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dogfish246 05-11-2013 10:23 PM
Visiting and want to go fishing! Need Help
 
Hello, I am coming down to LA to do some marine research on the local marshes and I am an avid fisherman. I am a student from NJ and have never been to LA. I will be staying at LUMCON near the end of Little Caillou Rd and wont have a car. Are there any good places to fish on this road? What is running now and how would you fish for them? I would really like to try fishing if I have any spare time at all (Im bringing a portable fishing rod).
Thanks a lot guys!

Sightwindow 05-12-2013 06:40 AM
When are you coming down? How long are you staying?

Slidellkid 05-12-2013 08:31 AM
I don't know where LUMCON is but if you get down this way you there are some areas you can fish from the bank on Prien lake. You could also fish the pier down at Cameron if you can find a way down there.

You can catch flounder, speckled trout (spotted trout in NJ) and redfish here.

Maybe somebody will take you out. You need to tell us when you will be here.

Sightwindow 05-12-2013 08:47 AM
LUMCON is in Cocodrie.

whunter29 05-12-2013 11:55 AM
You should be able to catch reds at Lumcon on shrimp

swamp snorkler 05-12-2013 01:39 PM
If you have access to a kayak which you should at Lumcon, you can fish the Marsh around there. Gold spoons on top of grass beds. Get rid of that colapsable pole and get something decent.

dogfish246 05-12-2013 01:48 PM
Thanks for the info guys. LUMCON is in Cocodrie at the end of Little Caillou Rd.

Im coming down next week and I am staying a week. I am not sure if I will get time to fish (but I always seem to find time ;)

So what type of shrimp? Grass shrimp? Also, do killifish work?

Would a black sea bass rig like this work with two hooks and a weight on the bottom:

https://www.thefisherman.com/images/...ghlow_bass.jpg

I always wanted to catch a Red or speckled trout! That would be awesome!

dogfish246 05-12-2013 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 579185)
If you have access to a kayak which you should at Lumcon, you can fish the Marsh around there. Gold spoons on top of grass beds. Get rid of that colapsable pole and get something decent.
Gold spoons? I will go pick them up now. About how big? Like large moth bass sized (1in or 2in about)? The collapsable rod is all I can bring bc I am flying out there. I have caught 20lb cats on it so I hope I can manage. Maybe I can take my freshwater rod?

Are the grass beds submerged marsh grass or like eel grass (seaweed type beds) Will they be visible?

Thanks again everyone!!!

jchief 05-12-2013 02:06 PM
Either Johnson spoon or something like a Red Ripper. Needs to run on top of the grass/water.

Sightwindow 05-12-2013 04:28 PM
PM sent. Also, somebody at LUMCON should know where to wet a line off the bank at the end of the road down there.

dogfish246 05-12-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jchief (Post 579192)
Either Johnson spoon or something like a Red Ripper. Needs to run on top of the grass/water.
Excellent! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Sightwindow (Post 579208)
PM sent. Also, somebody at LUMCON should know where to wet a line off the bank at the end of the road down there.
Ok checking now! Thanks!

swamp snorkler 05-12-2013 08:03 PM
My classmate works there.

Get a weedless gold spoon. I use 3/8 oz. You going to have fun..... its 3 miles south from the middle of nowhere. One of the top fishing spots in the US.

calcutta37 05-12-2013 08:41 PM
Pm me your number my camp is across the street maybe you can jump in the boat with me.

dogfish246 05-12-2013 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 579317)
My classmate works there.

Get a weedless gold spoon. I use 3/8 oz. You going to have fun..... its 3 miles south from the middle of nowhere. One of the top fishing spots in the US.
Oh man you have me so excited now!!!!!


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Originally Posted by calcutta37 (Post 579334)
Pm me your number my camp is across the street maybe you can jump in the boat with me.
Thanks a lot!!! Will do!!!

Slidellkid 05-13-2013 08:38 AM
You can buy shrimp down there. You can catch reds by just putting dead shrimp on a jig head and bouncing it along the bottom.

You probably won't want to go back to Jersey after a week in Cocodrie.

