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MathGeek 01-16-2014 05:27 PM

Potato cannon bait launcher for fishing the beach
 
Potato cannon bait launcher for fishing the beach

We're putting together a potato cannon bait launcher for fishing the beach. Most of the ones we've seen on the internet are pneumatic rather than combustion driven. Any reason why a combustion driven won't work? They are probably too loud for Grand Isle or Pensacola, but might be ok for Holly Beach or Rutherford, no?

Anyone ever use these (pneumatic or combustion)? We can already cast 250 ft with 12' ugly stiks, so we're really looking to launch bait 400-600 feet. Launching mullet seems simple enough, but are there any ideas for launching crab without freezing it in a block of ice?

All insights and discussion appreciated.

PotLikinisAhabbit 01-16-2014 05:36 PM

Combustion might compromise the integrity of your fishing line. What are the cons associated with the pneumatic launcher that are steering you towards developing a combustion version?

MathGeek 01-16-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 659548)
Combustion might compromise the integrity of your fishing line. What are the cons associated with the pneumatic launcher that are steering you towards developing a combustion version?

I already have a combustion version. I have lots of experience with it and it is thoroughly wrung out. Been launching spuds for years. Good point about the line though.

"W" 01-16-2014 05:45 PM

So your saying your going to launch your hook with cut mullet out of a canon to go farther??

Clampy 01-16-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 659552)
So your saying your going to launch your hook with cut mullet out of a canon to go farther??


Yes. I believe he is.
Math Geek did you take a trip to Colorado lately or something ?


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PotLikinisAhabbit 01-16-2014 05:56 PM

http://youtu.be/Y3PX74gr9RM

PotLikinisAhabbit 01-16-2014 05:59 PM

If you make your own leaders you can just make one that is longer than the barrel on your launcher, let it rip, and see what happens.

Clampy 01-16-2014 05:59 PM

That's crazy.


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bgizzle 01-16-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 659552)
So your saying your going to launch your hook with cut mullet out of a canon to go farther??

Yep! Thus is exactly how I'm reading it


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Goooh 01-16-2014 06:19 PM

Nothing more salt life than this fellas.


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Clampy 01-16-2014 06:26 PM

So salt life he can chunk a mullet a half mile.


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"W" 01-16-2014 06:27 PM

Mathgeek if u trail run this on my days off, i will drive down to witness the boom

"W" 01-16-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 659555)

Launch from Cal Point to 4 corners..hook 60lb black drum..takes 3 days to get in

flounder_smacker 01-16-2014 06:50 PM

would one of those water balloon sling shots work?

Wide Open 01-16-2014 07:03 PM

3 man water balloon sling shot!
I know it sends a golf ball a long way! Lol
Just sayin

Crankbait36 01-16-2014 08:01 PM

Imagine your line getting wrapped around the tip of the rod while firing.

duckman1911 01-16-2014 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 659557)
That's crazy.


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Freakin right its crazy. MG is thinking like a redneck instead of scientist. Can we pool together some $ and get him a trophy if this sheet works?

keakar 01-16-2014 09:00 PM

maybe you are just overthinking this.

if the goal is truly fishing and not just having fun, why not just use a remote control boat to carry your bait out to where you want it and it will be in must better condition when it arrives there?

no need to seal your bait in ice and blast it off into space to get it far enough out there and as someone mentioned, if your line gets tangled or wrapped around the pole it can be a very bad situation.

there are durable remote control boats that can take rough water without getting swamped and have good range for the controls so I think its a good alternative.

duckman1911 01-16-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 659583)
maybe you are just overthinking this.

if the goal is truly fishing and not just having fun, why not just use a remote control boat to carry your bait out to where you want it and it will be in must better condition when it arrives there?

no need to seal your bait in ice and blast it off into space to get it far enough out there and as someone mentioned, if your line gets tangled or wrapped around the pole it can be a very bad situation.

there are durable remote control boats that can take rough water and have good range for the controls so I think its a good alternative.

You obviously have never met MG. He's an awesome dude just smarter than all of us combined. Over thinking stuff is his job. If he wants to do it it will be done.

MathGeek 01-16-2014 09:16 PM

Here's an article on some of our earlier work with spud cannons:

http://www.technologyreview.com/view...le-velocities/

I'm coming to believe compressed air is the way to go here.

Trying to avoid buying a bigger boat to feed my habit of catching bull reds. I like sitting on the beach while fishing.

