Gun ban list
 

http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
dont like this one bit

It looks like the list of guns Eric Holder allowed to go over the Mexican border in his Fast and furious debacle.

P.S. One of which killed a United States Border Patrol Agent.

This is bad bad....I am willing to protest

A ban on assault weapons is not the end of the world for gun owners, just those that want an assault weapon for whatever reason.

what is a assault weapon defined as?

You hit that right on the head. And they are unfortunately, fixin to define it for us!

The former ban was this: from Wikipedia

"Criteria of an assault weapon

Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', changes the classification from an assault weapon to a Class 3 weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again; they do not fire automatically like a machine gun; rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.[2]
In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:


A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.


An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law.
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine."

This sucks...

So basically guns that look dangerous? Assault weapons are whatever they want them to be. What is banning these weapons really going to do? The market is already flooded with high cap mags and semi auto rifles. Are we supposed to give these guns up?

Glad I have my guns

It's safe to say that there are millions of "assault" weapons currently in the us. And I'm sure there are going to be quite a few sold before this ban takes place. 8 months from now when some other mentally I'll goes out and slaughters people with a banned weapon then what? Guns are not the problem. People are.

I agree, people are the problem, they do the killing, but what weapon is their choice, an assault weapon. How many of these mass killings have been with a Browning Bolt action rifle or Remington 1100? Making assault weapons illegal to buy may just keep one idiot from walking into a gun shop or gun show and purchasing one to carry out another crazy act like CT. Wouldn't that be worth the ban? To me it would be, and I love my guns, but we got to start somewhere. There are a lot of other areas that need addressing also, mental illness and helping those in need would be another, Violence on TV and some of these video games our kids play everyday, another ....

1) video games have a recommended rating. When you have a 10 year old playing a mature rated game, that's bad parenting.

2) mcvey used a uhaul truck packed with fertilizer to kill a whole lot of people. Do you see uhauls and fertilizer banned?

Your crazy if you don't understand this is the path to eventually demonize your 1100 and bolt action browning.

he didn't buy the weapons used in the shooting. he took them from his parents gun cabinet. people wanting to do harm will find a way. i do believe that there needs to be a stricter screening process for owning any firearm and more for owning a "assault weapon". banning them just will keep the honest people from buying one.

Uhauls weren't banned but the The Secure Handling of Ammonium Nitrate Act of 2007 required the licensing of ammonium nitrate facilities and registration for buyers.

It didn't happen before, ain't going to happen again.

Drunk driver killed a innocent person ( Obama is placing a ban on all vehicles )

Where did I say that he did?

and alcohol :rolleyes:

Basis for the next presidential election to elect a REAL American who believes and upholds the constitution as originally written. Next election we can reverse whatever gun control non-sense is fixing to be put forth from this anti-American regime.

For the next four years stock up on sling shots and rocks.

So you saying the President is the one that can change the Constitution as originally written? Really?

Seems like this ***** in office can do anything else he wants....

Wag allow me to correct myself. Ah hum.....the Dictator/Socialist and his unAmerican followers can amend the constitution as originally written.

A REAL President will not allow the constitution to be changed as originally written.

Obama? Is that you?

There are already laws in place. The law is very clear, you cannot murder or kill innocent people. No matter what method. Weather it be a car, a rock, or a gun. More people get killed with handguns than with assault weapons. In most handgun killings it is a single shot that does the damage. So really it doesnt matter what law is passed. Crazy people will do crazy things. Jets into buildings using boxcutters as weapons. Lets face it. The government cant protect you from all bad things. Next time it can be something different. Everytime the government makes a rule or a ban, We lose a little more freedom.
Cigarettes kill more people than that and have done for 50 years. Im just saying

Preach on brotha, sing it if you got to

Aren't there background checks and gun registration for firearm purchasers?

Had a uncle kill his 4 year old nephew in DeRidder the other day. Stabbed him to death. They banning knives also ?

I wish I bought more guns before all this went down....bout to stockpile on ammo though

No it wouldn't be worth it. The next guy would use a semi auto pistol with a 17 round mag, gov't bans it. The next guy uses a single stack 1911, gov't bans it. The next guy uses a revolver, gov't bans it. Then a knife, then a bat, then a branch from a tree........ Are we to cut down all the trees because they are potential weapons? At the end of the day, some people are evil and will find a way to do harm. Death is a part of life, this isn't a Utopian society. If the gov't were to mitigate anything that has or could harm a person, we would all be walking naked because I could strangle someone with my freaking sock.

Amen

Well I think the point is that someone armed with a tree branch wouldn't be able to kill 28 people in a matter of minutes.

