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meaux fishing 08-05-2013 10:31 PM

Triple tail limit coming
 
You can send in public comments, won't do any good though. http://fishgame.com/news/?p=20819

BROWN FIN 08-05-2013 10:37 PM

The great minds have already been made up.


BROWN FIN

Top Dawg 08-05-2013 10:39 PM

18" minimum? Unbelieveable. Hope y'all ate all the triple tail y'all wanted cuz it's about to be a delicasy lol

Montauk17 08-05-2013 10:40 PM

Never caught or ate one before,can't say it will affect me. I doubt it taste as good as fresh sacalait or flounder.

PaulMyers 08-05-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 613835)
18" minimum? Unbelieveable. Hope y'all ate all the triple tail y'all wanted cuz it's about to be a delicasy lol

That's what I was thinking!

"W" 08-05-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 613835)
18" minimum? Unbelieveable. Hope y'all ate all the triple tail y'all wanted cuz it's about to be a delicasy lol

Wonder how Will Drost came up with the 18inch min??

I bet he used the same data that was used for our 15 trout limit



























Freaken NONE

Top Dawg 08-05-2013 10:50 PM

Btw the CCA is pushing this.

jpeff31787 08-06-2013 07:47 AM

that's retarded... I would LOVE to see their reasoning... It sure isn't because anglers are catching them all.

Spunt Drag 08-06-2013 08:46 AM

Who needs science when you got money!

jpeff31787 08-06-2013 08:48 AM

I hate to think this but we all know that this shows what is coming in the future

Top Dawg 08-06-2013 08:49 AM

Cca may have seen their last dollar from me

Spunt Drag 08-06-2013 08:53 AM

CCA can eat a ****!

Spunt Drag 08-06-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 613929)
Cca may have seen their last dollar from me

CCA=the DU of the GOM

"W" 08-06-2013 08:57 AM

If CCA is pushing this and supporting it...

It has seen its last $1 from me also

meaux fishing 08-06-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 613938)
If CCA is pushing this and supporting it...

It has seen its last $1 from me also

CCA is 100% behind it...look at their facebook page. I posted a comment on it earlier and they replied

Top Dawg 08-06-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 613943)
CCA is 100% behind it...look at their facebook page. I posted a comment on it earlier and they replied

For those of us that don't have a facebook, can you screen shot and post up please?

meaux fishing 08-06-2013 09:15 AM

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here you go

Top Dawg 08-06-2013 09:18 AM

I wonder if its the same scientist they met with for th trout limit

meaux fishing 08-06-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 613952)
I wonder if its the same scientist they met with for th trout limit

lol... Im gonna email my uncle and see what the science says

Spunt Drag 08-06-2013 09:48 AM

He's throwing irrelevant numbers out that do not answer the question you asked. Sexual maturity does not matter, the question was, is there any biological evidence to support a size and/or creel limit? And better yet, is there any evidence of overharvesting by anglers to support a limit. Which of course the answer is no. Just like a triflin' ***politician, throws numbers to evade a question. I'm mad now.

Spunt Drag 08-06-2013 09:50 AM

They're for sure not gettin another dollar from me.

Crawl79 08-06-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 613836)
Never caught or ate one before,can't say it will affect me. I doubt it taste as good as fresh sacalait or flounder.

You say it won't effect you but it might. Today it's triple tail, tomorrow it's Texas fish limits in all of Louisiana. Not everything in Texas is bigger and better than LA. Just using Texas as an example no harm meant, I just know their limits are nothing like our liberal limits.

I am all for conversation. I can't even catch a limit of trout in Big Lake with a 15 trout limit although I have many times elsewhere. But even not being a great trout fisherman in BL I know that the 15 trout limit there is BS.

"W" 08-06-2013 09:55 AM

Hey they said it best "its smart conservation " = no research or facts , just money




Btw have you noticed the more CCA pushes this non fact issues the smaller the STAR prizes become???


