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B-Stealth 10-22-2009 03:04 PM

How fast is your rig?? Marsh Missiles
 
This is targeted more towards the smaller tiller handle outboards. You know the tweeked out Tahatsus, Suzuki’s, 40 mercs, ect.

What kinda engine do you run, what kinda boat, prop, pitch and engine work.


I know these guys exist because they used to pass me in Sabine Refuge doing about 45mph. :(

LaAngler 10-22-2009 03:14 PM

i used to run a 15/42 semi-v alweld with a yammy forty in sabine, it would do about 44 or so with my duck huntin gear.... it would eat the 25's.

then had a 15 marsh runner we ran with a mega 25 with 50 carbs, etc.... it had a 50 inch bottom but even with a load still ran a good 40+

they were getting 85 horsepower out of some of the 40 mercs but it was hard to find a hull that would use all the power without pounding you to death.

B-Stealth 10-22-2009 03:17 PM

Sabine Refuge Race
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 65510)
i used to run a 15/42 semi-v alweld with a yammy forty in sabine, it would do about 44 or so with my duck huntin gear.... it would eat the 25's.

then had a 15 marsh runner we ran with a mega 25 with 50 carbs, etc.... it had a 50 inch bottom but even with a load still ran a good 40+

they were getting 85 horsepower out of some of the 40 mercs but it was hard to find a hull that would use all the power without pounding you to death.

Yea I was the guy with the 25, its long run to burton in a 25.

huntin fool 10-22-2009 03:24 PM

Friend has a mega pushing 60 carbs, on a 14 ft bt (don't know width) i can hear him hoping all the way down the river.

Beats my friends 16'48 express with a 60 merc on the back.


My self, i put put along with my yammy 25 doing 32.

Ray 10-22-2009 03:26 PM

I had a 20/36 Weldcraft with a 40 Merc. 3 cylinder for duck and alligator hunting.
It would run around 35 mph. But it was propped for carrying a load, not for speed.
I carried 3 men, hunting stuff and a big lab to the blind and had to take off in shallow water.
I also carried heavy loads for alligator season, in shallow water.
It had a tunnel hull with a skeg in it for weeds.
I never fished out of it, just hunted and sometimes when crabbing in the marshes behind Cameron.
Hurricane Rita damaged her, I got her fixed up and Ike made her vanish. I never seen her again after Ike.

B-Stealth 10-22-2009 03:35 PM

Long N Skinny VS Short and Wide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 65515)
I had a 20/36 Weldcraft with a 40 Merc. 3 cylinder for duck and alligator hunting.
It would run around 35 mph. But it was propped for carrying a load, not for speed.
I carried 3 men, hunting stuff and a big lab to the blind and had to take off in shallow water.
I also carried heavy loads for alligator season, in shallow water.
It had a tunnel hull with a skeg in it for weeds.
I never fished out of it, just hunted and sometimes when crabbing in the marshes behind Cameron.
Hurricane Rita damaged her, I got her fixed up and Ike made her vanish. I never seen her again after Ike.

Sounds like a marsh machine.

Ray, do you think those long skinny 20ft boats perform better than a wider 17, or 18ft in the shallow H20?

LaAngler 10-22-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 65514)
Friend has a mega pushing 60 carbs

i dont think they made 60 carbs for those, he may have it at 60 HP

Lake area marine sold the 40's for a long time with mega stickers and fake serial number tags....

the game wardens in lacassine would pull the cowling and check your carbs tho....:redface:

huntin fool 10-22-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 65521)
i dont think they made 60 carbs for those

Lake area marine sold the 40's for a long time with mega stickers and fake serial number tags....

the game wardens in lacassine would pull the cowling and check your carbs tho....:redface:



i never did beleive he had it pushin 60 carbs. BUt it was supped up.

B-Stealth 10-22-2009 03:40 PM

Fool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 65514)
Friend has a mega pushing 60 carbs, on a 14 ft bt (don't know width) i can hear him hoping all the way down the river.

Beats my friends 16'48 express with a 60 merc on the back.


My self, i put put along with my yammy 25 doing 32.


