridge. Load a 140grn Nosler Accubond over 41grns of IMR 4895 and let the meat slaying begin.

Wide Open 02-11-2014 01:40 PM

The accubond bullets are bad to the bone!
Accurate as all get out, and bone crushing!
The 160's are devastating out of my 7mmWSM
The smallest they make for my300WSM is 180s. I'd love to try sum 160's in the 300
I'll be putting together a 7mm-08 this year for my 10 year old Godchild!
Deff. Gonna put the 140gr accubonds in the pipe!

Lil Silver 02-11-2014 02:53 PM

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fishinpox 02-11-2014 04:55 PM

I'm hooked on the federal vital shok trophy copper . After seeing what they did to those think skinned animals in Africa I'm sold

Wide Open 02-11-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 664994)
I'm hooked on the federal vital shok trophy copper . After seeing what they did to those think skinned animals in Africa I'm sold

Pox, do yourself a huge favor. And this is only because of my experience I've had with federal ammunition comp.
If you've found a great round for any of your weapons including the 270wsm made by federal just go ahead and buy yourself a case or two of them now, especially for the short magnum! You'll also be getting a whole batch with the same LOT # that will 99.99% be accurate till the last round is spent.
I shot federal for over 20 yrs, and my father and uncles for over 30 and 40yrs.
Since I started with the 7mmwsm back in 04 they have discontinued 3 diffrient rounds that I found have shot well out of my firearm!
They've also done it with one of my favorite waterfowl loads!
There is nothing more dissipointing than finding out and ammunition is no longer available that you've put all your faith in for your hunting situation!
The WSM ammo is already more difficult to find than standard 308, 30-06, 270ammo.
I'm not nocking federal, I even still have about 100rnds of ammo for one of my 7 shorts,although I had a terrible exp. with a damaged barrel
Fom a box of the Barnes trippleX that has been since discontinued.
I just know if I was still buying ammo from them especially for a new gun for a young hunter like a kid or my wife that will build full confidence in over the years I would want to be able to go to my gun vault and grab the same ammo that that person built their trust on!
Just a Lil food for thought, your wife already seems a Lil timid about certain fire arms from your original post, soo making this a great exp. for her from the beginning is what counts. And congrats on your new hunting partner she sounds like she's a ringer!;)

bjhooper82 02-11-2014 09:47 PM

Federal stop making the Barnes triple shock in 7wsm??

duckman1911 02-11-2014 10:29 PM

Hornady sst stuff is good too. I have always had good luck with hornady and they have a wide selection of ammo. I have never bought any factory loaded barnes bullets but have had good results loading them for my AR. Never shot a critter with em but they make tiny little groups at 100yrds out of my carbine.

duckman1911 02-11-2014 10:38 PM

Pox have you considered something on an AR platform for your wife? The straight design of an AR really helps to reduce percieved recoil and muzzle rise. With the popularity of the AR platform you can find it chambered in a large variety of calibers.
The only drawback is that your lady will look like the badazz instead of you.lol. Nothin sexier than a woman and her gun.

fishinpox 02-11-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wide Open (Post 665005)
Pox, do yourself a huge favor. And this is only because of my experience I've had with federal ammunition comp.
If you've found a great round for any of your weapons including the 270wsm made by federal just go ahead and buy yourself a case or two of them now, especially for the short magnum! You'll also be getting a whole batch with the same LOT # that will 99.99% be accurate till the last round is spent.
I shot federal for over 20 yrs, and my father and uncles for over 30 and 40yrs.
Since I started with the 7mmwsm back in 04 they have discontinued 3 diffrient rounds that I found have shot well out of my firearm!
They've also done it with one of my favorite waterfowl loads!
There is nothing more dissipointing than finding out and ammunition is no longer available that you've put all your faith in for your hunting situation!
The WSM ammo is already more difficult to find than standard 308, 30-06, 270ammo.
I'm not nocking federal, I even still have about 100rnds of ammo for one of my 7 shorts,although I had a terrible exp. with a damaged barrel
Fom a box of the Barnes trippleX that has been since discontinued.
I just know if I was still buying ammo from them especially for a new gun for a young hunter like a kid or my wife that will build full confidence in over the years I would want to be able to go to my gun vault and grab the same ammo that that person built their trust on!
Just a Lil food for thought, your wife already seems a Lil timid about certain fire arms from your original post, soo making this a great exp. for her from the beginning is what counts. And congrats on your new hunting partner she sounds like she's a ringer!;)

i feel ya . i couldnt find my 270wsm federal trophy copper anywhere! i had a few boxes but used em to sight in a rifle then i switched scopes ect... needless to say i found 8 boxes when i went to ohio to visit my mom when she had her lung removed . they dont have a rifle season so its not as in demand. ive also been saving the brass. you are 100% right though it really sucked thinking about having to change ammo since i already had confidence in the federal.

fishinpox 02-11-2014 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 665057)
Pox have you considered something on an AR platform for your wife? The straight design of an AR really helps to reduce percieved recoil and muzzle rise. With the popularity of the AR platform you can find it chambered in a large variety of calibers.
The only drawback is that your lady will look like the badazz instead of you.lol. Nothin sexier than a woman and her gun.

yes i have , a r10 but the weight of the gun has me nervous . i dont want to have to pack hers and mine through the woods .

i think im gonna get her a tikka 243 and add abunch of aftermarket stuff to it for her so its one of a kind

Wide Open 02-11-2014 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bjhooper82 (Post 665045)
Federal stop making the Barnes triple shock in 7wsm??

