Sabine refuge changes for 2013-1014
 

As they say in Ebonics, "We be ****ed."

So noaccess to noth west impound by spillway?For fishn

Basically if the birds are here this year we gonna slaughter them. Gonna have the pilgrimage of people from the back huntin the front, Runnin the marsh is gonna get shut down big time.. Anything else? Lol

I'm going to be able to charge people to tow them back when they run the marsh and the tide goes out during the hunt lol

Remember how awesome it used to be before the hurricanes?? Full of ducks and bass! Now the fishin is okay (reds) but the huntin is down right pathetic! That place is shot.

There will still be no enforcement in the back so the original marsh running, law breaking hands will still be using that route more than likely. We can't really be mad cause we knew it would get shut down back der with all the complaints. We just have to start over like everyone else.

If they would've spunt the $$$ on digging out central canal instead of hiring that company to clean the debris (which they didn't do), then it would be getting back to good.


Yes but after a good north wind I don't think I'll be able to run these "trails" they're claiming to make.

Unless they gate it off

Won't happen

Edit. Unless somebody gates it up

RULES ??
 

You know things will always be the same. Some people obey and some dont. You will be able to fish from the Vinton Drain Ditch to the back of Sabine like always. It was a blessing they let us utilize that way to hunt the back since Central Canal was plugged. All the marsh running stopped that now. Some got caught some didnt. Just like speeding on the highway, some get caught some dont. So if you caught back there now running into the back during duck season, well if you get caught now it will be alot worst than a ticket. They will utilize a camera system alot like redlight cameras very easy as they have in the past. Lose your boat and hunting rights, its your to give if you want to take the chance. They will always be a few to force changes on the majority.
I think how good it could be if we would just follow the rules out there so they could trust us do follow the rules. The people that run Sabine can do anything they want out there. Its up to them on how that place is open to the public or restricted to the public. Funny thing the restricted pubic is only the ones that follows the rules. The guys that always break the rules are the ones that limit us all.

If they started enforcing the laws a lot of people will probably quit going. Since Rita it has been a free for all.

This is not true.... This is only a suggested plan and has not been approved. And some of what is posted is entirely inaccurate.

I hope it don't happen. Sounds like you're in the know, can you fill us in?

I was told by the big cheese at Sabine he has only 2-3 agents to work Sabine and Cameron Prairie. Their job is almost impossible given the size of both. I also agree that the hunting up front decreased tremendously in 04 and hasn't and won't come back with the current management plan.

Well, what is not accurate?
 

My source is from the refuge, whats yours?

Sabine is a 60/40 refuge 60 percent has to be designated hunting area 40 for refuge if they close certain areas they have to open new areas.... Look for the public meeting and everyone attend and argue

What's wrong with Sabine is the jackasses that watch a episode of duck dynasty and go buy 50 bucks worth of decoys and set up 50 yards infront you. I couldn't careless about people running in the marsh and personally I think you should be able to run the marsh, it's the only thing that lets you get away from the potlickers. I have been hunting sabine since '01 never had much traffic in the back now all these new hunters come back there and cause problems for everybody. Hard to kill ducks when there's 15 groups hunting a 10 acre pond.

That's a load of BS. If u ain't lazy u can get away from the pot lickers. The problem with the lazy *** law breakers running the marsh is that one day they gonna run over the folks that follow the law and are paddling in pirogues.

How man people have actually been ran over in a pirogue? Either way they should allow you to run in the marsh and that would eliminate the problem all together.

Problems?
 

I been huntin Sabine since 1968, its been through lots of changes. We used to be able to run the marsh. If its not in the rules then we should not. And yes i have seen with my own eyes guys gettin swamped by illegal marsh runnin, gettin there spot taken away by cheaters not willin to put in the work. I like things to be more open to get futher apart out there, but with the yahoos not following the rules things will stay tight. The money shortage in goverment makes it worse out there with keeping up with things. If people would get out there and help and show the management of Sabine that we can help, want to help and police ourselves we can get more in the long run and make room for all.

I'm all for helping out, I just can not stand to have my spread out and some noob come set up right next to me.

Well you don't think if they make it legal to run the marsh the noobs won't run out there and set up close to you? The only thing marsh running benefits is the outlaws. If they legalized it then everyone would be in an even level. And now your back to your original problem.

You don't think it would help to spread people out?

I like the ones in the paddle only section who paddle in 50 yards and they done. Then it's a giant Gang bang up in the front, they come back to the landing b**** because they didn't kill birds.

Lol!

We smashed the ducks in that section, would come back to the landing, next day those pilgrims would get closer and closer until you end up having this situation.
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Pirogues on refuge refuge require one 360 all around white light if they'd have those they wouldn't get hit

Like stated earlier. If you are willing to put in the work and get away from the people it is very easy to kill ducks out there. The rules are put in place with safety in mind. When it gets to a point that the outlawing is out of control they will just shut the whole thing down and no one will be hunting it. Problem is people feel entitled to do whatever they please and not obey the law and its those that are going to ruin it for everyone.

This crap been going on all over the duck hunting world LONG before Duck Dynasty was ever a thought:help:

My math says 60% of 125,000 acres is 75,000 acres and there is no way the units open for hunting encompass 75,000. If they had the man power, it would be easy to separate everyone using a draw system every morning but they would need someone at the launch to conduct it.

[QUOTE=Top Dawg;585743]Like stated earlier. If you are willing to put in the work and get away from the people it is very easy to kill ducks out there. The rules are put in place with safety in mind. When it gets to a point that the outlawing is out of control they will just shut the whole thing down and no one will be hunting it. Problem is people feel entitled to do whatever they please and not obey the law and its those that are going to ruin it for everyone.[/

You're right I'm wrong. Ill go sit in the corner and cry about it now.

BS that is only in canals where boats can legally run. If people like u followed the law no one would get run over in the marsh

Actually it's not

So know I don't follow the law??? *** do I care I got the best spot in jb to hunt why do I give a flying **** bout that refuge but way to assume ****

But hey feesherman blow me!!!

pahahaha shiiiiooootss getting real up in here. get em!

Tired of all these clowns wanna talk **** bout me line up and get dropped

Yup it's real. Just like its real dat he runs thru dat trashy a$$ refuge.

No one would talk trash if u didn't leave a trail of it

See you soon

the refuge is serious business.

My right hand some serious stuff put false accusations out about me and I promise u aint bad enough!

What kinda boat do I run since u seen me running in marsh?

Ok man fine, If u gonna threaten the old man, then I didn't see you. I saw someone else. My bad.

You scared bro?

Is it frowned upon to idle the marsh? I asked a GW that one day and he couldn't answer it lol

Only one way to roll in the marsh....and that's at WOT

I don't mind idling with a GTR :)

But in all seriousness, until I hit a flat I'm content with idling.. Unless that tide drops out.. Then it all goes down hill from there