Sounds like your doing good Fool, maybe I dont need a bigger engine I just need to drop about 100lbs. Is that a 2 or 3 cyl yamme?

huntin fool 10-22-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Stealth (Post 65524)
Sounds like your doing good Fool, maybe I dont need a bigger engine I just need to drop about 100lbs. Is that a 2 or 3 cyl yamme?

yep weighing only 75 lbs does wonders huh? ;)

Ray 10-22-2009 03:52 PM

B-Stealth, the wider bottomed boats prolly got up on plane faster, but when I was looking for a longer boat, that is all I could find. I bought it in the early 90's.
And I wanted a commercial rated boat. It had a thicker hull, more floatation and more ribs. Plus the transom was braced a little stronger. It had 2 braces between the ribs and the top of the transom.
The bad things about it was it didn't have a big casting deck and it was narrow. But at 20 ft., it had plenty of room.

LaAngler 10-22-2009 04:03 PM

correct me if i am wrong but i think the 20 foot length boats would get up shallower b/c they don't squat as bad jumpin on plane as a 15 or 16 footer. plus with the tunnel the transoms are taller, but it robbed speed..

now with mud motor tech where it is they have taken over......

cabwiz2 10-22-2009 04:07 PM

From what I have noticed a longer boat the same width will get up quicker(actually wont squat as much) but a shorter wider boat will squat less than a longer skinny boat. and a longer skinny boat that has enough horsepower to lift the bow will be faster than a shorter wide boat because less drag in the water.

B-Stealth 10-22-2009 04:11 PM

La I defiantly agree with you on the 15 or 16 footers, not enought length to displace the weight of the engine.

But would a wider 18 ft perform better than a skinny 20 fter. Not speed here just holeshot and shallow water performance.

huntin fool 10-22-2009 04:25 PM

Mines 15'48, bout as fat as they come. Big casting deck.


Only thing i wish i had on it was a 40 merc.

CatDaddy 10-23-2009 07:29 PM


this is my boat in action.. Thats me and Bay Slayer pulling my trawl catching skrimps.. Think how fast we can go if we didnt have the trawl..

BIGJ 10-23-2009 07:34 PM

That baby can turn.
It is Wicked:smokin:

adamsfence 10-23-2009 07:53 PM

no way am i going to be the passenger on that

bay_slayer 10-23-2009 09:30 PM

That is crazy insane

BIRD DOG 10-24-2009 02:35 AM

I have two,first one is a 1448 Weld Craft with a 2004 40 merc with 60hp carbs and a 15p ss prop.Boat runs 52 with just me in it.(I even pull out the plywood floor to run that fast),it runs 48 with me and a buddy.My other boat is 1752 Allweld with a 70hp Yamaha with 90 carbs.It sits on a homemade jackplate and the boat has a tunnel welded in.If it can float it will get on plane,takes about 4 in of water!That boat only runs 45.I need to add a tach and play with some props.

ROOSTER 10-24-2009 11:06 AM

Yawn ....my Shallow Sport can do that....:D

LostCajun 10-25-2009 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROOSTER (Post 66146)
Yawn ....my Shallow Sport can do that....:D

Like anyone asked or cares what your shallow sport will do.

ROOSTER 10-26-2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostCajun (Post 66376)
Like anyone asked or cares what your shallow sport will do.

****!.......YOU CARE....I KNOW YOU DO.:rotfl:

yak'em-n-stack'em 10-26-2009 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatDaddy (Post 66021)
YouTube - Wicked at Web Slough

this is my boat in action.. Thats me and Bay Slayer pulling my trawl catching skrimps.. Think how fast we can go if we didnt have the trawl..


that boat is sitting wayyyy to even keeled to have you in the drivers seat cat daddy:eek::eek::eek:

CatDaddy 10-26-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em (Post 66954)
that boat is sitting wayyyy to even keeled to have you in the drivers seat cat daddy:eek::eek::eek:


Pffffttttttt... the gas tank is on the opposite side as me.....

Besides... Im not fat.. Im buffed..


Got some needle and some thread?...... cause im RIPPED

crazy_coonass 01-11-2010 04:42 AM

i got a 17/48 all weld with a 115 johnson with me, my gear, and my buddy i am runnin about 65

B-Stealth 01-11-2010 07:55 AM

Thats Fast
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy_coonass (Post 100289)
i got a 17/48 all weld with a 115 johnson with me, my gear, and my buddy i am runnin about 65

Wow, DING DING DING we got a winner. :eek:

LaAngler 01-11-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy_coonass (Post 100289)
i got a 17/48 all weld with a 115 johnson with me, my gear, and my buddy i am runnin about 65

I call bs

SULPHITE 01-11-2010 11:23 AM

wow...living life on the edge eh??

fritz20 01-11-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 100322)
I call bs

I smell that too

Montauk17 01-11-2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy_coonass (Post 100289)
i got a 17/48 all weld with a 115 johnson with me, my gear, and my buddy i am runnin about 65

No way...