They keep pissing off charter captains and people who know 100% more about our waters than they do...word will keep getting out until we get a Delta Waterfowl of Water started

meaux fishing 08-06-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 613974)
Hey they said it best "its smart conservation " = no research or facts , just money




Btw have you noticed the more CCA pushes this non fact issues the smaller the STAR prizes become???


They keep pissing off charter captains and people who know 100% more about our waters than they do...word will keep getting out until we get a Delta Waterfowl of Water started

yep... I'm done with them

noodle creek 08-06-2013 10:08 AM

Go figure, no more CCA for me

swamp snorkler 08-06-2013 10:08 AM

I've never caught a triple tail.

"W" 08-06-2013 10:08 AM

So i guess we need a sheephead limit since we have a lot more Texans fishing our waters

Spunt Drag 08-06-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 613963)
He's throwing irrelevant numbers out that do not answer the question you asked. Sexual maturity does not matter, the question was, is there any biological evidence to support a size and/or creel limit? And better yet, is there any evidence of overharvesting by anglers to support a limit. Which of course the answer is no. Just like a triflin' *** politician, throws numbers to evade a question. I'm mad now.

Better?

"W" 08-06-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 613984)
I've never caught a triple tail.

They almost extinct

Top Dawg 08-06-2013 10:26 AM

Need to make a big push against CCA on this. After all, they are a non profit org LOL

"W" 08-06-2013 10:31 AM

I have always supported CCA because they are all we have for conservation issues but seeing the corruption and politics who make up laws. It really makes me upset and not want to support them.

After the 15 trout limit getting pushed by non fisherman and few people with money, it has left that hangover beer taste in my mouth!!


I wish someone would start a new organization for Louisiana and for anglers, ( not money office fisherman)

bmac 08-06-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 613963)
He's throwing irrelevant numbers out that do not answer the question you asked. Sexual maturity does not matter, the question was, is there any biological evidence to support a size and/or creel limit? And better yet, is there any evidence of overharvesting by anglers to support a limit. Which of course the answer is no. Just like a triflin' ***politician, throws numbers to evade a question. I'm mad now.

I'm not a biologist, didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, and only fish a half dozen times a year. However I assume the sexual maturity statement means that at 18", 50% of those fish have reproduced, so it is ok from a conservation point of view to harvest them.

I guess their argument is that it is good conservation practice to establish limits that allow 50% of the fish to reproduce before they are allowed to be taken.

As to the limit of number of fish per day, 5, 10, 50, your guess is as good as mine as to how they came up with that number.

Spunt Drag 08-06-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 614000)
I'm not a biologist, didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, and only fish a half dozen times a year. However I assume the sexual maturity statement means that at 18", 50% of those fish have reproduced, so it is ok from a conservation point of view to harvest them.

I guess their argument is that it is good conservation practice to establish limits that allow 50% of the fish to reproduce before they are allowed to be taken.

As to the limit of number of fish per day, 5, 10, 50, your guess is as good as mine as to how they came up with that number.

The question I want them to answer "Is there any biological evidence that tripletail populations have been impacted by Louisiana anglers enough to warrant a limit?". The rest is just a sideshow.

meaux fishing 08-06-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 614011)
The question I want them to answer "Is there any biological evidence that tripletail populations have been impacted by Louisiana anglers enough to warrant a limit?". The rest is just a sideshow.

I emailed my uncle who is a biologist with WLF he referred me to the guy who's email address is posted for comments. I just sent him a message, I will post what his reply is if I get one.

inchspinner 08-06-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 613986)
Better?

Lol no harm bro! Lol

inchspinner 08-06-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 613984)
I've never caught a triple tail.

X2 ive seen one in ship channel under a 2Ltr bottle and woulnt budge...

AceArcher 08-06-2013 11:21 AM

Has anyone called the guy to discuss what the relevant studies are that he is talking about?

"W" 08-06-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AceArcher (Post 614025)
Has anyone called the guy to discuss what the relevant studies are that he is talking about?

