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"W" 07-07-2012 04:17 PM

Brad Vincent Reef
 
How much thought was put in the location of this reef?? ?


Over the last 3 mornings it has been in dead path of every boat heading south... I left with about 3 boats today heading south to channel area and all 4 of us crossed the reef on a straight shot,

I have ran over it everyday along with most guides....we all talked about it yesterday and today....

You will never be able to fish that if
super cut, wash out , 9mile ,west cove, any where on channel south is hot..

Every boat leaving Hebert landing or camps run right over it

all star rod 07-07-2012 04:28 PM

I guess it is to hard to make a left or right (pass around it) once you are a few hundred yards from it...

"W" 07-07-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 458398)
I guess it is to hard to make a left or right (pass around it) once you are a few hundred yards from it...

For me no....but for the 75 boats that don't know....yes

I would be mad if I was on fish and get there at 530am to have 50 boats run all over me ...

Bottom line its in a horrible location and everyone who fishes the lake daily agrees

meaux fishing 07-07-2012 04:35 PM

If there is people fishing it are you still gonna run right over it?

"W" 07-07-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 458401)
If there is people fishing it are you still gonna run right over it?

You must never fished basket reef ... If you have then that will answer that question for you

meaux fishing 07-07-2012 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 458402)
You must never fished basket reef ... If you have then that will answer that question for you

Yes I have and Im not asking about people on the weir hwy I mean you personally and the guides you talked to and all the regulars. The reef is in the middle of the lake so all the weir traffic wont be running over it

"W" 07-07-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 458404)
Yes I have and Im not asking about people on the weir hwy I mean you personally and the guides you talked to and all the regulars. The reef is in the middle of the lake so all the weir traffic wont be running over it

I'm sure we all know that if fish are on it we will not toast the reef , but with weirs closed lots of traffic is now heading south

I think they could of plan a better area.... Could of looked at lines and things....

When you have a reef you can place anywhere ....why not look at lines and common boat traffic .. That area is a line of common boat traffic.from June September for sure

It will get ran over with people fishing it there is way too much traffic that runs that line ......when I plunged it In I had tracks all over it, that's before I even knew where it was

redaddiction 07-07-2012 05:01 PM

So change your routes heading south and tell you're buddies to do the same! Now that you know there is a reef there. Its notlike it covers the entire width of the lake. I guess Youneed to be on every committee and board that has anything to do with your precious lake. Cause you're never happy with anything anyone does there.

Salty 07-07-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 458413)
So change your routes heading south and tell you're buddies to do the same! Now that you know there is a reef there. Its notlike it covers the entire width of the lake. I guess Youneed to be on every committee and board that has anything to do with your precious lake. Cause you're never happy with anything anyone does there.

Wouldn't have to be very wide to do that.

Why can't people that regularly fish that place just deal with the way things are and stop b itchin' about every little issue? You got more boat traffic over there than you got water for 'em to run, so, there is gonna be things that piss ya off every trip. If you are aware of that and don't wanna deal with it, then, just go somewhere else. Never heard people whine and complain about fishing like they do on Big Lake.

Salty 07-07-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyShaw (Post 458423)
You should get out the house more often, come fish for a week and say that comment again.......bet you will have a new perspective on Big Lake and understand why *****ing takes place.

I explained why in my previous post. If you got a better explaination...I'm listenin'..............:smokin:

cmcnabb 07-07-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 458419)
Wouldn't have to be very wide to do that.

Why can't people that regularly fish that place just deal with the way things are and stop b itchin' about every little issue? You got more boat traffic over there than you got water for 'em to run, so, there is gonna be things that piss ya off every trip. If you are aware of that and don't wanna deal with it, then, just go somewhere else. Never heard people whine and complain about fishing like they do on Big Lake.

Couldn't agree more. Sure, it's frustrating as hell how people act, but *****ing 24/7 about it won't change a thing

DA COVE 07-07-2012 05:53 PM

I recommend a little cheese to go along with that whine!! Good God, deal with it. Would be different if u did actually own it!!

mcjaredsandwich 07-07-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyShaw (Post 458429)
Because we are trying to make a living and are out there at least half of every month, while you on the other hand sit at home on the computer and paint baits.
This is our office per say and job
You never complained about your work place or conduct of others in it?
Thought so ......

So basically, guides are office fishermen. ;)




Hey..that makes W an office fisherman cents he got his license. Boom!

sammich

homerun 07-07-2012 05:59 PM

people still catch fish on commisary even though its ran over every day.

Salty 07-07-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyShaw (Post 458429)
Because we are trying to make a living and are out there at least half of every month, while you on the other hand sit at home on the computer and paint baits.
This is our office per say and job
You never complained about your work place or conduct of others in it?
Thought so ......