Gerald 01-11-2010 12:59 PM

I have a 12' x 32" alum. boat with a small go-devil.

The boat is rated for max of 8 hp. I tried a 15 hp outboard on it. After I put some weight up front, it would really get up and going. Don't know how fast it was going....I did not bring my GPS, but it was way to fast to feel safe in that small of a boat.

That outboard did not start easily and was not reliable so I did not ever use it on a hunt. It would have "kicked azz" compaired to the go-devil.

huntin fool 01-11-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 65510)
i used to run a 15/42 semi-v alweld with a yammy forty in sabine, it would do about 44 or so with my duck huntin gear.... it would eat the 25's.

then had a 15 marsh runner we ran with a mega 25 with 50 carbs, etc.... it had a 50 inch bottom but even with a load still ran a good 40+

they were getting 85 horsepower out of some of the 40 mercs but it was hard to find a hull that would use all the power without pounding you to death.


Marsh runner? Like the old ones? They started making them again, they tried selling my dad one for me, said it was LIGHT, aint nothing light about the new ones.

LaAngler 01-12-2010 12:17 PM

marshrunners were good boats, little heavy vs aluminum but with a wide bottom you dont lose much speed. they a lot better ride and quiet.

crazy_coonass 01-12-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 100364)
No way...

i will post pics of it when i get home from the rig

fritz20 01-12-2010 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy_coonass (Post 101101)
i will post pics of it when i get home from the rig

Pics of the rig or the GPS that says 65?

LaAngler 01-13-2010 03:34 PM

i really wish yamaha would make a tiller 15 inch shaft model of the 2 stroke 50

why oh why did they take our 3 cylinder 2 strokes away :cry:

Montauk17 01-13-2010 04:03 PM

In order to go that fast on that small of a boat you would need atleast a 28 pitch prop. They do not make a 28 pitch prop for a v4 lower unit,unless it was custom made. Show me a video with a gps saying your going 65 and I might belive it.

Montauk17 01-13-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 101267)
i really wish yamaha would make a tiller 15 inch shaft model of the 2 stroke 50

why oh why did they take our 3 cylinder 2 strokes away :cry:


You can thank the EPA for that. In the next few years there will be ZERO 2 strokes on the market. 2009 was the last year for any carb 2 strokes,now all there building in the plants are DFI motors like the optimax.

huntin fool 01-18-2010 02:55 PM

well im proud of my baby....

Today she was loaded down...(2 people, ice chest, tackle, batteries, etc) beat a merc 25, with one man (small dude) and didn't look to be loaded...

Musta been dat high octane i put in der :smokin:

LaAngler 01-18-2010 05:40 PM

yer wastin cash using high octane

huntin fool 01-18-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 103345)
yer wastin cash using high octane


I put medium in there (now the high high stuff, and not the low stuff) I was told to do that, last time my boat broke down.

Reel Bender 01-18-2010 06:09 PM

How bout some pictures!!

LaAngler 01-18-2010 08:07 PM

why did your boat break? water in the gas?

you got a fuel filter?

huntin fool 01-18-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 103458)
why did your boat break? water in the gas?

you got a fuel filter?


Water in the gas.



You mean like a seperator? then no

Montauk17 01-18-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 103467)
Water in the gas.



You mean like a seperator? then no

You for sure need a water seperator lil bro,I can get you one cheap if you want.

LaAngler 01-18-2010 11:20 PM

with todays ethanol 10 gas you need it

"W" 01-18-2010 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy_coonass (Post 100289)
i got a 17/48 all weld with a 115 johnson with me, my gear, and my buddy i am runnin about 65

Dude a 115 johnson will not do 65 with just the motor on a ice chest!!! 55 max with high winds to your back in the current:smokin:

flounder_smacker 01-19-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 103625)
Dude a 115 johnson will not do 65 with just the motor on a ice chest!!! 55 max with high winds to your back in the current:smokin:

lol dude knows nothing. how does a lil remote control boat go 70??? ever heard of power to weight ratio?? no i wouldnt think so.

huntin fool 01-19-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 103828)
lol dude knows nothing. how does a lil remote control boat go 70??? ever heard of power to weight ratio?? no i wouldnt think so.


You have a good point right there.


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