Duck Hunters BEWARE!!!!
 

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Hunters Beware!!!!!

I saw an ad by someone with the alias of Iota Mudslinger 65 booking guided duck and goose hunts on LA Sportsman AMgazine classifieds.

They have a picture of 2 young boys with some ducks. The ad states they have killed over 300 birds in the first split.

His GUIDE SERVICE IS: 'IF IT FLYS? IT DIES GUIDE SERVICE'.

Well I called Brett Chapman. We spoke and he indicated that 'THEY' had killed 19 out there blind YESTERDAY. Teal, Grays, and Pintail as well as a few geese.

I tell him I want to bring my firnds this weekend and want to check is operation out.

I booked a hunt for this morning and we were to meet at the Roankoe truck stop @ 5:30 AM.

5:30 came and went. 5;45 Came and went. I called him. No answer, went to voicemail.

Left message. 6 AM I'm leaving to go back home.

I get a call from him, that he had a blow out. He was 25 minutes away.

He get there and we drive another 20 minutes.

Pull up to a field at 6:45 AM after shooting hours starts.

He 's in under amour SHORTS. He puts on his hip boots and jacket and off we go.

I ask WERE is HIS Gun. He says he didn't bring it.

We walk about 1/2 mile to the blind NO Problem.

Get to the blind, the fast grass is rotten and CLEARLY WASN'T this years grass.

OLD, OLD shells all over. Some of the decoys were sunk and the water with trash in the blind was UP TO THE SEAT.

Now mind you, I've been hunting for over 48 yrs.

Brett who is probably 23-25 yrs old tells me NO PROBLEM, We'll just stand on the seat.

Did I mention there 's not cover around the blind , just some rotten fast grass laying on top of the blind.

Now I indicated to him that I've hunted alot longer than him, and It's obivous this blind didn't kill yesterday. HINT??? NO newly shot Empty shells among the other old shells. ROTTEN WATER UP TO WOODEN SEAT. TRASH.

He then said they he has 'GUIDES' working for him and they hunted it ! NOT HIM!!! 'THE AREN'T KEPPING THE BLINDS UP'......


Anywho 8 AM comes and WE HAVEN'T SEEN A DUCK. Saw some snows and a few specks.

I called the 'HUNT' over @ 8 am. NOW mind you we haven't hunted 1 hour, and 10 minutes.

We get back to the truck he indicated that I OWE HIM THE FULL PRICE OF $150 Dollars.

I pay the young man and leave. He did tell me he was sorry there was NO BIRDS.



I KNOW.......I should have turned around and left when I saw the condition of his BLIND.

But I wanted to give him a CHANCE!!!

SO I'd appreicate it, if Idon't get any GRIEF FROM MY FELLOW SC "FRIENDS" ??? PLEASE JUST SNICKER UNDER YOUR BREATH??? LMAO.


PLEASE DON'T BOOK A HUNT WITH THIS YOUNG MAN.

I really don't know if this blind was his or NOT......

He's a FRAUD!! DEFINITELY YOU WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM. JUST WANT TO SAVE YOU 'LL THE HEART ACHE.

Just another lesson learned.



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BIGGUN
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Damn I hate to hear that man! Sorry you got ripped!

wheeeeew..not even gonna comment...

I hate that it happened that way, but why in the world did you leave at 8:00? I would have stayed at least til noon (crappy spot or not)if you were paying that money, birds may have come in later, it was not a very 'ducky' day either yesterday. I have seen pretty ugly setups with hulls all over and look like a landfill but they consistently kill ducks. You can never predict live animals. We all live and learn though.

For the record, if I was to look for a guide and come across a guide service called 'if it flies it dies'! no sirree

I think i would have gave him $20 and been on my way...... I mean did you even fire a shot?

yup.. the kid would have learned a lesson-to collect up front.. I always though that if you scratched on a guided hunting or fishing trip, a partial refund shoul be given

I don't agree with that, you can not predict the weather or animals behavior. It was 80 degrees yesterday, not what I consider prime January duck hunting weather. I have used fishing guides in the past and IF you throw a bait in the water, then you pay, and I have no problem with that, never been an issue, its just business. The price is the price, whether or not he gets a tip is another issue. He provided a service and kept up on his end, minus being a little late. He had the choice right then to go or not, and decided to go, so he has to pay him

His Facebook account says his interests:

Being a ****!