Well, I hate to tell ya, buddy, but, it ain't gonna do nothing but get worse. Guides, like yourself, have to be able to adapt. The ones that do are the more successful ones and the ones who do not adapt, but, piss 'n' moan instead.....usually do not succeed.

You can throw all the jabs at what I do all you want. Fact is, I did adapt when I was in business. I had no choice. But, now I can afford to stay home and "paint baits".



BTW, "we are trying to make a living"...you quit your day job?

hewes 07-07-2012 06:05 PM

w call your buddy jindal he will move it for you i'm sure?

Salty 07-07-2012 06:14 PM

We have members here that fish those waters on a regular basis and consistently catch fish and you never hear them whinin' and complainin' about stuff that happens on the water. Makin' fun of it, maybe, but not blamin' it on them not catchin' fish....Spinner and Chicken, just to name a couple.

DA COVE 07-07-2012 06:21 PM

It's a natural resource. Everyone is entiteled to there share. Guides aren't any farther up the food chain than anyone else. That's what happens when u try and turn fishing into a job, or a compitition. If u can't adapt, ur in trouble. Oh yea, and those with the t tops and non haynie boats, spent their money on the fuel, gear, tackle just the same as all of u better than though bunch. And guess what, yall where all pilgrams at one time!!!

marshrunner757 07-07-2012 06:22 PM

Here we go. Their office.... that water belongs to the sports just as much as the guides. If you pay attention, the guides are the rudest most arogent people on the water. They believe because that's their living, the water belongs to them and they have very little consideration for us out there fishing for fun! I have been swamped, crowded and pushed out of a spot by guides too many times to count. If you can't share the water and show coutousy out there, maybe you should think about a career change. I hope the sports these guides take out don't think that's how we are supposed to act on the water.

marshrunner757 07-07-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyShaw (Post 458445)
Dude you are totally taking this in the wrong direction and flipping it on me . . . . .

Ask anyone that knows me, im far from "arrogant"
EXTREMELY patient and always give people the benefit of the doubt, now all these post may hurt me as a service provider and make me look bad so im done with this thread i only brought it upon my self my apologies

You are right. I don't know you. And yes there are some very considerate guides out there. But the 80% that think they own the waterways gives the 20% like you a bad name. Maybe that's something that should be discussed between guide services. I personally know a few and who they guide for and they are very arrogant. Not sure if its them or the way these guide services train their people.

Salty 07-07-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyShaw (Post 458444)
You tell me once where i have blamed others if i had a bad day also i dont post a report every single time i put a bait in the water stuff has been busy for me, but if that what you want to see so you know im on a consistent bite well call me every afternoon around 4:00 and ill let you know whats going on.
As for your adaptation theory, i know exactly what you mean and i do what is necessary to show my sports a good time and put them on fish. I have had one complaint, and thats because they were ready to go in at 10am and we only had 40 trout and some reds they wanted a limit by 8 and on the road for 10 sorry sometimes its a little tougher than normal out there.
Im not the one who started this thread so calling me out sayin i ***** and moan about everything is absurd and you know it! Do i agree with waltrip yes the reef stays getting run over, there are pilgrims running rampid everywhere but there is always the next spot to hit and gladly we have an estuary that produces that for us.

Kade, I never "signaled" you out. I never even insinuated you were one of the whinin' ones. I never even mentioned guides, either. You brought that up. And, for the record, I disagree that guides, in general, are arrogant. As far as the reef in question.....did they put it there yesterday? If not...I'm sure Waltrip is not the first to be concerned about it. Hey, man.....you adjust and go with the flow.

mriguy 07-07-2012 06:50 PM

I'm on this site basically 24/7. The guides who post on here have never come off as arrogant. In fact, Shaw, Jared, and Trey have given up more info than we office fisherman probably deserve. I'm not saying there are no azzhole guides on the lake, because obviously that's a lie, but these three have gone out of there way to help. My .02

Salty 07-07-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyShaw (Post 458449)
I felt differently, and per haps jumped the gun and got a little defensive.
My apologies

No worries. :smokin:

The point to my initial post was that there are inconsiderate and, yes, even unknowledgeable fishermen on every estuary. The reason, however, that it appears to be worse over there is because it's the only local body of water and it's just too damn small to handle today's pressure. It's not that there is more pressure on Big Lake than anywhere else, or, that there are more of the aforementioned fishermen. It's because there isn't enough room. You have to admit that there are alot of people who fish over there that constantly complain about the goings-on. The simple solution is to just relocate.

Salty 07-07-2012 07:39 PM

Maybe the state should consider making Big Lake one of those "management"-type deals like they do for wildlife and let the pressure be governed by lottery drawings. Figure out what is a sustainable amount of boats to allow for everyone to stay out of the other's way, and, let 'er rip. Your name will be submitted once per week and the decided number of names will be pulled weekly. I guess guides would have to be exempt.

