laws / rules for fishing ship channel near plants
 

Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as any laws/rules on distance that must be kept from shoreline and docks on plants properties in the ship channel. I spoke with the coast guard and they sent me a map of the security zones at the two LNG plants and PPG. They are charged with these areas. Most of the west bank is owned by one or another of the local plants and I am getting conflicting reports how far from their property/shore you can fish. Any information will be appreciated.

I've always understood it to be stay off the banks, do not go near active docks, do not tie up to any dock and stay out of security zones. Should be god to go. They may not want you fishing their their docks but if you dont tie up, I don't think there is much they can do legally.

LNG is 500' which sucks

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Most wont say much unless their dock is active. I do beleive they have a legal right and duty to enforce security. Them plants with docks have to pay for their dock space in the water giving them the right to that water.

ppg and lng plants
 

I dont unerstand it either... coast guard got me last friday and said i had to get back 300 feet and there was no boats or anything by us. howcanthey own part of the water way? I would like info on this as well

Big money = Big power

LNG?

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The coast guard told me last yr that anything in between I think it was the second bouy in the west side of the PPG turnaround was off limits.


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i only have trouble when im at the ppg plant... i wasnt in the boat slips or anything like that i was way on the side

Do these plants have any signs up so that someone not familiar with the area will know to stay a certain distance?

No sir, they do not.

What dock were you near?

The ppg plant by prien lake

That is 1 of the 3 security zones in our area.

Like a few years ago we would go night fishing there with no problems almost every weekend but I guess something happened

Sorry just crossed the 210 bridge and its the 3rd bouy.


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You have to understand that LNG is kinda sorta flammable and some like to do harm to the good ol US of A. It is what it is, and if staying back 300 ft is what they want me to do, then I will. Got ran out of whatever that canal is right as you go left outta Calc Pt and then hang another left down there (Intracoastal maybe?). Was trying to catch bait and got told to go elsewhere. I gave him a piece of my mind as I was turned away from him:rotfl:



thanks a lot bin Laden

I would say it is a security thing since the terrorism stuff started. Ppg has some very nasty and explosive chemicals leaving those docks. They have you on camera way before you even think about getting close.

Heres what I found
 

You are correct Paul. I called the coast guard and the CPSO marine division today. I have attached the info from the coast guard on the 3 security zones. Both they and the sheriff's dept. said that there is no law on the books in regards to maintaining a specific distance from docks or shoreline. They advise to stay a safe distance away from any dock that has a vessel moored to it or that has people working on it. The deputy said to remember that "if plant security personel ask you to back away a little that they are just doing their job so be courteous".

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Great info, thanks this will be helpful during our next visit to the Calcasieu River.

I mainly fish in Big Lake and not along the ship channel.

If you are:

1) fishing along the bank and a LNG ship comes up the channel......do you have to leave????

2) If you are headed down the channel [coming from the north] and a LNG ship is down near the washout area, when you get close [a mile away] do you have to turn around????

3) If a LNG ship is coming, can you go back in a canal or bayou to get out of the ship channel??? If so, how far off the channel must you get to be "OK?

4) If you are say, fishing the washout area.....how far must you be from the ship channel to be "OK" when a LNG ship passes???

The LNG ships are escorted by the CC with their gun boats. When the LNG ships are in transit a 1 mile safety zone is required.

I've never been chased away from the ship channel for any vessel coming through (LNG or otherwise) I will tell you that those suckers come through there hauling it sometimes and in those cases it is advisable to use caution because the wave might swamp you.

Don't know if the 1 mile security zone is inforced but it is the law.

so if theres no specific distance to stay away fro the bank and coast guard tells u to move u have to move even tho u not in the way of anything?? im just confused

I am not familiar with the phone app. If you look at it on a computer, you will see (2) PDF's attached. Thats the only way I could attach them, maybe one of the moderators can display them differently.

Paul.....that is why I posted the questions.....So others [and me] can learn what to do when a LNG ship comes.

Who has been fishing along the ship channel when a LNG ship comes by? Did the Coast Guard make you leave?

Hell it's been so long since an LNG ship has come in nobody knows. In the past we just rode right by them

what does an LNG ship look like?

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