Boat Suggestions Needed
 

I know everyone will have an opinion, so I'm asking for some!!

I'm looking at buying a 22'-24' boat. I want something that I can fit my kids and wife in for a little trip or something for us to pull the kids in a tube with. This boat needs to be big enough so I can fish salt and small enough so I can fish fresh water with the family. Fresh water fishing would consist of the bigger lakes and rivers. I'm not looking to put this boat in the smaller bayous, etc. As I'm currently set up, I fish mostly fresh water because I don't have a bay boat and don't want to subject my freshwater boat to the salt water environment.

I'm not opposed to buying a new boat, but will more then likely stay on the used market to not take that big of a hit. What length and name brand would you experts suggest?? I have 4 kids that range from ages 4-10.

Thanks.

Josh

I have a triton and would trade it. Fished 5 grown men, to 2 adults and 3 kids in the 5-10 range. The Lowrance side scan is great for structure mapping too, especially if you like freshwater fishing.

That's just me though, the thread below is full of member boats and specs.

I bought my 210 Frontier to fish Toledo and Big Lake and it works great for both.

If you buy a 21ft boat get a frontier. It Has jump seats in back. Very dry ride and wide. Handles the chop like a boss.:cool: I have the 2104 frontier. With 175 suzuki. And lowrance hds 7 structure scan. If you want to take a ride let me know.

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Love my 2104 frontier. Rides great and silky smooth. I don't know if they make a bigger 21' boat. It fishes great.


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with 4 kids I would get a 24fter no question. Right now you can fit them all fishing and riding in a 22, but in 5 years you will either be buying a different boat or not everybody is gonna fit. I have fished 6 adults out of my Triton, with three of them being women.

And didn't catch anything! :rotfl::p;)

not true...I caught a navioncs chip and a couple of fish

My Bad! I knew I gave you the chip but didn't remember giving you any fish.

With an 8ft 3 beam from back to front. Iv fish 4 adults with no problem. 5 wouldnt be a probem in that boat. The frontier is the wides 21 1\2ft boat out there as far as I know.

But you will find a 24ft boat before you come across a 2104 frontier

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I would be sure to get a boat that is 100% composite.

The frontier has about a foot long wooden brace in the anchor storage. That's a deal breaker for some people. I find it hilarious.


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It was not a deal breaker for me because I was never in the market for a frontier. I find it hilarious that the big time frontier dealer didnt even know about it and was selling it as an all composite boat. Also theres more wood than just the anchor locker.

"I wanted to take a minute to help with any concerns you may have about our Frontier line of boats. It is true that we use a marine-grade, pressure-treated boat panel in SOME of our Frontier lines. These models are the Frontier 210, 190, and the rolled-gunwale Open Series. The material we use is the AquaPly PLUS boat panel from Affiliated Resources, and has a lifetime no-rot guarantee. However, our most popular Frontier models, the 2104 and the 180, are structurally all-composite. These models have a full-liner cap interior similar to our BlackJack 224, and have composite, foam-cored hulls, decks, and stringers. "



Dalton Kenner
Sales/Marketing Coordinator
K2 Marine, Inc.




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Key word "structurally"

When I was looking at the Frontier my local dealer told me about the anchor locker being wood. But he also stated that they use some wood in strongbacks, which is used in bracing the boat.

So yeah. Hull is 100% composite and they brace a couple things with wood.
Don't buy a frontier. They trash.
But a alumacraft and never use a wooden paddle.


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Hull is NOT 100% composite

In the last 3 mins I researched Triton and Blue wave and both have wooden braces. I like both of those boats. So what boats don't use wood in strategic places ??


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Link?

BLUE WAVE BOATS®


Blue Wave Boats are warranted to be free from defects in material and workmanship under normal operating conditions for a period of one year. Blue Wave Boats warrants to you that it will repair or replace defects (at the sole discretion of Parks Mfg.) in materials or workmanship that occur within the applicable warranty periods, subject to the “What This Warranty Does Not Cover” section below.