:smokin:.

Jadams 07-07-2012 08:08 PM

The guides that give big lake bad names r those big groups that run lotta boats ain't naming names it's bc they have 2to 4 guides that can fish and the rest of fleet follows cell phones and the whole fleet sits on a reef and think they own it.. The good guides u rarely see and if people where I wanna fish I go elsewhere bc I don't want someone seeing my holes on a reef every reef has a particular spot that's good don't wanna dhow that to every1. But as far as u marsh runner I think ur the one that's arrogant but lemme guess ur one of them computer heros

CaptSI 07-07-2012 08:38 PM

more drama on saltycajun than on Facebook and always the same people involved..

"W" 07-07-2012 09:03 PM

Bottom line is people who don't know need to know


Don't run over reefs If you don't have too....go around ..

And the guy who said you still catch on Comm pt..

1st off the sweet spots of com pt are rarely ran over by boats,,,,,

Jadams 07-07-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by marshrunner757 (Post 458443)
Here we go. Their office.... that water belongs to the sports just as much as the guides. If you pay attention, the guides are the rudest most arogent people on the water. They believe because that's their living, the water belongs to them and they have very little consideration for us out there fishing for fun! I have been swamped, crowded and pushed out of a spot by guides too many times to count. If you can't share the water and show coutousy out there, maybe you should think about a career change. I hope the sports these guides take out don't think that's how we are supposed to act on the water.

Exactly how does a guide push u out of a spot? Did he hook a tow strap to u? If ur catching fish ur on anchor... But lemme guess ur one of those morons that catch 2 and keep drifting and pass up a limit of trout bc u drifted over the top of em r u stay on ur troll motor all day long spooking em

"W" 07-07-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 458487)
Exactly how does a guide push u out of a spot? Did he hook a tow strap to u? If ur catching fish ur on anchor... But lemme guess ur one of those morons that catch 2 and keep drifting and pass up a limit of trout bc u drifted over the top of em r u stay on ur troll motor all day long spooking em

Bingo....

How many who fished today caught a limit???


I dropped my boat at 745pm this afternoon and limited out @805pm all on topwater
No boats trolling wide open ...slamming things in boat , trolling up wind

DA COVE 07-07-2012 09:19 PM

And the trophy goes to the lepricon with the crapy live well!!!!

"W" 07-07-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DA COVE (Post 458494)
And the trophy goes to the lepricon with the crapy live well!!!!

Hard for trout to live when you catch them on topwater and rip gills out

"W" 07-07-2012 09:32 PM

And I think I forgot to but my recirculation pump on for the 1st 5 trout or so

DA COVE 07-07-2012 09:40 PM

Yea, i understand that.. i just like harass' n the bashers that can'tt take the bash'n!!!

all star rod 07-07-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by marshrunner757 (Post 458443)
Here we go. Their office.... that water belongs to the sports just as much as the guides. If you pay attention, the guides are the rudest most arogent people on the water. They believe because that's their living, the water belongs to them and they have very little consideration for us out there fishing for fun! I have been swamped, crowded and pushed out of a spot by guides too many times to count. If you can't share the water and show coutousy out there, maybe you should think about a career change. I hope the sports these guides take out don't think that's how we are supposed to act on the water.


X2, about a month ago I had a guide troll in on me at long point and set his PP down not even 50 yards from me. I am sure if it was the other way around he would of did the famous big like gesture "throw his arms up in the air" F the guides.....If you have an issue get another job. For example, if I had issues in my profession I would find something else! I love their line "I am trying to make a living":rotfl::rotfl: FYI, it is not YOUR LAKE.....:work: However, not all guides cry like some do.

Jadams 07-07-2012 10:00 PM

F the guides? 10k says ud never say it to my face!

all star rod 07-07-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 458399)
For me no....but for the 75 boats that don't know....yes

I would be mad if I was on fish and get there at 530am to have 50 boats run all over me ...

Bottom line its in a horrible location and everyone who fishes the lake daily agrees

W, I would think if you are anchored out in an open area that they "office fisherman" would run a few hundred yard around you. Now if you are on anchor in the a spot that you have to take to cross thru the ship channel to get to west cove for example, well that is just tough luck...

all star rod 07-07-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 458514)
F the guides? 10k says ud never say it to my face!

