I will Prove why More Boats = Less Fish
 

Here is what I do know and can prove why the more boats we have on the water = way less trout caught

Its not that the fish are not their , its that they are spooked away and removed from their normal living

This drawing is of real life scene I see almost every Sat or Sun I fish...and NO one likes to fish weekend but everyone does... I have seen this 100 times played over and over

Take the Birds out of fishing and this is what you have

#1 7- Main Reefs that everyone know (even Pilgrims)
#2 15-16 Reefs that most all guides know and regular fisherman
#3 7-8 Reefs that very few know about and are real low key

Here is a breakdown of ones who fish weekends by %(no birds just reef fishing)

#1 85%
#2 14%
#3 less than 1%

Look at this drawing....Now this reef is holding fish...has been all week and the 3 guide boats have limited out 4 days in a row each with 60 trout by 11am

Ok...Here is what happens Sat...Will use Commissary Pt for example

3 guys fish with a guide on Thur...They go back to work on Fri and tell everyone they hammered the fish on Commissary point.

5 Boats see them catching fish on Thur and 7 see them catching fish on Fri and they all taking to there buddy and say..We saw some guide boats on commissary hammering the fish...

Then someone says this to someone else and by Sat morning you have your 1st wave to Commissary point.....

So the Guide Boats set up on the valley that runs thought the reef like the last few days and start catching fish

Well the 1st wave of boats start to see them so they start trolling closer and picking up a trout here and there as they drift or troll around

Then about 8:30 the pilgrims cant find any birds and the weirs are all full so they see a crap load of boats on Commissary point and think thats where its at...... So they start motoring in and other are cutting them off while everyone watches these 3 boats catch fish.....

Now that all the fish on the reef are spooked by motors running ,lids slamming, trolling up wind while boat slaps water, trolling wide open and anchors getting slung 15feet...

Yet 3 boats seem to be the only ones who are still pulling in a fish are two.....So now all the boats start to squeeze on the boats and then eventually spook all the fish out.

Now the guide knows the fish are not far and probably just moved off the reef or to the edge but knows it pointless to fish this area anymore

So all the boats at 9am have 30-35 trout..... Which is half of what they would of caught any other day....
So then they have to pick and pick to try to fill the limit or come in short!

This is a proven FACT that boats will breed boats and kill the trout bite almost 100% on weekends for the best of the best!

Now most are good enough to go find fish else where and catch but its not long before they are spotted by a Pilgrim and the Pilgrims thinks he has discovered new land and he is right back trolling up wind, slamming lids, running big motor, tossing anchor and thinking what is that guy doing im not...:confused::confused::confused::confused:

So on weekend I truly believe there is at least 50% less trout caught per boat than mon-Fri... And Fri is almost getting as bad as Sat.

Thats about rite! Same here on the east side!

I don't like fishing big reefs until it gets colder.
Summer time weekends sux.

Nice breakdown "W"

The only place I did not see trout get spooked as much was Lake P. and I belive it was due to the depth of water (deeper water), but let one unique individual come plowing in with a record setting Olympic Danforth anchor toss, and it was time to move on! Its got a lot to do with the lack of common sense and or intellegence I try to be as quiet in my boat as when I'm deer hunting. It always makes me wander why the guys with the latest hip hop tune blaring at 6 A.M. and all day only comes back with a handfull of fish on a promising day.

Yes lake P is 13 to 15 ft of water.... Big Lake is 3 to 5f....and when the spill was going on...we got every T-TOP lake P had to offer with no trolling motor and would motor right up to you and toss the anchor as far as possible

I was on fish and this one T-TOP with Duel 250 blew in threw his anchor and started grabbing shrimp... I was so pissed off...My veins were 3inch out my neck.... I drove up to this boat and ask what the hell was that....he looked clueless and said..Im just getting set up to fish.... .I said I see that but why did you just drive up here and spook all the fish out and then toss your damn anchor????? I told him this is 4ft of *&*#&&##*#*# water.... he said well Lake p we dont use Trolling motors....... I said in the most pissed off voice I had....THIS IS NOT LAKE P...ITS BIG LAKE...SO LEARN IT OR LEAVE BUT DONT COME HERE AND MESS MY FISHING UP BECAUSE YOUR A PILGRIM and wrapped 5 doughnuts and left:D

I like your thinking.