I guess he's not lying.

sounds like you may know the "guide" he is talking about

Agreed..... but it was obvious that the guy was lying. You don't bring a client to a blind that is full of water and not brushed. I understand that he cannot control the birds, but as a guide it's his job to give you the best opportunity (situation) to kill birds.

Negative:)

You do have to admit that 'if it flies it dies guide service' should have been the first red flag. It automatically makes me think of a youngster that thinks he is some hardcore killer. But we haven't heard the whole story, maybe the 'sport' will get on here and set us straight:rotfl:

its sad that someone would act like they are a guide and bring someone on a Huntin, fishin or any other trip and not take time to manage their business better then this, how can you expected to make a living in the outdoors and treat them like that muchless bring a customer to a trash hole.

Iron Man's buddy??:rolleyes:

jmo...a guide is doing a job he knows regardlesss if its fishing, hunting, etc..to me the guy should have called the hunter an said conditions arent right and lets reschedule...to me credibility is worth more than a few birds or fish....my .02.

Didn't it rain a bunch the day before yesterday? You get what you pay for is all. Never ever get a guide with no references. There are plenty of people on here that are duck guides or know people to get in touch with. Lesson learned

There are THREE sides to ever story - the 2 opposing side, and then there is the truth. Y'all do remember a few weeks ago when one side of a story was that 'sport' came in and was shooting towards another blind and skybusting everything etc, etc. and everyone crucified him even wanted to throw ants in his blind! When he told his side of the story, it all changed, so...

No he just know a guided trip works. You don't pay for a limit. You pay for being able to show up and shoot. You should, however, show up to a clean, dry, and well concealed blind. There should not be any hulls on the ground. The decoys should be freshly placed. And the guide should do what he can to get the birds in.

There is no garuntee you will even shoot anytime you go hunting. Guided trip or not

What service did he provide? An unbrushed flooded blind that prob hasn't been hunted all year. His service was to provide ducks which he didn't. Not to mention he was late. Its like going eat at a restaurant and not getting any food but still pay... you got a table, so you owe em still, right?

If the weather wasnt right, the guide should have cancelled. Fishing guides do it all the time. Do guides even scout anymore?


I think a PARTIAL refund if they dont shoot one shot is fair. just my .02

It did rain the day before and was done by that afternoon. So me and my dad went to the blinds to bail and re grass because we had a guided trip the following morning. Unless it was raining the previous night through that morning, that is no excuse for a wet blind. The guide should have went before the hunt to bail the water out

Here is one of the biggest guides in Morehouse Parish, check out this setup (hulls, blind, etc). Looks like a craphole, but he kills em. I agree that the water should have been pumped out beforehand though. If it was my operation, it would be a LOT more classier than this, but its not

He provided a place to hunt is all. Some of my best duck hunts have been in 70 degree weather, so cancelling is not much of an option, its only duck season for 60 days unlike fishing 365 they can pick the best days to go. You can never tell if the birds are gonna be there, he said they killed 19 out of that blind the day before, and what can you do besides take his word for it. Very shady dealings but what can you expect? The moment he stepped out of his truck I would have said 'no thanks'!

Wow I want no part of being in a blind with that many people!

wow a 10 man blind???

bingo

Yeah its a crappy blind:rotfl: Dude stays booked up though. He usually brings 2 or 3 of his buddies with him as well. That would not fly really well with me, but he has been in business for many many years. His blind is 15 feet from the edge of the water:shaking: and the dang shells have been there for years, and its the worst brush job in the world, it amazes me he kills ducks

It did rain the day before and was done by that afternoon. So me and my dad went to the blinds to bail and re grass because we had a guided trip the following morning. Unless it was raining the previous night through that morning, that is no excuse for a wet blind. The guide should have went before the hunt to bail the water out


That's what a real guide does!!

I think patial discount just because the guy was late. Regardless of the excuse.

I am pretty sure the more honorable guides have a no kill or no catch, no pay rule. It is probably an unwritten rule, but is the right thing to do. Either that or they will have you come back another time. You will not burn bridges like that.

