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Duck Butter 09-28-2011 08:05 PM

Effects of Oil Spill Study
 
One of the first studies to come out about the effects of the oil spill (don't shoot the messenger:grinpimp:). Killifish = Cocahoe Minnow

http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.js...WT.mc_ev=click

fishinpox 09-28-2011 08:08 PM

my friend and salty cajun member BIOID did this study and published this in the american medical journal as a co-author

"W" 09-28-2011 08:12 PM

LMAO....yea ok...and how come after Hurricane Rita when our marshes were full of oil..our stuff is not dead. Will not evem read that dumb crap

capt coonassty 09-28-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329193)
LMAO....yea ok...and how come after Hurricane Rita when our marshes were full of oil..our stuff is not dead. Will not evem read that dumb crap

These essential fish just like our marshes are very resilient. Not all oil spill research shows that its the end of the world. As a member of a similar project at LSU I can say that these people aren't out to end drilling or blame all oilfield work just because of what happened. Researchers just want to know what kind of effects are happening to our coast and its creatures. Some of the same people who are doing this kind of research at LSU are also trying to create a commercial aquaculture market for these same fish.

At least read the article before you bash it.

PUREBAY2200 09-28-2011 10:28 PM

Good read, more info will come in the future.
Only time will tell.

Dink 09-28-2011 11:10 PM

And so it begins again.......

Montauk17 09-28-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 329275)
And so it begins again.......

Can you be a lil more specific? :work:

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 07:33 AM

It was a great study it seems, not biased in anyway either, unlike many of the studies that come out on climate change

"W" 09-29-2011 07:59 AM

Oil is from the earth...millions and millions of bbls seep out of the ground on one year

muttmechanic 09-29-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329312)
Oil is from the earth...millions and millions of bbls seep out of the ground on one year

There's also microbes that can process that oil, but when they're used to processing drops per gallons on a typical basis and you give them a dump truck load its kinda hard to catch up. If you seriously don't think that oil does anything to water or water quality, go put crude oil into your water and we'll see how long you last. The scientists aren't out to kill the oil industry. Most of them drive cars too. Just because you are a scientist doesn't make you some earth loving, hug a tree hippy that doesn't want oil.

"W" 09-29-2011 10:50 AM

You ever noticed ..where are the Study s of this Dumb crap before the spill?????? I guess if you look hard enough you can find that Oil killed off the Dinosaurs....T-Rex just ate a smaller dinosaur that just drank 2 bbls of oil...that started to the extinction of the species... And then the Doo Doo Bird was laying eggs in a are where oil cane to the surface....you know the Rest of the Story!

muttmechanic 09-29-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329415)
You ever noticed ..where are the Study s of this Dumb crap before the spill?????? I guess if you look hard enough you can find that Oil killed off the Dinosaurs....T-Rex just ate a smaller dinosaur that just drank 2 bbls of oil...that started to the extinction of the species... And then the Doo Doo Bird was laying eggs in a are where oil cane to the surface....you know the Rest of the Story!

Do you ever stop and listen to yourself every once in a while? If you did. You'd probably realize that every orifice in your body spews ignorance.

"W" 09-29-2011 12:26 PM

U Mad

DUCKGOGETTER 09-29-2011 12:34 PM

Not today guys i need to get something done at work

southern151 09-29-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by muttmechanic (Post 329464)
Do you ever stop and listen to yourself every once in a while? If you did. You'd probably realize that every orifice in your body spews ignorance.

No, he doesn't.:shaking:

"W" 09-29-2011 12:48 PM

People like this Duck are trying to make a point about an oil spill,,, Do any of you who don't work offshore know just how much oil goes in the water?????? Do u know how many platforms were lost in hurricanes??? But yet you eat the fish.....shrimp....crabs that come from this water.....do you know how many suwer lines run into lakes? Go

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 12:56 PM

its just one little study about cocahoe minnows, dang "w", just read the thing, shouldn't take you that long only a page or so:eek:

You are correct, oil seeps up all the time, and there is bacteria that CAN process oil. They also process other materials, they would not last very long if all they did was eat oil, because there is not enough of it seeping out every single day:shaking:. The bacteria can not consume all that oil that was leaked, there just isn't enough of them to do that. Do you really think there are an unlimited supply of oil-eating bacteria just out there starving to death waiting around for some oil to spill:shaking:.