Sounds like you were MAAAAAAAAAD!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

5 donuts?? Poo yi!! Das mad for sure. I can relate, I got vein poppin mad at least once per trip.

Very nice layout and all facts! I fish Mon-Fri. and save sat and sun for getting work done around the house and what not, its flippin ridiculous on the weekend.

Your logic sounds about right actually.

I agree with W

No Fridays are as bad as Sat and Sun!

one small error on your drawing "w" you dont have the second wave pilgrims close enuf to the guide boats:*****::*****:

I have thought about just tying off to you guys, it would be easier for me.:)

Dat der fella W knows what he's talking about. I purposely hooked my bait on my gunnel of my boat just to see if boats were rubbernecking. I acted like I was fighting a fish and low and behold, these Pilgrims slowed down and started pointing at us. Point is, 70% of the fisherman don't have a clue and see boats anchored and say, "Let's fish there. That boat just caught a fish."

You can just come in downwind plowing and tie right up to me chief.

on Sat I would say 90%,,,,, We did the same thing last Sat..I had some of our Ohio guys we hunt with.... Me and Eric told them about how bad it would be Sat...It was not really that bad until 8 or 9..I guess they must of had some birds working long enough to keep them away for a few hours...We left it was dark...

But We pulled up to a spot on the west side...never fished it just saw some birds setting their 2 days in a row ..So i marked it

I went to drift Sat just to see if trout were holding and with in 10mins i had 3 boats stop and look and one come troll in.....I never set the hook:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

You'd be surprised how many times we are catching fish on one of those "smaller" reefs and see someone stop, how we pull up anchor and troll off, then come back and blow it out. 90% is pretty accurate.

and if you dont know the meaning of Pilgrim by now....all I can tell you is look in the mirror.....

I GOTTA SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST DIAGRAMS I HAVE EVER SEEN COME OUT OF THE STOCK PAINT PROGRAM ON YOUR CONPUTER.....u should do one for lake p just make a bridge in the middle with 3 boats tied off to every leg...and some boats in the middle trolling...

I'm gonna take some pictures next week from Grand Isle that will blow your mind.
Big Lake fishermen can't comprehend Potlicking till they see what goes on over toward the East.

I would have 2 see that... I fished in grand isle about 4 years ago and we waxed the 12 inch trout to death...and never got close to a boat...we were at Some island

pilgrim means rookie am i correct? lol i know what yall feel like cux i went there a month ago and it was my first time ever fishing in big lake. i launched out of dugas boat landing and had no clue where to go so and what was bad abt that day was the wind picked up so bad out of the blue from the north and waves started to get choppy so i tried to fish in the ship channel cux i didnt even know where to go. i even only have a 16 foot boat but wanted to catch me some speckle trouts so badly end up catching only two near the rocks in the ship channel, and when i caught those two specks 6 boats came out of no where and pulled up around me and throwing in their anchor and i caught nothing so i end up having a worse day for a frist timer fishing big lake... wish i could go back and learn more of where i can fish for specks with my 16 foot boat.

Sounds like your are a marked man W by the pilgrim nation. It's probably all your Texas podnuhs.

I understand your theory for sure.

pilgrim means rookie am i correct? lol i know what yall feel like cux i went there a month ago and it was my first time ever fishing in big lake. i launched out of dugas boat landing and had no clue where to go so and what was bad abt that day was the wind picked up so bad out of the blue from the north and waves started to get choppy so i tried to fish in the ship channel cux i didnt even know where to go. i even only have a 16 foot boat but wanted to catch me some speckle trouts so badly end up catching only two near the rocks in the ship channel, and when i caught those two specks 6 boats came out of no where and pulled up around me and throwing in their anchor and i caught nothing so i end up having a worse day for a frist timer fishing big lake... wish i could go back and learn more of where i can fish for specks with my 16 foot boat.