I was guided by Jim Shandly on Toledo Bend in April one time for Bass. Well, it snowed that day:spineyes:. We fished anyway and caught 3. I gave him a check that hasn't been cashed to this day. That's a good guy right there!


Question? did you tell the guide you were going to post this experience on the internet? Personally, I would have told him, that way he would have a chance to do you right, also understanding that if he didn't he would get a lot of bad publicity. It is also fair, that way he has a chance to post a rebuttal, and everyone gets both sides.

Anyway, thanks for telling your story of the substandard hunt. Everyone needs to know that there are some good guides and some not so good guides out there. You saved someone else from going through the same heartache if you posted this.

I have never heard of any operation that lets you get a refund if you dont kill . Its called hunting not killing. Like D said its all about how things are ran that brings customers back ,more so than limits killed.
If we all refunded money for bad hunts we would go broke ,especially at this point in the season when the hunting gets real tough.

my thing would be is this an everyday occurence and just claims to be a guide and everyday is tough or dont kill...bad business is told to 7 others by one person...good buss. doesnt..to me it means CYA..

I see a young kid with under armor shorts on and then the blind the way it was described and I'm out. Sorry you got screwed.

I wouldn't expect a refund even if we wouldn't fire a shot or catch a fish on a trip, but if he was that unprepared he would have known how unhappy I would have been and that I didn't think he deserved it. Hopefully it is a lesson learned for all involved, sorry about your trip. We all have bad days at work and this is what most of these guides do for a living.

as some have said, no guarantee to kill but if you do your business right and make a trip worth remembering people will still come back but if you pull crap as described you will get a bad rap and no future business.

Roger that

For shizzle:)

amen...and I believe that was biggun intentions with this post...and why a forum like ours is beneficial to an outdoorsman...lesson learned!!

i know who u are talking about and my buddy told me they killed 3 snows yesterday morning and seen no ducks at all.. and havent killed anything hardly at all past few weeks... i guess they will do anything to make money

Guys The Young man step out of the truck with a t-shirt and under-armour shorts on.

I POST ON THE SITE OFTEN AND I"M A REGULAR HERE....

He NEVER Pulled up his hip boots. NEVER went to move the speck decoys up wind. Never went out to get the sunken duck decoys. The water was STAGGENT in the blind. Must have been 20-30 plastic bottles in the blind.

Oh BTW It was THIS MORNING.. Good wind , nice and cool.

SOME OF YOU ARE RIGHT. I SHOULD HAVE LEFT when I saw the blind in that condition.

WE NEVER SAW ONE DUCK. THERE are very FEW GUYS on this site or Professional guides that can CALL SPECKS in my league.

I have the Gueydan DUCK FESTIVAL and LA state champion trophies to back it up.

My younger son is a 4 time duck festival and state champion.

I was a professional guide for over 20 years. I know what a blind SHOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU BRING PAYING CLIENTS.

I was there to CHECK OUT THE operation because I had several doctors and lawyers who wanted to hunt this weekend if it was an up and up operation

PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! IT WAS NOT. I can take any of you out to this blind and an let you look at it.

And if you come away saying there was ducks killed YESTERDAY in it I"LL KISS YOUR A-- ON CAMERA to BE PLACED ON THIS SITE.

If any of you doubt my speck calling experience. I ask you invite me to call for you in your blind and if I can't call I'll PAY YOU.

THE YOUNG GUY LIED. Plain and SIMPLE.

PS. He kept saying it was going to be GREAT FOR THE CONSERVATION SEASON.... HE WAS BOOKING ALOT OF HUNTS.

IF YOU BOOKED A HUNT WITH HIM DON"T GO..


I PAID THE YOUNG MAN. BUT I DID IT WITH CLENCHED TEETH.......



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Biggun

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When the blind had water up to seat....hunts over....shells still on ground hunts over......if your that lazy and don't pick up your shells or bail blind......your not a hunter....

That was great.....Hell hath no fury like a duck hunter scorned. I actually have a couple of buddies from Iota I might be able to get the low down on Mr. Chapman from.

I have speck calling trophies but I will be the first to say those competitions don't mean jack ****. Competition calling and goose calling are 2 completely different animals.

Just sayin...

My little brother hunted with Chapman before on my parents property for duck season end of 2010- beginning of 2011. They don't hunt together anymore is all I am going to say, I have had no dealings with the guy personally.