Oil is good by the way:grinpimp:

"W" 09-29-2011 12:59 PM

People like this Duck are trying to make a point about an oil spill,,, Do any of you who don't work offshore know just how much oil goes in the water?????? Do u know how many platforms were lost in hurricanes??? But yet you eat the fish.....shrimp....crabs that come from this water.....do you know how many suwer lines run into lakes? Go

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329482)
People like this Duck are trying to make a point about an oil spill,,, Do any of you who don't work offshore know just how much oil goes in the water?????? Do u know how many platforms were lost in hurricanes??? But yet you eat the fish.....shrimp....crabs that come from this water.....do you know how many suwer lines run into lakes? Go

People like me? :shaking:

Platforms lost during hurricanes? it doesn't matter, they are capped


Point is it is a very big ocean, the gulf can handle small spills, and we will recover from this one BUT it ain't over "W", remove your head from...:grinpimp:

"W" 09-29-2011 01:13 PM

Its Over!!!! And the gulf has 100000000000Xs the bacteria to eat what came off that spill...only thing that died was a few stupid birds....and if you killed every signal bird on the gulf coast 5 miles wide ...you would wake up the next day and never notice

PUREBAY2200 09-29-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329486)
Its Over!!!! And the gulf has 100000000000Xs the bacteria to eat what came off that spill...only thing that died was a few stupid birds....and if you killed every signal bird on the gulf coast 5 miles wide ...you would wake up the next day and never notice

Actually you would notice.... All the birds are gone... Cause they were all killed..... So there are no birds.... So u would notice there are no birds.....

Wanna make another great statement??

Montauk17 09-29-2011 01:19 PM

Wow....that's all I can say

southern151 09-29-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 329490)
Actually you would notice.... All the birds are gone... Cause they were all killed..... So there are no birds.... So u would notice there are no birds.....

Wanna make another great statement??

I'm sure he has plenty more where that came from!:rotfl::rolleyes:

"W" 09-29-2011 01:20 PM

You would not even knock a dent in the bird population if you killed off the gulf coast ..5miles wide...the birds out of the 5 miles would move in and be just as thick.....I wish it would of killed about one million sea gulls....we have 10 million in the gulf alone

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329498)
You would not even knock a dent in the bird population if you killed off the gulf coast ..5miles wide...the birds out of the 5 miles would move in and be just as thick.....I wish it would of killed about one million sea gulls....we have 10 million in the gulf alone

How would you ever know where to fish without gulls:grinpimp:

"W" 09-29-2011 01:23 PM

I wonder what the effects are from too much Sun????? Too much alcohol??? Too much food???? Too much cocaine???to much sleep???? Too much crystal meth????? I'm sure the Cocaine minnows are asking these same questions

PUREBAY2200 09-29-2011 01:24 PM

He's gotta b sore from pullin all this outta his azz....... His a-hole is so worn out when he walks random bs just falls out!!

W do u think thru these statements or is it literally random words & thoughts ??

Like thrown **** on a wall a hoping nobody notices it's **** & they think it's abstract brilliant design!?

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 329503)
He's gotta b sore from pullin all this outta his azz....... His a-hole is so worn out when he walks random bs just falls out!!

W do u think thru these statements or is it literally random words & thoughts ??

Like thrown **** on a wall a hoping nobody notices it's **** & they think it's abstract brilliant design!?


I think that ...





















"W" = Iron Man :grinpimp:

Montauk17 09-29-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 329503)
He's gotta b sore from pullin all this outta his azz....... His a-hole is so worn out when he walks random bs just falls out!!

W do u think thru these statements or is it literally random words & thoughts ??

Like thrown **** on a wall a hoping nobody notices it's **** & they think it's abstract brilliant design!?

LMAO tru dat

SULPHITE 09-29-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329502)
I wonder what the effects are from too much Sun????? Too much alcohol??? Too much food???? Too much cocaine???to much sleep???? Too much crystal meth????? I'm sure the Cocaine minnows are asking these same questions


sounds like a vegas weekend!!!! :rotfl:

"W" 09-29-2011 01:29 PM

No...just that this Oil spill is over!!! People need to move on and stop looking for a hand out ! I live half my life face to face with oil....have it on my hands everyday I'm working....Never been sick....never had noise bleeds...never was light headed....amazing only people with 3 teeth and no income have these problems....carry on!