It will amount to about this much evidence

AceArcher 08-06-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 614030)
It will amount to about this much evidence

Lol.

Yeah you might be right, But seems to me it's worth calling the guy up to hear his side of it. And if it is just so much B.S. letting all of us know :)

Finfeatherfur 08-06-2013 11:41 AM

I am sooooooo sick and tired of the BS in our lives nowadays! I mean less face it - we are in bad times. We have to fight legal battles over fishing issues (snapper, water access, season dates, etc.) and no end is in sight. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves puking on the soil they fought far. We have wasteful spending on BS at ever turn, plus the leaders of these governmental agencies have lost all concept of "common sense".

Triple tail are what I consider an "incedental fish". I mean it's not like you can go out and target them on a regular basis. They are here on day and gone the next. Sure, I have had times where we found an acre of grass offshore which held hundreds, but I have seen it twice and I am 45. And a 18" minimum size limit..........really! Like the Mexican fisherman named "Pedro" in his Panga will release the same 17.5" TT he catches in Mexican waters after I release it in the GOM for being a half inch too short.

I am officially going on record here as the State of LA did with the NOAA snapper issue - "I am non-compliant"! Enough said! I catch a triple tail that I want to consume as a family as reward to a trip on the water, well then they will have to catch me! CCA needs to understand that the "John Q Public" is getting tired of this BS. I stopped feeding them money when the private access issue was going. Again, it goes down to people with big bucks having the right phone numbers to call when they want something on their agenda.

"W" 08-06-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 614039)
I am sooooooo sick and tired of the BS in our lives nowadays! I mean less face it - we are in bad times. We have to fight legal battles over fishing issues (snapper, water access, season dates, etc.) and no end is in sight. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves puking on the soil they fought far. We have wasteful spending on BS at ever turn, plus the leaders of these governmental agencies have lost all concept of "common sense".

Triple tail are what I consider an "incedental fish". I mean it's not like you can go out and target them on a regular basis. They are here on day and gone the next. Sure, I have had times where we found an acre of grass offshore which held hundreds, but I have seen it twice and I am 45. And a 18" minimum size limit..........really! Like the Mexican fisherman named "Pedro" in his Panga will release the same 17.5" TT he catches in Mexican waters after I release it in the GOM for being a half inch too short.

I am officially going on record here as the State of LA did with the NOAA snapper issue - "I am non-compliant"! Enough said! I catch a triple tail that I want to consume as a family as reward to a trip on the water, well then they will have to catch me! CCA needs to understand that the "John Q Public" is getting tired of this BS. I stopped feeding them money when the private access issue was going. Again, it goes down to people with big bucks having the right phone numbers to call when they want something on their agenda.


^^^^^ Right on Brother ^^^^^^^^


Vote for Pedro

marshrunner757 08-06-2013 11:59 AM

Well said!

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"W" 08-06-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 614039)
I am sooooooo sick and tired of the BS in our lives nowadays! I mean less face it - we are in bad times. We have to fight legal battles over fishing issues (snapper, water access, season dates, etc.) and no end is in sight. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves puking on the soil they fought far. We have wasteful spending on BS at ever turn, plus the leaders of these governmental agencies have lost all concept of "common sense".

Triple tail are what I consider an "incedental fish". I mean it's not like you can go out and target them on a regular basis. They are here on day and gone the next. Sure, I have had times where we found an acre of grass offshore which held hundreds, but I have seen it twice and I am 45. And a 18" minimum size limit..........really! Like the Mexican fisherman named "Pedro" in his Panga will release the same 17.5" TT he catches in Mexican waters after I release it in the GOM for being a half inch too short.

I am officially going on record here as the State of LA did with the NOAA snapper issue - "I am non-compliant"! Enough said! I catch a triple tail that I want to consume as a family as reward to a trip on the water, well then they will have to catch me! CCA needs to understand that the "John Q Public" is getting tired of this BS. I stopped feeding them money when the private access issue was going. Again, it goes down to people with big bucks having the right phone numbers to call when they want something on their agenda.