Duck Butter 05-13-2013 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Slidellkid (Post 579457)
You can buy shrimp down there. You can catch reds by just putting dead shrimp on a jig head and bouncing it along the bottom.

You probably won't want to go back to Jersey after a week in Cocodrie.
:grinpimp: x 100000000000000000000!


Dude, you are in for a treat. Killifish are called cocahoes down here/there and they work very well.

dogfish246 05-13-2013 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slidellkid (Post 579457)
You can buy shrimp down there. You can catch reds by just putting dead shrimp on a jig head and bouncing it along the bottom.

You probably won't want to go back to Jersey after a week in Cocodrie.
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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 579470)
:grinpimp: x 100000000000000000000!


I hope you are right :D So I will try using a gold spoon, shrimp on a jig head, and cacajoes (killifish)! Cast over grass beds around the marsh and see what happens. I think I have my bases covered!

Dude, you are in for a treat. Killifish are called cocahoes down here/there and they work very well.
So the cocahoes are gulf killifish right? Do you use large ones or will flounder sized work? Does the black sea bass rig I posted above work or should I set it up differently?


Thanks a lot everyone. You have all been so helpful and are getting me so so so excited to get down there!!!!

calcutta37 05-13-2013 03:31 PM
You are in for a treat next week is the Houma oilmans fishing rodeo. I will be down there all week.

Bacon 05-13-2013 03:36 PM
I caught specks by the light in the back of LUMCON at night when I was there quite a few years ago. Also if you go out on the boat with them and pull the trawl don't let them throw the shrimp back. Ask if you can keep them because if you don't they will throw them back.

latravcha 05-13-2013 03:44 PM
I will be in cocodrie wed-sat next week. What time durring the day are you free? I dont know what days I have people fishing with me but if the boat is not full you are more than welcome to come. PM me your number.

Duck Butter 05-13-2013 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dogfish246 (Post 579619)
So the cocahoes are gulf killifish right? Do you use large ones or will flounder sized work? Does the black sea bass rig I posted above work or should I set it up differently?


Thanks a lot everyone. You have all been so helpful and are getting me so so so excited to get down there!!!!
yes gulf killifish = cocahoes or mud minnows down here. You can probably catch all you want with that rig and a cocahoe if you are in deeper water and just want to sit and fish, but you may catch lots of unndesirable fish. A dead shrimp on that rig will keep you very busy with all kinds of fish:grinpimp: If you can get a kayak, may want to just get a popping cork, a little weight and a hook with a cocahoe on it and fish the edge of the marsh. The points and cuts in the marsh are a good place to start especially if the tide is moving. You can have the cork pole set out and throw something else as well, like a gold spoon, spinnerbait or whatever else you want to throw. You are in for a treat man

swamp snorkler 05-13-2013 03:49 PM
Man if you there for the Oilmans Rodeo someone did you a favor!

It the Thursday-Sunday before Memorial Day. Good times,

capt coonassty 05-13-2013 04:33 PM
If you cant get a canoe or anything, there is a bayou that runs just behind luncon, You can walk to it from the parking lot and wet a line.

dogfish246 05-13-2013 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by calcutta37 (Post 579623)
You are in for a treat next week is the Houma oilmans fishing rodeo. I will be down there all week.
Sweet! Unfortunately, I will be working from dawn to dusk...

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Originally Posted by Bacon (Post 579629)
I caught specks by the light in the back of LUMCON at night when I was there quite a few years ago. Also if you go out on the boat with them and pull the trawl don't let them throw the shrimp back. Ask if you can keep them because if you don't they will throw them back.
I will have to try that. I have never been down to LUMCON so I dont know if I will meet the people pulling the trawl (my crew does minnow traps).