"W" 01-16-2014 09:28 PM

Yea MathGeek is a freak of nature when it comes to engineering something, im sure what ever he comes up with could be used a weapon in Iraq

duckman1911 01-16-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 659591)
Here's an article on some of our earlier work with spud cannons:

http://www.technologyreview.com/view...le-velocities/

I'm coming to believe compressed air is the way to go here.

Trying to avoid buying a bigger boat to feed my habit of catching bull reds. I like sitting on the beach while fishing.

I hope I had something to do with that.lol

MathGeek 01-16-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 659602)
I hope I had something to do with that.lol

Yep.

keakar 01-16-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 659586)
You obviously have never met MG. He's an awesome dude just smarter than all of us combined. Over thinking stuff is his job. If he wants to do it it will be done.

well in that case the pumpkin launchers get things to go over 1 mile in the air so that could be a source for inspirational ideas lol.

they use different staged compressed gas injectors to increase the pressure and speed as it passes through the barrel and if the pumpkins stay in tact after launch then the bait should as well

Elbert Chamblee 01-16-2014 09:53 PM

I saw a guy at work launch a full coke through a 3/8'" transite wall at about 20 yards and we never did find the coke. 8' long conduit with a collar with 2 tapped 3/4" holes with quick opening quarter turn valves at 100 psi. Boss came flying to see what the H@ll was going on. Cut that sh@t up and throw in the dumpster. I wish we could have made it to the tank farm for a range test at a tank.
I hope you are using spinning reels or I see a backlash ....take a video or post when your going I might make the drive its about 64 miles to Cameron. But it would be something to see.

"W" 01-16-2014 10:00 PM

I can see it now

Mathgeet pulls up to beach with 2000lbs nitrogen tanks behind his truck and 250lb air compressor

Slides his frozen mullet in the barrel with his 100lb power pro braid... counts down 3,2,1 blast off

Projects the mullet 100's of feet into the air while screaming out line but right before he can stop it, the line reaches end of spool and his 10ft beach rod is now air born and land beyond the jettie rocks

duckman1911 01-16-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 659609)
Yep.

Hoping we can get together and hammer them again bro. Cant wait till we have some nice spring days. Got me a lil bbq pit to bring with me. An afternoon of hauling in bulls and cooking on the beach sounds like some good times. Really hope our families cross paths again buddy.

duckman1911 01-16-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 659616)
I can see it now

Mathgeet pulls up to beach with 2000lbs nitrogen tanks behind his truck and 250lb air compressor

Slides his frozen mullet in the barrel with his 100lb power pro braid... counts down 3,2,1 blast off

Projects the mullet 100's of feet into the air while screaming out line but right before he can stop it, the line reaches end of spool and his 10ft beach rod is now air born and land beyond the jettie rocks

W I thought I was gona pee my pants from laughing so hard.:rotfl:. That was freakin funny.

Andy C 01-16-2014 10:22 PM

Be careful both are illegal!!!! I know cause was selling plan for them in the back of mag. (Which was legal) but illegal to build or own!!! Not saying I don't still know where a couple are. Just letting yall know.

rocky's pal 01-16-2014 10:37 PM

Hi Mathgeek,

I love shooting spud guns, what a blast! But spotty ignition and spud just rolling out of the tube are a pain in the behind. Check out http://www.burntlatke.com/l3.html; these guys have spent some serious time working out the kinks, using metered propane, spark strips and oxygen/gas mixing in the chamber. 100% ignition every time with none of the frustration.

Next step, you should encase your chosen bait projectile in a suitable sabot material. The big question is, can you make a biodegradable sabot? I would guess something like the peanut material in packing containers that is water soluble, heck if you're really fancy, perhaps a shrimp flavor to further chum the area.

Lastly, attach a reel off of a bowfishing apparatus, mount to said spud gun, launch and attach to rod and reel.

Just remember to take loads of pictures when you get the completed project finished!

"W" 01-16-2014 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 659621)
Be careful both are illegal!!!! I know cause was selling plan for them in the back of mag. (Which was legal) but illegal to build or own!!! Not saying I don't still know where a couple are. Just letting yall know.

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youmyboyblue 01-16-2014 11:21 PM

This is amazing. If I could only have the time to produce potato launcher fishing poles.

bgizzle 01-16-2014 11:35 PM

Mg,

I once bought my godchild a push button release fishing pole. The bait was housed inside of plastic housing and was aerodynamic. Once released it hit the water opened up and dropped bait in water and I believe it doubled as a bobber.

Maybe you can use the design to your advantage in helping to create a product to suit your needs.

