Do you guys like the fresh water flushing of BL?
I know most would prefer higher salinity levels going into spring time, but I personally believe a strong influx of fresh water will do the BL basin a tremendous amount of good for the estuary in the long term. Marsh in the surrounding areas will benefit greatly along with a healthy dose of nutrients for larval survival. Your thoughts?
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Yes..its always good to get a big shot of Fresh water in BIG lake
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Oysters prefer saltwater. Marshes getting enuff saltwater from the rain. They's full now.
I'm ready for the rain to stop. My grass in the back yard is almost ankle deep and it is too wet to mow. |
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it will help for sure in our marsh in gc for the vegetation to grow back this summer. Come on teal season let's rock n roll. Too soon? |
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How long can oysters survive in low salinities? Verm Bay seems to have great production of oysters even with our 4 months of fresh river water in early summer..... |
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Screwed that up, didn't I. Meant freshwater. |
Let mother nature do her thing
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That's what screwed it up to start with. Too much saltwater back there. Drought caused a lot more saltwater to come in that normal. Killed off a buttload of good grass, causing more errosion. Saltwater is killing them on the North side of Vermillion Bay also. |
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Ima lil smarter than I look.
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Fresh water means joe,s cove is on..
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Shhhh.:pissed: |
There is actually a know keep secrect of a place that keeps saltwater even when you have lots of freshwater ...... No body really knows why it don't drain or flush but you can have 1000% fresh water in turners and this place will be around 5ppm
I over herd Jeff Poe talking about this area..and it hold true 3 years ago when we had a real wet winter and spring...no one was catching fish but one of his guides was smashing them everyday in this area...and right now the salinity is higher than the south part of lake |
Do you feel the specks move out of the fresher water to the south part of the lake? I have always thought that there is a salty layer of water on the bottom with the fresh water on top. The specks in my opinion don't move that much with dropping salinities, however their feeding habits become different. Fish stay on the bottom until levels rise. I fish mostly VB and do find that we can catch fish in rather muddy fresh water. They do hug the bottom with the baits needing to be slowly worked. Ever notice the color difference of specks caught in a low salinity area?
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Hahaha, good joke. |
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Thanks for that info Raymond....very interesting grafts and such....still doesn't change my opinion on how and why I fish cetain areas of VB w/ low salinities. |
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Deeper water does holds salinity down below the fresh water.
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That so called spot that stays saltier than everything around? That stays at 5 ppm? 5 ppm is .005 ppt, which is pretty much fresh.
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Ah, that makes more sense. Still not that salty, but way more believable now.
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Lake Jackson or Fort Jackson???:work: |
Was playing Army in Belle Chasse after Katrina hit and we would get off work and catch limits of redfish right off the bank of the MS River there in December. Water was at pool stage, no rain, had almost 2.5 feet clarity in the MS RIVER! Was awesome, the catfish would bite at night and they were slap full of corn from where they loaded corn onto the barges, a few rains up north sent the reds back south though.
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Redfish or speckled trout? Do redfish have a higher tolerance to fresh water in respect of salinity being low from the top of the column to the bottom? |
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But that don't mean there are no Trout there. Just not as many as Reds. |
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Redfish can actually live in freshwater lakes they just cant spawn in freshwater
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I would think (I have only fished W's Lake ten times or so, so no expert) that the LNG canal would be plenty salty still after this rain. It is deep and sheltered from a large influx of freshwater, there is only that one little bayou that runs into it. Even when the main lake looks like hot chocolate after a big rainstorm, that canal is always clear. That is where I would be if I had to go this weekend to catch trout.
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Most "salties" can't reproduce in freshwater because it takes more energy for them to survive in freshwater.....same principle that allows bullsharks to live in freshwater, they adjust the amount of urea they excrete so that they do not absorb too much water....but, it takes more energy to do this, and that is why they generally can't reproduce in freshwater...its a lot of chemistry that I dont want to bore anyone with, but that would be my best explanation for the phenomenon...
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Please bore us with the chemistry. The audience here seeks to learn more about saltwater fish and the reproduction. |
I catch reds in grand lake when the water is as salty as toledo bend,don't bother them one bit. Trout are a lil more picky.
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Reds will not reproduce in freshwater
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This is good stuff, keep it comin.
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When I went fishin' in Lower Laguna Madre, an old salt down there said that the water gets so salty during a dry spring that the trout actually leave. I dunked one of my reels while wading and by the time I got home it was rusted up. That water is like battery acid.
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Big Burns is full of reds from Rita..my uncle has a camp in little Chenier and the 1st year they caught lots of under size reds now almost everything is keepers....those reds are not reproducing in Miami Corp...they will die out over years... Bull red has to have above 10ppt to reproduce
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No you see I am just the opposite of the redfish. I will reproduce in fresh water but it just burns too much in salt water!
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There is a reservoir around San Antonio that is stocked with reds. I worked on a few wells around there but never got a chance to check it out. Like people here said they don't spawn in the freshwater so the city stocks them.
Edit: calaveras lake and braunig lake. I guess it's the tpwd that stocks them http://www.fishtrips.com/2011freshwaterpictures1.html |
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