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 01:31 PM

If someone poured a quart of oil into Big Lake 'W' would be the first one screaming on here.

No one is bashing any oil companies here, just showing effects of oil on cocahoe minnows, that is it. Read it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The single things are called 'letters', they come together to form a 'word', words are often put together to form a 'sentence', mulitple sentences = a 'paragraph'. :rotfl:

Montauk17 09-29-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329510)
No...just that this Oil spill is over!!! People need to move on and stop looking for a hand out ! I live half my life face to face with oil....have it on my hands everyday I'm working....Never been sick....never had noise bleeds...never was light headed....amazing only people with 3 teeth and no income have these problems....carry on!

LMAO millions of gallons of oil sitting on the ocean bed is way different than getting oil on your hands.Nobody knows what the long term affects will be on the aquatics. LOL!!!!! :help:

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329510)
No...just that this Oil spill is over!!! People need to move on and stop looking for a hand out ! I live half my life face to face with oil....have it on my hands everyday I'm working....Never been sick....never had noise bleeds...never was light headed....amazing only people with 3 teeth and no income have these problems....carry on!


what about stunted growth!

fishinpox 09-29-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329415)
You ever noticed ..where are the Study s of this Dumb crap before the spill?????? I guess if you look hard enough you can find that Oil killed off the Dinosaurs....T-Rex just ate a smaller dinosaur that just drank 2 bbls of oil...that started to the extinction of the species... And then the Doo Doo Bird was laying eggs in a are where oil cane to the surface....you know the Rest of the Story!

Ben, the co-author got his Phd studying killifish ! That was all done pre oil spill !!! Dude knows cocahoes inside and out! He ain't here to kill oil industry but does want to make sure our fisheries are safe!

"W" 09-29-2011 01:38 PM

Montauk...that shows how much. U know about oil.....1 million gallons of oil in 100000000000000 quadtrillon gallons of water . Equals one cc in a olympic size swimming pool..... One gallon of oil will make a slick up to 5 miles long.....try again

muttmechanic 09-29-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329477)
People like this Duck are trying to make a point about an oil spill,,, Do any of you who don't work offshore know just how much oil goes in the water?????? Do u know how many platforms were lost in hurricanes??? But yet you eat the fish.....shrimp....crabs that come from this water.....do you know how many suwer lines run into lakes? Go

People like this actually tend to know what they talk about before they open their mouth. Do you know how many platforms have been lost in hurricanes? No you don't, unless you go look up some figure to post on here. But I do know there is plenty of oil that comes up through the floor of the sea. They're called petroleum seeps. I'm sure some gets released when hurricanes knock over rigs and it breaks pipes and some contaminates the water. In the grand scheme of things a few thousand foot long pipe isn't that bad when it is spread across the entire gulf as long as that pipe doesn't keep dumping millions of gallons into the water. Yes, I do eat the fish, shrimp, crabs, and oysters that come from this water because ONCE AGAIN in small amounts the oil isn't harmful because there are natural microbes that biodegrade it. Actually, you'd be surprised at how many sewer lines deposit into water that we drink. Think about it. Most of the east side of the U.S. is drained through the Mississippi. I don't think the northeast holds back their sewage so that New Orleans can drink it. They discovered this revolutionary thing in the 1800s called chlorination and filtration that kills most pathogens so we can drink water.

Montauk17 09-29-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329518)
Montauk...that shows how much. U know about oil.....1 million gallons of oil in 100000000000000 quadtrillon gallons of water . Equals one cc in a olympic size swimming pool..... One gallon of oil will make a slick up to 5 miles long.....try again

Dis dude things he knows everything just because he works in the oilfield. Try again :p

SULPHITE 09-29-2011 01:42 PM

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eman 09-29-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 329503)
He's gotta b sore from pullin all this outta his azz....... His a-hole is so worn out when he walks random bs just falls out!!

W do u think thru these statements or is it literally random words & thoughts ??

Like thrown **** on a wall a hoping nobody notices it's **** & they think it's abstract brilliant design!?