I'll c if I can find the product online


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bgizzle 01-16-2014 11:40 PM

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1fastmerc 01-16-2014 11:51 PM

X2

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SaltERedneck 01-17-2014 08:08 AM

Imagine the backlash on an opened face!!!! LMAO.

BassYakR 01-17-2014 08:23 AM

we kayak our baits out.... very easy to do... we do two lines at a time that way...

swamp snorkler 01-17-2014 08:24 AM

I made a potato gun that shot potatos 1,500 feet. It was pretty bad ***, we started putting trace rounds in them, we would put a sweet potato with a glow stick on the back side, aquanet hair spray....... thing would glow at night when you hit the trigger. Good times.

kibb 01-17-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 659666)
I made a potato gun that shot potatos 1,500 feet. It was pretty bad ***, we started putting trace rounds in them, we would put a sweet potato with a glow stick on the back side, aquanet hair spray....... thing would glow at night when you hit the trigger. Good times.


Try making a wad with newspaper or paper bags and put a golf ball in it.

Top Dawg 01-17-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 659583)
maybe you are just overthinking this.

if the goal is truly fishing and not just having fun, why not just use a remote control boat to carry your bait out to where you want it and it will be in must better condition when it arrives there?

no need to seal your bait in ice and blast it off into space to get it far enough out there and as someone mentioned, if your line gets tangled or wrapped around the pole it can be a very bad situation.

there are durable remote control boats that can take rough water without getting swamped and have good range for the controls so I think its a good alternative.

Gonna have to hire a spider monkey to ride the boat and drop your bait where u want it.

swamp snorkler 01-17-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kibb (Post 659677)
Try making a wad with newspaper or paper bags and put a golf ball in it.


Long story short, I needed a waterer for my chickens, my potato gun is now a waterer, Thats harcore redneck right there.

cajunkid 01-17-2014 10:06 AM

I saw a video of the this man using a remote control toy boat that has a grasp hook. He was fishing near a freshwater dam. He would attach his line to the grasp, then pilot the toy boat from the bank, and release the line when then boat was right at the foot of the dam. Channel catfish were right at the base of the dam. The remote control boat was about three feet long.

MathGeek 01-17-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cajunkid (Post 659702)
I saw a video of the this man using a remote control toy boat that has a grasp hook. He was fishing near a freshwater dam. He would attach his line to the grasp, then pilot the toy boat from the bank, and release the line when then boat was right at the foot of the dam. Channel catfish were right at the base of the dam. The remote control boat was about three feet long.

That's a sweet set-up, but I'm not sure I want to depend on a toy boat to bring baits out hundreds of yards into the Gulf of Mexico. I think the spud gun might work well a lot more days of the year, and also work in places with strong currents that would challenge a remote control boat's abilities.

cajunkid 01-17-2014 10:15 AM

Yeah, the curling waves of a beach might sink the little boat. But a flying kite with a grasp hook.........hmmmmmm.

Duck Butter 01-17-2014 10:32 AM

You need to train a dog for this, not a rock dog or ribbon dog but a crab dog or mullet dog. Instead of retrieving, train him to take the bait out and drop it using hand signals. Profit:grinpimp:

kibb 01-17-2014 11:13 AM

Potato cannon bait launcher for fishing the beach
 
Just use a dual purpose rig! :lol:

http://youtu.be/AGqNmJWTxYg

I make oil 01-17-2014 11:54 AM

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I think this is the best idea so far.

bmac 01-17-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunkid (Post 659706)
Yeah, the curling waves of a beach might sink the little boat. But a flying kite with a grasp hook.........hmmmmmm.

It looks like Australia already has an answer.

http://www.hiflykites.co.za/free-kit...ishing-manual/

http://www.hiflykites.co.za/free-kit...ishing-rig.GIF

keakar 01-17-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 659704)
That's a sweet set-up, but I'm not sure I want to depend on a toy boat to bring baits out hundreds of yards into the Gulf of Mexico. I think the spud gun might work well a lot more days of the year, and also work in places with strong currents that would challenge a remote control boat's abilities.

a boat like this is the kind of boat I had in mind MG not those little toys: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Super...623614415.html

as you can see it is completely sealed and water proof so it can go through or under the ways without a problem as long as its not white caps that would make steering it and issue

catch.and.fillet 01-17-2014 12:56 PM

I suggest a quad copter rigged with a camera and remote release. This one's would be pretty sweet for sight fishing. Then hack it to remotely release your line.


http://youtu.be/fSoTkooY084



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