And to add to your statement same goes with that stupid 2 over 25,26,inch trout..dont even know what it is but that was the stupidest law I ever heard added to a limit!!

Who the freak is going to measure a trout after its 12 inchs long??? Who cares if you keep 15 29inch trout??

CCA and others place a 15 trout limit on a estuary that can support a 30per person limit


But again right phone #s and money on pockets crosses out - research, science and biologist

slickfish 08-06-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 613985)
So i guess we need a sheephead limit since we have a lot more Texans fishing our waters

No need.. We just want all your speckled trout an triple tail.

specktator 08-06-2013 12:16 PM

An 18" triple tail is a big triple tail! Can't believe this BS.

BROWN FIN 08-06-2013 12:17 PM

Can't believe it took this long for people to notice the corruption in the CCA. That's been going on for years.


BROWN FIN

noodle creek 08-06-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 614039)
I am sooooooo sick and tired of the BS in our lives nowadays! I mean less face it - we are in bad times. We have to fight legal battles over fishing issues (snapper, water access, season dates, etc.) and no end is in sight. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves puking on the soil they fought far. We have wasteful spending on BS at ever turn, plus the leaders of these governmental agencies have lost all concept of "common sense".

Triple tail are what I consider an "incedental fish". I mean it's not like you can go out and target them on a regular basis. They are here on day and gone the next. Sure, I have had times where we found an acre of grass offshore which held hundreds, but I have seen it twice and I am 45. And a 18" minimum size limit..........really! Like the Mexican fisherman named "Pedro" in his Panga will release the same 17.5" TT he catches in Mexican waters after I release it in the GOM for being a half inch too short.

I am officially going on record here as the State of LA did with the NOAA snapper issue - "I am non-compliant"! Enough said! I catcha triple tail that I want to consume as a family as reward to a trip on the water, well then they will have to catch me! CCA needs to understand that the "John Q Public" is getting tired of this BS. I stopped feeding them money when the private access issue was going. Again, it goes down to people with big bucks having the right phone numbers to call when they want something on their agenda.

Right on right on

Crawl79 08-06-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 614039)
I am sooooooo sick and tired of the BS in our lives nowadays! I mean less face it - we are in bad times. We have to fight legal battles over fishing issues (snapper, water access, season dates, etc.) and no end is in sight. Our forefathers are rolling in their graves puking on the soil they fought far. We have wasteful spending on BS at ever turn, plus the leaders of these governmental agencies have lost all concept of "common sense".

Triple tail are what I consider an "incedental fish". I mean it's not like you can go out and target them on a regular basis. They are here on day and gone the next. Sure, I have had times where we found an acre of grass offshore which held hundreds, but I have seen it twice and I am 45. And a 18" minimum size limit..........really! Like the Mexican fisherman named "Pedro" in his Panga will release the same 17.5" TT he catches in Mexican waters after I release it in the GOM for being a half inch too short.

I am officially going on record here as the State of LA did with the NOAA snapper issue - "I am non-compliant"! Enough said! I catch a triple tail that I want to consume as a family as reward to a trip on the water, well then they will have to catch me! CCA needs to understand that the "John Q Public" is getting tired of this BS. I stopped feeding them money when the private access issue was going. Again, it goes down to people with big bucks having the right phone numbers to call when they want something on their agenda.

That's what I am talking about! I barely have enough money with gas prices these days. Do you really think I am going to throw back a 17.5" TT? Gonna put that filet knife to work! And BTW I am not by any means an "Outlaw".

Top Dawg 08-06-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROWN FIN (Post 614060)
Can't believe it took this long for people to notice the corruption in the CCA. That's been going on for years.


BROWN FIN

They've seen their last dollar from me and I will tell everyone I know they are against fishermen.

inchspinner 08-06-2013 12:29 PM

Would it take getting caught with over the limit or undersized tt and getting a ticket and plead not guilty and have a big blown out trial with no limit and no size supporters there to make a big hurrah!!!


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