Sure did!
U can buy the bullets from Barnes and reload them urself, but this is a common accurance with them.
I've gone from 160 accubond discontinued
To a 160 nosler partition discontinued
To a 160 Barnes tripple shock discontinued!
I was fortunate enough to find about 11 boxes of the accubond for me and my father for our 7shorts! It's the ammo I started with, and that shoots and kills the best out of that weapon! Browning A-bold 7mmWSM!
I've since purchased a case of Winchester 160 accubonds for my 7mmWSM X-bolt, and I can't tell the diff. They are just as accurate and just as deadly!
I also shoot the Winchester ammo out of my 300WSM and have had great results!
Hope this helps!

bjhooper82 02-11-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wide Open (Post 665065)
Sure did!
U can buy the bullets from Barnes and reload them urself, but this is a common accurance with them.
I've gone from 160 accubond discontinued
To a 160 nosler partition discontinued
To a 160 Barnes tripple shock discontinued!
I was fortunate enough to find about 11 boxes of the accubond for me and my father for our 7shorts! It's the ammo I started with, and that shoots and kills the best out of that weapon! Browning A-bold 7mmWSM!
I've since purchased a case of Winchester 160 accubonds for my 7mmWSM X-bolt, and I can't tell the diff. They are just as accurate and just as deadly!
I also shoot the Winchester ammo out of my 300WSM and have had great results!
Hope this helps!

Damn it! I've shot at least 20 deer with the Barnes triple shock and dropped every single one dead in its tracks. My x-bolt groups super tight with them. Thanks for the heads up.

duckman1911 02-12-2014 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 665061)
yes i have , a r10 but the weight of the gun has me nervous . i dont want to have to pack hers and mine through the woods .

i think im gonna get her a tikka 243 and add abunch of aftermarket stuff to it for her so its one of a kind

6.8spc is on a standard AR-15 platform. Its got plenty of juice for whitetail sized critters out to 300yards. Draw back is ammo isnt abundant. A complete upper and change the followers on a few of your AR 5.56 mags and she's rocking. 115 grn bullet at 2750 out the muzzle. I've played with a few but im sure others here have more info on the 6.8.

fishinpox 02-12-2014 11:55 PM

looked at the christensen arms ar10's today ...carbon fiber wrapped barrels ...holy ship shap! that thing was awesome . super solid but super lightweight and super expensive lol

ok so im pretty sure im gonna do the tikka .243 or the tikka 25-06 unless she wnts the a r10 ( fingers crossed she wants the a r10 so i get to play with it )

MathGeek 02-13-2014 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 665292)
looked at the christensen arms ar10's today ...carbon fiber wrapped barrels ...holy ship shap! that thing was awesome . super solid but super lightweight and super expensive lol

ok so im pretty sure im gonna do the tikka .243 or the tikka 25-06 unless she wnts the a r10 ( fingers crossed she wants the a r10 so i get to play with it )

Lighter 25-06 rifles can have a bit of recoil. .243 is a better choice for a sensitive shooter.

fishinpox 02-13-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 665294)
Lighter 25-06 rifles can have a bit of recoil. .243 is a better choice for a sensitive shooter.

25-06 seems to be a bit flatter round though

MathGeek 02-13-2014 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 665295)
25-06 seems to be a bit flatter round though

It depends. I owned one for many years and shot a lot of deer and groundhogs with it. From a 26" barrel, 85 grain bullets at 3450 fps or 100 grain bullets at 3200 or 115 grain bullets at 2900 are all plenty flat, but when the wind blows, it all gets much harder.

Reading the wind is harder than adjusting for drop. Unless shots are rushed, the higher BC bullets of the .260 Rem or .243 Win are easier to adjust for, a bit more drop, but less wind drift. The way I hunted, there was always plenty of time to laser range the distance and dial up for the drop.

I don't think I'll own another 25-06. BCs for long range start at 0.5 and I really prefer 0.6.

fishinpox 02-13-2014 06:13 PM

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Merkel 7mm08 single shot break barrel
Swarovski glass

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AubreyLaHaye458 02-13-2014 06:32 PM

Beautiful gun!


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dave 02-13-2014 06:59 PM

Very nice

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mriguy 02-13-2014 07:21 PM

Sweet gun Pox

Wide Open 02-13-2014 07:24 PM

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Merkel 7mm08 single shot break barrel
Swarovski glass

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Now ur talking brother!:)
U just scored big:grinpimp:

fishinpox 02-13-2014 07:43 PM

shes pretty pumped, not sure if she realizes how badarse of a gun it is but i know she appreciates it . no ammo to be found in baton rouge though! i ordered some from ohio should be here next week

fishinpox 02-13-2014 07:43 PM

it a gun that can stay in the family and get passed down hopefully one day it will be "gramma's gun" or even better "great gramma's gun"

Wide Open 02-13-2014 08:21 PM

Your logic is on point!

BIG1LOST 03-05-2014 04:31 PM

.240 Weatherby/vangard,.25/06 /Savage/Mossberg/?, .260/?.More oommph than .243...less kick than 7mm/08 on up.

grizzon30s 03-05-2014 07:50 PM

Sorry. Saw the title and was gonna ask for pics of your wife....thought you was offering a trade.....in most cases getting a rifle in trade for your wife wouldn't be a bad deal

SGib 03-06-2014 06:09 AM

I have a 25-06 in the mountain stock rem 700. It's a heavy gun and has zero recoil. My gf shoots it often and loves it. I also really like the 22-250


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