If I'm fishing and get a hit when a boat is passing close by I don't even set the hook. If they see you catch one its over.

They have Pilgrims who have been fishing Big Lake for 20 years.... And limited out on trout 6 times in 20years.... I meet that guy...he said he just looks for boats...... Josh also meet a guy who said he just buys a bunch of shrimp and looks for boats catching trout , then he goes next to them, because they don't own that spot of the lake and he can fish their!!! This is real people

That's no lie I do the same shat haha

I had a guide boat move in on us the other day. We were the only ones on this small reef and I guess this was one of his spots. Half way through my drift he anchors up upwind about 100 yards and started live shrimpin. Didn't mess me up. Just messed up the chances of me makin another drift.

If boats role up on you I learned buying a c murder CD for. 99 at a gas station as a joke for a buddy bday present and you put it in your boat CD player to turn up as loud as you can for stubborn guide boats or people who anchor to close while you have been fishing will for sure make them pull up and leave.... huge country music fan but old c murder stays in the boat for the don't know how to be considerate fishing idiots...

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Lol... I have a post where that worked.... Chris R Bonsack and I were smoking the trout and boats were almost tied up to us...I started to get pissed but needed a break..so I found a gangas rap station and hollered Party up in here...put it on 52 volume and they all backed up and some left

There is a white blackjack that fishes with you guys, seems like a nice boat. I believe my chances are best when I follow it very closely.

Jus follow a Hinie, is that the ticket?

Nope. Just stay in Turner's!

Point of post is? .....venting? Lol. Eventually w.... There will be more launches for the lake and 2x the amount of boats as now. And while you dislike weekend boaters hitting the water for merely enjoying a beautiful evening.....(caring less if he catches 2 or 100 fish).... U helped create the monster (salty Cajun) that strikes interest in the occasional angler to fish more and draws the attention from anglers near and far. I enjoy the site thoroughly and get a kick out of your post but unless u purchase the lake and set a grandfather law (per say ..... If u never fished big lake b4 ?? 1990??? .... Gonna have to learn to live with 3" bulging veins.

:cry: And thats all folks!

BOOM :p:rotfl:

I have been surf fishing the beach at fourchon catching fish from the second bar back towards the beach and have had folks wade right thru the fish to get out to me so they could catch too.:confused:

I have fished Big Lake 4 times now and I have lived in Lake Charles nearly all my life but I can promise yall you will not see my 15' boat rollin up in the middle of any groups. I have fished fresh water alot and have learned the spots just like I will Big Lake and thats with time, so if you see my little boat sinkin all I ask is someone come get me cause I aint afraid of the wind or waves and I fish almost everyday I am off and thats a few things that make me diff then all the other pilgrams.

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No im not venting just explaining why less fish are caught on weekend....I dont fish them so it really dont matter to me..............I only fish if need be with someone who cant go during the week....but I know and set my self up for this kind of stuff..

I just hope post like these will educate some people

crackers. when the idiot horde starts moving, throw some crushed crackers overboard. gulls will show up keeping horde busy. fun to watch horde throw there arm out trying to catch fish.

I am really considering doing this, sit back and drink a beer and enjoy the show lol

You are trying to educate the wrong group. The morons that don't have a clue about fishing etiquette are not on this site. You can't fix stupid,deal with it or put up a gate around lake w.

O. K. Guy!!!!

Being fairly new to this site, and From Abbeville, Can someone explain what a pilgrim is??? SOOOOO if someone calls me one when I'm on BL. I CAN WHIPP SOMMEEEE A______SSS.


BIGGUN

Look in the mirror PILGRIM . . . . . . :rotfl:

Only kiddin man

He is just trying to prove a point about the lake, his intentions are good trying to make more aware of what's going on in our estuary and the direction its headed

It's just discussion man only thing I can say is if you don't like it don't read it no harm done none taken ya know

Was this an unknown secret? :eek: :confused:

Lmao.... And I bet you keep sheephead right

I never act like nor try to own the lake....if I did it would be closed

Pilgrims is. Just a nice name to use....it could be worst