Man I was with Eric Rue's crew earlier this year and they were SPONGING out the blind that morning......we did not kill a limit, far from it, but I'll be sure to get back with them.
The blind was spotless, the guy was neurotic about the cover and made no excuses.

It was a great hunt.

That is what you expect period, nothing less.
I have had horrible guided hunts. If fact I have NEVER killed a limit WITH a guide! LOL

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I'm WASN'T asking for anyone to FEEL SORRY FOR ME. I"M A BIG BOY!!! I PAID OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF MY HEART. IT WAS OBVIOUS THE YOUNG MAN NEEDED THE MONEY........

I was JUST FYI-ing EVERYONE....... AS a FORMER GUIDE! IF ANYONE WASN'T happy with my services, YOU'RE COMING BACK FOR FREEEEE !! PERIOD!!!! OR HALF PRICE.

RULE #1: If your trying to build a BUSINESS , YOU DON'T LIE TO PEOPLE!!!

RULE #2: As for as GUIDING is concerned: If you're trying to build your client base up. YOU BRING YOUR CLIENTS TO A BLIND THAT IS WELL BUSHED & CLEAN AND DRY INSIDE.

I always offered bottled water, and snacks to my customers. NO EXTRA CHARGE. MY BLIND FLOOR WAS SWEEP AFTER EVERY HUNT. PERIOD.

YOU COULD COME IN CHURCH CLOTHES IN MY BLIND. and WE KILLED.

OH yes I know some of you are guides. It's EXPENSIVE TO HUNT PERIOD.

I USED TO SPEND EASILY 7-8 K during duck and goose season for me personnally. I don't hunt as much as I'd like to NOW. BOTH MY SONS ARE GROWN, and don't hunt as much BECAUSE THEY HAVE WIFES TO ANSWER TOO.

Placing and working a 1500 snow, blue, and speck decoy spread was work. Years ago I had friends, and my sons and there friends to help work the spread.

My sunken blind was well bushed EVERYDAY. Especially if I had clients. EVERYTHING( SHELLS, BOTTLES, SHEEL BOXES) was PICKED UP.

I was raised by an awesome dad, who died when I was 10. But he taught me to leave OTHER PEOPLES LAND, SPOT, Blind ETC. Better than you found it.

If you where invited to someone camp. I was raised to always offer help and WORK FOR MY INVITATION. AS in just get up and start to wash dishes, sweep or mop floor before we leave after the hunt. Put out the trash. Help or offer to cut bush?? ETC ETC. Just to name a few examples...

I'm not thumping my chest and patting myself on the back by any means. IF I WAS? WHY on earth would I post this.

I asked that everyone just snicker under there breath and not give me ANY GRIEF.

I didn't or don't want anybody else to be taken.

Thanks

Gunner

Gunner thanks for posting about your encounter,and for making others aware of the situation. We are here to help each other out .

As a guide I would have never taken a customer to a blind in that condition .I will say I dont always pick up my hulls after each hunt and I dont consider that a deal breaker. The blind full of water and no brush is a different story .

Once again I will say thanks for bringing this guy and his operation to light for everyone.

I have heard nothing but good things about his outfit. If someone asks me about a duck hunt or a duck/goose hunt combo, I refer them to him. Never met the guy and I wouldn't know him if I was standing right next to him, but I heard he runs a great service and I know he has a lot of good blinds

He didnt bring his gun because he isnt allowed to have a gun...that boy is crazy, he doesnt need the money his daddy got enough..He got in trouble with the law a while back for shooting a CO2 bb pistol into the Iota high school parking lot after a football game..I think he is only about 17-18 years old..That boy was sitting on a gold mine when his dad got him that blind. They did kill plenty birds on the first teal split but then nothing after that..He doesnt have enough "cents" to run a guide service. When I first met him I thought he was a pretty cool cat but after being around him enough Ive learned what kind of person he really is..Could have saved you the trouble if you would have asked about it before you went!!

The difference is Eric rue hunts are around $600 dollars, this hunt was $150. You don't buy a Kia and then complain when it doesn't drive like a Ferrari...

Does the fact that he's young play a role in yall disliking the guy.... Just curious..

I have no idea who he is and I hate him cuz he's young!

Lol


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