First off you missed my point, some guides pull up on people fishing.....and in their eyes (some of the guides) that is fine. However, if you do that to them well they complain and whine....that is all I am saying. In the end, guides have no more of a right to the lake as office fisherman. However, if you are a guide well good for you but you do not have any more right to a spot than the job blow office fisherman.

all star rod 07-07-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 458472)
The guides that give big lake bad names r those big groups that run lotta boats ain't naming names it's bc they have 2to 4 guides that can fish and the rest of fleet follows cell phones and the whole fleet sits on a reef and think they own it.. The good guides u rarely see and if people where I wanna fish I go elsewhere bc I don't want someone seeing my holes on a reef every reef has a particular spot that's good don't wanna dhow that to every1. But as far as u marsh runner I think ur the one that's arrogant but lemme guess ur one of them computer heros

So who are these guide services???? I plan on taking some clients to big lake and I want to make sure I do not get screwed..

Jadams 07-07-2012 10:16 PM

So do big lake regulars big deal. But stereotyping guides is bs. If he's as close as u say then he can hear u just tell tell em hey ur getting a lil close and I'm sure 99.9percent will back up. I have never seen one guide that has ever got that close to me. Now I've seen em waiting back lil ways and if they thick enough and there in a position to ease in and not spook I'll wave em in. But yet I've had non guides try to come in. I keep topwater tied on at all times just to protect my area I can throw over 50 yds 360 degrees to protect my spot trust me if u cast at sum1 boat they ain't comin closer. 50 yds should be good enough. Not to spook as long as they don't use big motor

"W" 07-07-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 458512)
X2, about a month ago I had a guide troll in on me at long point and set his PP down not even 50 yards from me. I am sure if it was the other way around he would of did the famous big like gesture "throw his arms up in the air" F the guides.....If you have an issue get another job. For example, if I had issues in my profession I would find something else! I love their line "I am trying to make a living":rotfl::rotfl: FYI, it is not YOUR LAKE.....:work: However, not all guides cry like some do.

Dude I watch you blow out group after group of birds last year ... I caught about 15-18 trout per group ....yall would blow out every group to catch 1-3 trout (and I saw you do it)

So your not even a good fisherman to even start telling people how to fish

Jadams 07-07-2012 10:27 PM

Won't ever say anything bad about another guide r guide service most of us are all friends just some r better than the rest. Just trust me there's lots of guides that shouldn't be in my opinion if u don't have 10yrs on lake u shouldn't guide. Yea im new but was born and raised here been fishing all my life here grew up on choupique bayou had 1st boat at 11 and would fish big lake 3 days a week after school and just about every weekend from feb to duck season

Jadams 07-07-2012 10:31 PM

Make a post ask who's good guide then pm the people that reply and chiose

all star rod 07-07-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 458527)
Dude I watch you blow out group after group of birds last year ... I caught about 15-18 trout per group ....yall would blow out every group to catch 1-3 trout (and I saw you do it)

So your not even a good fisherman to even start telling people how to fish

Never said I was great....so funny that same day you posted that you limited by 9am......but at 11 am when I saw you, you were trying to catch them dinks under the birds so fast you did not even measure them and left them on the floor of your boat...most were not even keepers....i bet you had throw most back since they were undersize....you left them on the bottom of your boat since you were trying to catch your 15....i wonder how many dead undersized you threw back that day??? Plus the guy I had with me reads your post on the site...when I told him it was you...he want to pissy you....he was actually driving my boat....lol

mcjaredsandwich 07-07-2012 10:47 PM

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all star rod 07-07-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyShaw (Post 458535)
Get a ****in life duck.......
W and Jared hit the perfect points
Get out of here with that crap

You act like I said it was you who trolled up to me.....

PUREBAY2200 07-07-2012 10:52 PM

Bunch a sissys complaining....... Lmao
Like kids on a playground fighting over swings, monkey bars and see-saws......

CaptSI 07-07-2012 11:02 PM

lol that's every thread, everyday..

Top Dawg 07-07-2012 11:02 PM

The reef is there and it ain't gonna move so deal with it. Just the way I look at it.

"W" 07-07-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 458534)
Never said I was great....so funny that same day you posted that you limited by 9am......but at 11 am when I saw you, you were trying to catch them dinks under the birds so fast you did not even measure them and left them on the floor of your boat...most were not even keepers....i bet you had throw most back since they were undersize....you left them on the bottom of your boat since you were trying to catch your 15....i wonder how many dead undersized you threw back that day??? Plus the guy I had with me reads your post on the site...when I told him it was you...he want to pissy you....he was actually driving my boat....lol


Pull up the date because I was solo when you saw me and I had ChrisR with me that mourning...LMAO

We had 30 at 9

I went back out solo and tagged about 30 more....you did not see anything hit my floor...they hit the live well

once I picked about 8-10 i would tag them.


Yall could not catch more than two...just shows what you know about fishing and your level..

So keep out of big boys threads

all star rod 07-07-2012 11:11 PM

Ok DoubleU......i believe you.....happy now.


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