Kinda like someone else we all Know???
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...fSsBYSkRXpO5ux

PUREBAY2200 09-29-2011 02:02 PM

W still mad he wasn't given the opportunity to represent the oil companies on the floor of congress......
But he did have a blog y'all may find interesting.

Here us link.
Bigwords/smallpeople/oilspill/effect.com

:)

The Sportsman 09-29-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 329481)
Do you really think there are an unlimited supply of oil-eating bacteria just out there starving to death waiting around for some oil to spill:shaking:.

actually bacteria are opportunistic pathogens... if you have ever studied a bacterial growth curve you would notice a trend of growth directly proportional to its environment in which it thrives.

The Sportsman 09-29-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 329477)
do you know how many SEWER lines run into lakes? Go

FIFY

actually sewer lines will not affect our ecosystem in South Louisiana because they are designed to breakdown the components in the sewer lines. a cypress swamp and marsh can do wonders compared to a sewer treatment facility.


a lot of fail going on in this thread... very uneducated people talking on topics they know nothing about

SaltERedneck 09-29-2011 02:32 PM

YIKES

SULPHITE 09-29-2011 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sportsman (Post 329540)
1 very uneducated person talking on topics they know nothing about


The Sportsman 09-29-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 329544)
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well.. both of their arguments are flawed... oil "eating" microbes have increased exponentially over the past year and a half and swamps/marsh is natures own sewer treatment facility which is actually more efficient than the ones humans have made.

IMO, the oil is still out there. I have my reasons... what this study fails to mention is the unusual amount of FRESHWATER that was introduced into the ecosystem this year... that along with the extremely cold winter of the past two years can be having an effect the shell fish and other fishes in the ecosystem.. independent of the oil itself. do i think it is related. SURE. what to what extent... probably not as significant as the study shows...

one thing is certain about scientists these days... they all want to get published and they all want to win awards to recognize their accomplishments... which leads to premature conclusions and error

specknation 09-29-2011 02:52 PM

I think shrimp pooboys taste better with a little Bp oil in my shrimp. Just my 2 cents

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sportsman (Post 329550)
well.. both of their arguments are flawed... oil "eating" microbes have increased exponentially over the past year and a half and swamps/marsh is natures own sewer treatment facility which is actually more efficient than the ones humans have made.

They can increase exponentially in two days time. Just because something CAN break down a substance, doesn't mean that is all they consume. Trees take up CO2, but what people fail to realize is that they also give off some CO2, they are not some huge CO2 'sponge'. These are not some science fiction bacteria that just engulf a gallon of substance a day, there simply is not enough of them to do the job, and after the dispersant was added, that likely changed the composition of the oil and the bacteria will not consume that.

The Sportsman 09-29-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 329568)
They can increase exponentially in two days time. Just because something CAN break down a substance, doesn't mean that is all they consume. Trees take up CO2, but what people fail to realize is that they also give off some CO2, they are not some huge CO2 'sponge'. These are not some science fiction bacteria that just engulf a gallon of substance a day, there simply is not enough of them to do the job, and after the dispersant was added, that likely changed the composition of the oil and the bacteria will not consume that.

trees are a terrible thing to relate to a bacterial growth curve. HOWEVER, your latter statement does hold some substance... which is one of the reasons why i said i believe it is still out there.

fwiw, bacteria can increase exponentially over a VERY LONG period of time.. as long as their environment supports it... you are relating a bacterial growth curve in regards to humans... sure after 2 days, their environment is no longer favorable because the body is fighting against it. (its usually longer than 2 days though.. you just think its 2 days because that is at the height of your symptoms when your body is already fighting it off.. of course its species dependent)

Duck Butter 09-29-2011 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sportsman (Post 329572)
trees are a terrible thing to relate to a bacterial growth curve. HOWEVER, your latter statement does hold some substance... which is one of the reasons why i said i believe it is still out there.

Just saying that trees are not CO2 sponges nor are bacteria oil sponges, nothing about growth curves. Exponential can be one bacteria turning into 2 bacteria, 2 into 4, also, not necessarily 10^150,000!

I also believe its still out there and the bottom of the sea floor is a cold place, not beneficial to most bacteria, so maybe it will sit there and nothing will ever come of it, lets hope:)

"W" if you want to go see oil STILL in the marsh there are places still impacted and a few people can point you in the right direction


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