Duck season changes?
 

Anyone read the outdoor page in the American Press yesterday? Possibility of a 30 or 45 day duck season for the next four years. I don't care how many zones or splits we have but at least let us keep our 60 day season. Several states have longer seasons than us already. Anyone know any further info on this? I don't see any advantage to shortening the season.

Yea go to ldwf site and take the survey

I pray to God that we have 30 day season the next 4 years.

The 60 day hunting day total is set by the duck pond count which comes out during the summer. Just like teal season, for it to be 16 days I think the BW teal count has to be over 2.5 or 3 million. I see us having another 60 day season and hopefully another 16 day teal season. I think you are getting the 30 / 45 day mixed up with the 2 or 3 splits. The # of splits has nothing to do with the 60 day hunting thing.

X2, this has only to do with the # of splits not the # of hunting days.

Why? Not trying to start anything, just wondering.

fixed it..

thats what i'm talkin about

Not sure I want to go back to thirty days.....well I know I don't.
But I sure liked the hunter numbers back then.

Seemed as though when we went to 60 and 6 every V.P. Muckity Muck LLC bought a damn Benelli and thought he was a duck hunter.

Never seen so many shiney Columbia jackets in my life the next few years after that.

To reduce some of the weekend warriors (tv/magazine) hunters. And hopefully reduce these outrageous unheard of prices for leases.

i don't think the 30 or 45 day season will go through either but it was definitely considered in the article, along with the splits and zones

first off hunting is like any other sport, you got to pay to play unless you own your property.. but as for the 30 day season, that is ridiculous.. i agree with noodle.. why would we have to suffer and have a shortened season when its already getting harder and harder each year to kill a duck.. Louisiana has the most pressure on ducks and it is only getting worse. why do yall think there are more people trying to kill specks now.. cause that is the next best thing, but that has started to suffer the past few years as well.. the hatch numbers have been up the past few years but i just think there are too many variables, such as weather and short stopping, to just change the season to 30 days... not trying to start an argument but just trying to get other peoples thoughts...

I wish the season would open for teal only for 4 weeks in Sept. ....then close to Dec 20th and close feb 20

bottom line......duckanomics means bang for the buck.

when guys do not get alot of it they will move on to something more bucky than ducky.
I started hunting during the 80's when it was 30/3

the pressure comes from the guys with the means to buy a regular Joe out, put surface drives in any hole imaginable and hunt thirty days at a time.

The sport has changed exponentially in the last thirty years with more of a "bass fisherman's" feel, like duck hunting will produce "duck masters" or something.

Not knocking it at all......did the bass thing myself for a while.

But with the internet and stickers all over trucks and this "rockstar" hunter bull ****, out sport is being over come by peeps that live in the shallow end of the pool.

Again, these are just my opinions and I want everyone to give them.

Arguments are not bad at all man, it's the "mine is bigger than yours" contest that waste time.

I'll hunt any day they give me.
But I still like the push pole and the pirogue .........

You kinda sung my tune cgoods17....."getting harder and harder each year to kill a duck......."

I am blessed to be able to lease some fine places.......if I wanted to.......and my favorite place is down river, with the push pole and pirogue.

Your response and cgoods is the exact reason I want 30 and 3.

I hunt rice field and could care a less how long the season is...I work 7 n 7 and onlynhunt with south winds and warm morning ...this is when we smash ducks...... I limit out on teal everyday during teal season so I'm happy

you want 30/3 b/c of why?

i think 60 is plenty but maybe breaking it up into 3 splits is the better more logical option...

Read your first reply. You answered that question. And simple peddler answered it more thorough.

because it will eliminate the showers from the growers in our sport.

10-4

cody you know you want to kill more than 3 mallards a morning haha

I can sacrifice for the sake of duck hunting.

Bottom line is with the duck numbers we currently have 60 days does not hurt a thing. It doesn't matter what other hunters are doing out there, as long as there is birds let us hunt. A 60 day/5 duck limit would be fine with me, but don't take the number of days we have in the field away from us. 30 days for people who can only hunt weekends is just plain unfair. I don't think the 30 or 45 day season will happen, but just wanted to get yalls thoughts.

I would also like to see a ban on mechanical decoys and limited ammo on refuges.

Damn you folks have no idea how the seasons are set or what limits bird take. Look up Adaptive Harvest Management(AHM) and do some learning. Reducing the limit will do nothing. Reducing the number of days is the only way to reduce the harvest. Been proven time and again.

I could care less about the flappy ducks, they don't really work down here. The ammo thing would be nice if it could be enforced. But we both know it cannot. Just like running boats through the marsh. No one cares about the laws.