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Originally Posted by latravcha (Post 579637)
I will be in cocodrie wed-sat next week. What time durring the day are you free? I dont know what days I have people fishing with me but if the boat is not full you are more than welcome to come. PM me your number.
Thanks man! Much appreciated!

dogfish246 05-13-2013 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 579643)
yes gulf killifish = cocahoes or mud minnows down here. You can probably catch all you want with that rig and a cocahoe if you are in deeper water and just want to sit and fish, but you may catch lots of unndesirable fish. A dead shrimp on that rig will keep you very busy with all kinds of fish:grinpimp: If you can get a kayak, may want to just get a popping cork, a little weight and a hook with a cocahoe on it and fish the edge of the marsh. The points and cuts in the marsh are a good place to start especially if the tide is moving. You can have the cork pole set out and throw something else as well, like a gold spoon, spinnerbait or whatever else you want to throw. You are in for a treat man
What undesirable fish do people catch? I love catching new fish, and at this point catching any fish is my goal! I am so excited! haha

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 579644)
Man if you there for the Oilmans Rodeo someone did you a favor!

It the Thursday-Sunday before Memorial Day. Good times,
It is just the date they picked for us to do our research. I am hoping the weather is good! What is there to do at the Rodeo? Is it close to LUMCON?

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Originally Posted by capt coonassty (Post 579673)
If you cant get a canoe or anything, there is a bayou that runs just behind luncon, You can walk to it from the parking lot and wet a line.
Sweet! I will have to check it out! A bayou is the marsh creek where the boats are docked correct? (sorry still learning the southern lingo) :cool:

jchief 05-13-2013 05:43 PM
Undesirable fish pretty much depends on the catcher. The main thing would be what we call a hardhead catfish. No idea what its real name is. Other than that you could possibly catch; sheephead, redfish, slack drum, speckled trout, black drum, croaker, flounder, and I am sure I missed some.

dogfish246 05-13-2013 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jchief (Post 579693)
Undesirable fish pretty much depends on the catcher. The main thing would be what we call a hardhead catfish. No idea what its real name is. Other than that you could possibly catch; sheephead, redfish, slack drum, speckled trout, black drum, croaker, flounder, and I am sure I missed some.
I would love to catch a hardhead cat (and all of the others). They have the venomous spines right? I never caught one before so I could add it to the list of fish species I have caught! All of those fish would be awesome to catch. I just watched the only youtube video I could find of fishing near LUMCON and it is exactly what you guys explained. They were fishing under a light at night using shrimp. I assume it was on the bottom (due to the cats and toadfish).

Man, it would be soooooo amazing if I could pull this off!!!!

Slidellkid 05-13-2013 07:10 PM
Latravcha,

That is a fine gesture; good on you for offering to take this young man out.

Dogfish, you need to find a way to make the trip with Latravcha if you can. I hope you have a good time. Make sure you eat some crawfish and fresh shrimp while you are down. If you really want to spoil yourself, get yourself some boudin. By the time you eat the boudin, shrimp, crawfish and crabs, you will be crying about having to go back to Jersey.

dogfish246 05-13-2013 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Slidellkid (Post 579737)
Latravcha,

That is a fine gesture; good on you for offering to take this young man out.

Dogfish, you need to find a way to make the trip with Latravcha if you can. I hope you have a good time. Make sure you eat some crawfish and fresh shrimp while you are down. If you really want to spoil yourself, get yourself some boudin. By the time you eat the boudin, shrimp, crawfish and crabs, you will be crying about having to go back to Jersey.
Yea a few people have come out and offered me a spot to go fishing. It was so nice! Gives me hope for people! I really dont think I will be able to get out on a boat because my research takes all day and we only have a week to do do 6 months of research lol...

I will let everyone know how I did when I get back... I am so excited! Thanks everyone for all the kind advice and help! It is much appreciated!

Any other advice is still welcomed! Thanks a lot guys! You dont know how grateful I am of everyone reaching out!

dogfish246 05-21-2013 06:53 AM
Just a quick update... Thanks everyone so so soooooo much for the advice! So far I caught a hardhead cat, 26in red, and a gar!

Dont have internet and phone roaming charges are crazy! Try to keep you posted!

Thanks so much again everyone! Made my trip catching these fish.
Speckled trout next!!!

swamp snorkler 05-21-2013 06:59 AM
Good deal. Specks are moving out the marsh if they haven't already. You may have a tough time catching without a boat.

dogfish246 05-22-2013 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 582401)
Good deal. Specks are moving out the marsh if they haven't already. You may have a tough time catching without a boat.
Got one last night! Caught 20ish fish in total. One speckled trout, 15 Reds ( 2 of them were 26in), some silver perch, and an oyster toadfish!