The Warranty Period for structural parts, including the hull, stringers and transom runs for the duration of the original first purchaser’s period of ownership. The wood products used in construction are covered by a Limited Lifetime warranty against rot and dela
mination by the supplier. All composite construction is covered by a limited lifetime warranty against rot and delamination by Blue Wave Boats and/or the supplier. The transferred Warranty Period to a second purchaser runs ten (10) years from the original delivery date, regardless of when the warranty is transferred. To transfer a warranty, a notorized Bill of Sale must be submitted to Blue Wave Boats within (10) ten days of the sale. The structural integrity of each hull further carries a limited ten (10) year warranty.

The foregoing warranty does not cover the following items under this limited warranty or any damage resulting from:


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Didn't mean to hit a nerve, just stating what my Blackjack dealer said about the Frontier boats. They look fine and hopefully the wood used will not cause a problem. But I can guarantee you the Triton and the Bluewave does not have any wood.

Only the bluewave rolled edge (lower line) boats use wood. Still waiting on triton

should check out a haynie. really good riding boat

Speck nation you good you didn't hit a nerve. I was aware of wooden braces. Doesn't really matter to me at all. You are correct about tritons. I miss read something. So the pure bay doesn't have wood either but all other blue waves are trash. This is ford vs Chevy and my dad can beat up your dad. I have nothing against any other boat and could care less it's preference.

Sorry for the hijack josh.
Good luck finding a boat.


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My original comment was not made with any certain boat company in mind. Sorry you felt the need to defend your frontier.

No problem with the hijack. All info needs to be considered when buying a boat, so it's all good!

At what number would you guys consider TOO MANY hrs on a used boat motor? 100,200,300, etc. A lot of these guys selling boats right now are considering the motor in great shape if it has less than 100 hrs. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the help.

the good thing about buying recent motors is you can hook it up to a computer and see how its been run (how many minutes at what rpm) . That being said I would look for something under 300 hrs.

HYDRASPORTS CUSTOMS http: /www.hydrasports.com/ HAVE NO WOOD AND ARE BATTLE WAGGONS

100 hrs a year or so don't bother me, it's more about how it was maintained. I'd buy a 500 hr motor hanging on a boat that was obviously well maintained over a 5 year old unit with very very low hours.

These things are made to run for a long time, boaters are the ones that give them their short life by not knowing what the hell to do with it when they get it. You can't just throw alcohol laden gas in a marine motor, run it a few times a year in salt water, then park it for 7 months and expect it to give you a beautiful life.

I focus more on the seller than I do the hours and other stuff. Him and the condition of the boat let me know if I'm buying within a few minutes. Heck, just looking at the listing tells me if his 50 hour motor is worth me going to see, or if his 600 hour is worth it.

Thanks.

I agree with Goooh. It's not about the hours to me either its about the way the boat was maintained. I wash mine after every salt water use and wax it 2 or 3 times a year. I make sure all maint is done regularly on the engine, use only non-ethanol gas and keep the boat covered when not in use. If I was to sell my boat I think I could get nearly what I paid for it and it would be worth it even though it has lots of hours on the motor.

I have a guy in my neighborhood who bought a nice Nautic Star 2200 and I don't think I've seen it leave the yard 2 times in the last 3 years. He leaves it parked on the side of his house and never covers it. The upholstery is sun damaged and the fiberglass is chalky and nasty looking. I wouldn't touch that boat with a 10 foot pole even though I'm sure the engine has low hours. He's left some Zebco fishing poles in the console rod holders for going on a year now. Some people have more money than sense.

Hey everyone. Just wanted to straighten out some of the apparent confusion about the 2104. My explanation of the marine panel that we use has already been re-posted, so I'm not going to get into all of that again (Thanks for the quote, Clampy). Despite what some earlier comments claim, we DO NOT use that marine panel for any type of bracing or structural support. The hull IS 100% composite, as are the stringers, transom, deck, console, and hatch lids. Hope this helps.

Dalton Kenner
Sales/Marketing Coordinator
K2 Marine, Inc.

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I'm still unsure

Yeah, link on the triton with wood?

I know the frontier has a few small pieces.

Already stated my mix up. Triton has no wood. Doesn't really matter tho. All good boats.


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