I just want the flappy ducks outlawed so people will learn how to hunt instead of just stick a spinner in the mud and sky bust everything that flies over.

U can take der spinners but it won't stop da sky busting.

apples and oranges

skybusting, using lead and killing over the limits are a cultural thing and passed down from hunter to hunter.

no matter what days you have or limits poachers and outlaws will be out there.

What the limit of days would do is push away every newby want to be duck hunter.

I am not FOR the limited days for a long term, all we would need is a few years.
You could get great deals on the baddest, fastest, muddest mud motors out there and 3 1/2 inch Berettas and Benellis would be on every pawn shop shelf around.

And leases would go down.

The effects on the ducks would in all likelyhood be minimal.
The effects on hunters would be worth it.

I guess we should only be able to use single shot shotguns and limit the amount of decoys you can use to....

Harvest management needs to improve to the states north of us. I am not a duck hunter, but have learned about harvest management.

Well did you learn that AHM is federal and that ducks are federally managed because they migrate unlike deer? Meaning, duck regulations, seasons, and limits are flyway wide and that includes every state in said flyway! I can't believe you would make a comment like that when you don't anything about how it works.

More reason for me to deer hunt more. Lol

Fine by me.

Well, feesherman, with more habitat being manipulated to the north of us, it has the potential to influence the ducks to stay there. If you want more ducks to make it down here, there has to be more to make it here. I am not stupid. Town house ball come get some. Ill pull up some numbers for you.

Bwahahaha com git sum. Town haus bawl

Gotta keep his spirit alive.


Feesherman, I heard they are hiring a new flyway head manager. Maybe with your extensive knowledge you should apply.

At least I have a hint of a clue on what I am talking about. How about you tell us how you are going to make all those private land owners change the way they manage their habitat for ducks in those states north of us just so us poor old Louisiana boys can still have our share. I mean since you know so much!

As much as we gripe about duck hunting the fact is Louisiana kills more ducks than ANY state PERIOD. We got it better than most, but for the record I hate spinners, and anyone with a sticker on their barrel:grinpimp:

Well since you are all about the federal regulation, the federal government can do a lot of things these days.

I didnt say I had a solution. I merely recognized the problem. But, being the internet federal manager you are, I am sure you could do something about it. You know the AHM handbook inside and out.



Take a step back for a second. All I said was harvest management needs to improve IF there are to be increasing populations of ducks and geese down here. I also said that habitat manipulation to the north IS a main cause of declining populations reaching the coast. No where did I say I was going to enforce it, or anything of that nature.

I do not feel like doing my research with numbers and graph. I don't want to make you look bad. Call me out again for making an observation and something I spent 2 semesters on and Ill gladly do so. Tawn haus bawl eyel be dere want sum com git sum.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with McCheese. The ducks just aren't making it down here like they use to, mallards especially. These guys in OK and KS are shooting limits of greenheads ONLY, everyday. More than 2-3 mallards for me on a hunt doesn't happen very often. We used to hammer the mallards in PI 7-8 years ago. But our hunting pressure also has alot to do with it. Everyone duck hunts. There isnt a mass of water that a duck could think about going to that someone doesn't hunt down here. Nothing we can do about it. Our property owners were considering doubling the price per acre on my lease in PI cause they know people will pay it. Luckily they aren't. Some older guys I know that stay in camp next door to me paid $38,500 this past season for 500 acres. People like that are why it's so hard to find a good spot nowadays.

Yeeeeeeeeeahhh, so that's not what you said. But anyway, why don't you expound on the, the "Harvest management needs to improve" part. What do you even mean by that? What does that have to do with the AHM matrix?

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I added the IF to further my argument.

Ill get out of class at 1205 and I will consult Neo on the AHM matrix. You should have taken the blue pill.

30 Day season will not knock the cost of blind leases down..I promise.....

you still have teal season and goose so all blinds will stay the same price....

So you don't know what you're talking about. I thought so. You should've armed yourself with a tad of knowledge before you jumped with both feet.

P.S. I find it very difficult to try and have a grown up conversation with someone that talks like this.

Ducks killed by legal hunting is one of the LEAST concerns of future duck populations.

That really depends. The last time the seasons got knocked down to 30 days a lot of people gave up duck hunting all together. When the demand drops, so too will the prices. If everyone stays in the game and keeps paying, then you're right, the demand will be there and the prices won't fall. But again, that depends.

Im just in class and dont feel like opening multiple sources at once.


But I will take the time to send this.

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