This is great!!!!!!! So awesome down here! If this storm passes I will try again tonight.

P.S. The fights are amazing on a collapsible freshwater rod with 10lb test :D

swamp snorkler 05-22-2013 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dogfish246 (Post 583210)
Got one last night! Caught 20ish fish in total. One speckled trout, 15 Reds ( 2 of them were 26in), some silver perch, and an oyster toadfish!

This is great!!!!!!! So awesome down here! If this storm passes I will try again tonight.

P.S. The fights are amazing on a collapsible freshwater rod with 10lb test :D

Weather should be out of here soon, glad you enjoying South LA.

latravcha 05-22-2013 09:14 PM
Holy crap. You did better than most of the guys on this site

dogfish246 05-23-2013 01:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 583213)
Weather should be out of here soon, glad you enjoying South LA.
I am loving it down here! The weather has been great!


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Originally Posted by latravcha (Post 583414)
Holy crap. You did better than most of the guys on this site
Yea, I really have this redfish thing down! Haven't gotten skunked yet (thanks to you guys)! Caught a dozen or so last night with a few black drum pups mixed in, 20-30 the night before with a speck in the mix, and tonight will be my last night fishing. Last night was so buggy but I just sucked it up and it was worth it! Gotta make the most of my time down here :) . I wish I had a pan, oil, and some flour because I would love to try a redfish! Next time...

I will let you know how it goes tonight, and then I will post some pics when I get back home!

Thanks again everyone. All your help has made this trip amazing! The science is going well too btw. I started my experiment and should be back in a few months to continue!

PotLikinisAhabbit 05-23-2013 01:44 PM
Fillet that red off the bone leave scales on. Baste, season, and the throw that in oven or on pit scale side down. Cook for 20is mins. For a specific recipe just search this site they have hundreds of ways to cook a red. Frying would probably be at the bottom. C'est Bon.

dogfish246 05-23-2013 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 583706)
Fillet that red off the bone leave scales on. Baste, season, and the throw that in oven or on pit scale side down. Cook for 20is mins. For a specific recipe just search this site they have hundreds of ways to cook a red. Frying would probably be at the bottom. C'est Bon.
Prob is I am at a dorm so no kitchen.

SHORT SHANK 05-23-2013 02:00 PM
There is a wooden structure behind LUMCON in the marsh that you can drive to. There is a deep washout off the north side I fished with live shrimp there on the bottom and wore the reds out. May catch trout at night as well if there are still lights. Gonna be a big party down there for sure with the Houma Oilmans Tourny.
Good Luck!

swamp snorkler 05-23-2013 02:01 PM
What they feeding you guys down there?

Sightwindow 05-23-2013 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dogfish246 (Post 583689)
I am loving it down here! The weather has been great!




Yea, I really have this redfish thing down! Haven't gotten skunked yet (thanks to you guys)! Caught a dozen or so last night with a few black drum pups mixed in, 20-30 the night before with a speck in the mix, and tonight will be my last night fishing. Last night was so buggy but I just sucked it up and it was worth it! Gotta make the most of my time down here :) . I wish I had a pan, oil, and some flour because I would love to try a redfish! Next time...

I will let you know how it goes tonight, and then I will post some pics when I get back home!

Thanks again everyone. All your help has made this trip amazing! The science is going well too btw. I started my experiment and should be back in a few months to continue!
Never in my life have I seen as many bugs as last night on the way down to Dulac. It looked like a fog under a few gas stations.

Well done on the fishing! My report a little later.

dogfish246 05-23-2013 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 583727)
What they feeding you guys down there?
Rice and beans... It's a shame because Louisiana is known for amazing cajun food (especially down in these parts)... I had a po-boy at Coco marina when I first got here because the cafeteria wasnt open, otherwise, nothing great.

swamp snorkler 05-23-2013 04:08 PM
Man that sucks. CoCo Marina has some pretty good grub though.


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