A pellet rifle could be considered an assualt rifle. Heck I could assault someone with my bare hands. some of you need to wake up. This is how they have been moving in on us. They want to ban a couple of lil things, you say, its okay, they will never take all of the guns away. Ones step at a time is how they do it. You have been believing the lie too long. And you dont think someone could kill 28 people with a tree branch in a few minutes? What the heck you think a baseball bat is made of? Check the fbi site and see whats the most popular weapon of choice is in brutal killings. I guarantee a crazed maniac could jump on a school bus of grade school kids and do just as much damage in a few minutes as this last sicko did. When I pick up an "assault" rifle, it doesnt automatically make me want to go out and start shooting people. You will never stop the evil in people. They will always find a way around. Thats what they do. While we are having normal everyday thoughts,Their every thought is about doing something wicked. If Im going to hafta fight for my life, I at least want as good a weapon as the bad guy has. If hes gonna have an assualt weapon, why cant I? If I see a group of bad guys coming,I sure would feel alot better with a 30 round magazine than a bolt action rifle. If you are even thinking about siding with the ban of these rifles, it wont be long before you are standing in line waiting to sell your guns back to the government.

I am up here in N La and we just went to a couple of sporting good stores. There ain't hardly any guns on the shelf:smokin:

.22s and AR-15s are very popular right now.



Back to the topic, the kid is said to have been autistic or have a mild form of autism. My wife used to be an aid for an autistic child and she says that they are almost numb to feelings. They have no emotion and are almost living in a world that is a big video game. The mother apparently took the kid out to the shooting range to shoot, wife says this is not a thing that anyone experiencing any form of autism should be subjected to.

Background checks yes, registration is a myth.

Don't take this wrong, but liberal inculcation has duped so many gun proponents and 2nd amendment supporters that it is scary.

The fact that it is unknown by so many gun owners whether gun registration is fact or fiction is exactly what the liberals want, and is crucial to their progression.

Basically, they have pumped registration into gun owners heads from so many avenues that they (gun owners) now believe they are already required to register what they buy, when they buy. Now, when registration does become mandatory it won't even sting.

INCULCATION and INCREMENTALISM. They are not dumb, they know exactly what they are doing.

You HAVE to familiarize yourself with your RIGHTS and disseminate the information YOURSELF.

We as gun owners and enthusiasts are the only ones that can fight the fight, misinformation is killing us and dropping the victory in the laps of the libs.

Didn't mean to call you out, but I feel it's my obligation to take this stand on issues that carry so much weight and have such a heavy bearing on the future of our country.

I'm sure you are a nice guy, but you are the problem. You've fully bought in.

You're way over in the tall grass.

Are you kidding? That was almost verbatim what is being gargled on mainstream news.

You are talking about banning weapons that will have no impact on crazy crimes. In reality, mass killings are at an all time low in the US and statically these school shootings DON'T happen.

Airplanes flew into the towers and everyone quit flying, or a plane crashes and everyone freaks out, but STATISTICALLY it doesn't even happen, so why does it warrant such drastic reactions mandating government intervention? TSA is a joke, and a massive drain on our tax dollars for absolutely no gain.

The media has played your emotions and your conscience like a flute.

Lets get this clear, what happened to those children is absolutely devastating, gut wrenching and sickening to me as a parent. But, I keep it in perspective and don't let a tragedy that is being glamorized by the media shape my decisions. It has to be kept in perspective.

Further, before TV and Video Games the world was just as messed up, if not more. Stop reaching for something to blame and think a little deeper. People blame those things because it is easy. Romans were sick people, I'm guessing video games were the cause? Medieval times were sick, musta been TV... I guess all the freedom the children in the Middle East have to play MA video games is what we should blame for their behavior?

"Assault" weapons
 

were already banned in Connecticut.....didn't seem to help did it? How about cutting out "gun-free" zones 'cause that's where most all of the horrific shootings occur. In other words, put one or more good guys in these zones with guns. Ever hear of a mass shooting at a gun range? :rotfl: Just ain't gonna happen!

I was watching an interview the other night of a teacher at the school who was huddled in her room with her class. She said the shooting continued for 20 MINUTES! Many people could be killed by a lunatic in 20 minutes with a bolt action gun if they had no way to defend themselves. He picked the school and class on purpose and it was because he knew they could not fight back.

But some muslim types armed with airplanes can murder over 3000 people. Some of the murdered were children.

Did the government ban airplanes? Did the government ban muslim types?

The answer is no to all.

History note: Columbine happened when the previous assalt weapon ban was in effect.

yep!

Well, I guess we never had a Real President then have we?

Lets start by taking away the guns of his body guards and see how safe he feels. Lets see how long a gun ban would last when he can't be protected from the criminal who bought the illegal gun on the streets. Criminals in prison can't have knifes or drugs but they still get them. Attachment 44280


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That would be kinda stupid to take away guns from law enforcement people wouldn't it.

No more than taking guns away from law abiding citizens. If guns were banned then why would law enforcement need guns. Ok I'll go ahead an answer this for you because the CRIMINALS would still have their guns.


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Always a black market. How is fantasy land?

Lol


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So how would a ban on assault weapons be an act of taking your guns away? It is a ban on buying assault weapons, the government is not coming to your home to take away your guns that you own. That won't happen, it would take both Congress and the Senate to amend the constitution to have that done. I don't see it happening. Hey, if you want an assault weapon go by one now, before a ban, if a ban happens. No one stopping you now.

First it's "only" the assault riffles then its "only" the semi riffles/guns then its"only" the............


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