Guide question
 

What does general public think about when u lose a guides rod and reel that they didn't rent? Trying to see if I was coming cross as an a$$ or what? Do they think bc they bought a trip they r allowed to break stuff etc how do u handle it. I was so mad I was bout to explode 3rd rod and reel lost in a month.. Didn't say anything bout last 2 but this one was 400$ combo I told the guy he just bought it and he didnt wanna pay I explained to the guy this is how I make my living I can't be fishing and lose money he eventually paid but wasn't happy

I think they should replace what they lose/break. No question!

EVO

I would make anyone who isn't bringing their own gear rent mine. Seems fair enough. If ya don't do that and gear breaks, that's a gray area that's very easy for a client to argue. If they lose it, its a whole different deal.
Rent it out so, when these things come about, at least you have been getting a return on your investments.

Just my opinion.

X2 use your own rods or pay the price if you break someone else's.

Cost of business my friend, let it go . If dude smacked it on the hull out of anger then yes he bought it, but accidents happen and why in hell did u let a client use a 400$ combo?

Jared, when I was guiding, I put "floaties" on the spinning tackle my customers used.

They did not use my baitcasting stuff unless I knew them well.

I didn't I have client rods and I show them which ones they can use and when I was on deck he grabbed mine and went to cast it and splash in the water I dove in 4 it in for 20 min drug anchor crankbait jig etc trying to get it wouldn't have cared if it was one of 150 combo but he had no biz touching that 1

Where can I get those never seen em do they get in way?

Simple do like the Big Guide outfits....Charge for every rod used

Don't ever let them use a $400 rod combo...that's the 1st mistake

But simple all star or Falcon rods with a cheaper shimano reel...

Have a bunch of spin cast....

That way if you have 4 rods rented that day...its $60 bucks....and if you go 3 trips with out losing or braking one your good....and if they lose one its covered

I don't let my wife use my rod and reels

Waterloo + core set ups =700

i wouldnt let people use my good combos either but in that case he took it upon hiself to use a rod he wasnt supposed to. Thats his fault and you are not wrong for making him pay.

They are a little big and take some getting used to.

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Check out the link for some reviews

You breaky, you buy. I dont have anything worth allot to many people but worth allot to me so no one uses my stuff unless they can replace, I have talked to friends that go on guided trips and they say they only rent inexpensive spin cast or you can bring your own nice stuff.

George threw your pole in the water???

Agree here. I am always leary to borrow someones gear just because I don't want to be the one to break it or have something go wrong. Now if its a shimano rod, I aint so worried if it breaks.

I think normal wear and tear, including rod breakage, would be on you and covered under the trip. Now losing a rod/reel is a different story and wouldn't constitute "normal"…so yeah, they should pay.

dont rent the rod and reels, if they use your rod and reels make them pay a deposit up front. If they grab your rod and reel without permission and lose it, he definately pays or swims back to the dock!!! I believe if you rent a rod and reel you will lose clients, if you charge a deposit they will bring thier own or know where they stand if they lose it.

Tough situation. You may have made a good call but I guarantee that nobody on that boat will ever use your service again and they will bad mouth you to everyone they know and tell them not to use you either. Maybe should have bit the bullet, you still have a business to run.

Just and FYI, renting rods to clients is very common. Most guides carry 3 or 4 spinning combos just for this reason.

When I was guiding, I bought 4 Shimano spinning combos from Academy for about $40. Charged $10 a day rental. Paid for themselves in about 3 weeks.

No not George guy today

It wasn't my clients I was guiding 4 sum1 else if it was my client I could have ate it and w tip still coulda made money I was guiding 4 sum1 else today and was only gettin paid 300 had no choice on renting en wasn't my trip

I have higher end shimano rods and don't mind them using then bc lifetime warranty but losing em in water I can't exchange those

Where the hell was that last week! You needed one of those :)

;);););)

Actually, Oh never mind....

Jared, man that happens more than people think. You can't keep an eye on them 100% of the time and it is never a good subject. Usually if they don't bring there own equipment they are going to be spoons. If you talk to the camp that booked you and let them handle it as a 3rd party it sometimes helps but no guaranties. Most camp owners will try to help you out on something like that to avoid a conflict on the boat. I feel your pain! If you ignore it you fished that day for free.

Breakage i wouldn't charge for, But as a client if I let one go overboard I should pay for it. I would pay a deposit on R&R as long as it was just for loss and not breakage.

Yea broke rods I can exchange no prob but I can't return something I can't find

Lol! Yeah, I've tried that with my Snap-On tool rep a few times and have yet to get him to warranty lost equip!

Thanks! :rolleyes:

I'm with eman if I let one go I would have to pay for the replacement.

I think someone has a story to tell ??

Not trying to hijack tha thread but Weedwacker lost my ice chest a few fishing trips back. Is he responsible for replacing it. :smokin:


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Not me but I was on the boat! :eek:

I see , well you gonna spill the beans ?

Not me.... Nope!

Ok then

I did step on a rod and bend a guide though, and yes it was one of his.:eek:

start carrying some cheap poles and a shimano citica or a ugly stik combo a little heavy but durable and cheap. leave your $400 combos at home and when someone who doesn't appreciate what you have loses something it won't cost you or them a headache or a bad rep!

Seen a couple guides cut a pool noodle and put it on the rods near the reel. But the one that I did lose, I paid out 300$ 2 days later for a new rod and reel. Only bad thing with the noodle idea is people try and take them off.

Idea! They make a inflatable lifejacket for your keys...put one on a rod. Water pressure I guess sets it off. Might have to try that this week.

LMAO lifejacket on a rod,what u smokin' kid? :rotfl: :shaking:

Marlboro Gold Pack.

It looks like a little key fob. I'll try it this week in the pool. And if it works, you'll be the laughing stock of me.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Davis...h-All+Products

Only flaw in my idea is it can only float 2.8 ounces. 8 or 9 should do.

give em ugly sticks with a zebco 33. the guide puts u on fish then u can catch them on the junkiest equipment all day

I understand them losing the cheap rods but no one should expect YOU to use cheap rods. As I understand the thread, the sports picked up the guide rods and lost it. How do you justify someone picking up something that isn't his nor did he have permission to use it and not wanting to claim responsability? Major problem! No one wants to be responsable for there own actions.

That abt sums it up....have seen this handled both ways by sports....some feel horrible and insist on covering your loss. But some...."JEEEZZ" is all I can say!! I mean breakage happens and can be replaced under warranty...but lost equipment is a different story....

Word...... You break it I fix it, you lose it I drown you!

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Here is a link to some rod floaters, to me they tend to get in the way but if it saves your rod ....

Im wit you Kade.

you should make your expectations know up front so there is no question....some peple dont think the way we do. I agree that it should be replaced but some type of agreement should be upfront to save you the backend headache.

TB