People in a Grey and White Ranger Bay
 

If this is you.....:thefinger::thefinger::thefinger:
You are not supposed to run full throttle into the middle of a giant flock of birds then stop and try to fish. Thanks for killing a good bite

Week days are better than weekends, but still never good.
If they see you fishing, they will come to you.
Me and Jordan left the launch before dark. Got to Turners Island before daylight.
We were the only boat in the lake at this time.
Along comes a small boat, pulls up right next to us and starts fishing.
We move, he followed us.
When daylight hit, the boats swarmed us.

Just can't get no respect these days on the water....that's a shame...I guess these sports had no one to teach them any better when they where young

90% of the time you see a T-top coming its trouble. Not sure why that is but the numbers do not lie.

You know, I've really started fishing a lot more in lake areas lately. I now fish popular areas more than I ever have. I couldn't imagine rolling up on someone so close that without a 12x zoom, they could get a detailed picture of me! There are fish everywhere in these areas and even I realize that. I don't think I've fished within a couple hundred yards of anyone until last weekend when LPfishnTim and I TROLLED past another boat in a canal. Close enough to talk but still not close enough to swap paint or piss anyone off!

I thing I'll start keeping a rod set up with nothing more than a 3 oz weight in case this kind of crap ever happens to me!

Those guys pissed me off. They would roll right up to the birds with big motor and then poof. No more birds. *** were they thinking.

that picture was taken with an iphone camera...

:pissed:That's friggin sad! Well, maybe they lurk around in these forums and will see this post. Although they'll never likely come forth, maybe they'll learn that their practices aren't appreciated.:shaking:

People who motor up into a group of birds, then expect to catch fish are not clearly thinking and evidently do not understand how a school of fish will spook. Also, how disrespectful it is to the other people already fishing a school of fish. I understand ya'lls frustration.

You said it brother!!! Amen and Amen!!!

we had one jackazz in a blue/white boat with a goofy, giant, tall, white antenna run into our birds, drop the tm hard, caught 2 fish, ran the birds off, THEN cranked his big motor and took off right in front of us!:pissed:
THEN he proceded to do the same thing to a guy in a jonboat that we had been watching quietly working a set of his own. after sucessfully ruining that guy's bite.. he then ran over to the only other boat in the bay and ruined their bite too.
AFTER ALL THIS....we eventually got our limit and we had gotten back on a small set of birds for catch and release fish and who do we see coming back at full throttle?? yep, big white antenna guy! :pissed: he wasn't gonna do it to us again so we waited till he got close and we jumped in the bottom of the boat, started our big motor and made as much noise leaving the area as possible, scattering the birds in every direction! :p

It would be cool if someone would type up a fishing ettiquette "Dos and Don'ts" document, written with a cool head and just the facts (no sarcasm and no unrealistic rules, like don't ever pass within 2 miles of another boat...just rules that you follow yourself, without fail). I would be happy to post it in the FAQ docs. ;)

I am seriously thinking about buying a Bull Horn to yell at the idiots.

excelent idea, im thinkin that' gonna be a long list filled with stuff like "Do practice backing your boat in a parking lot before going to the launch for the first time." and "Don't block 2 of the 3 launch slips at cal point with your big obnoxious lsu boat on saturday morning at daybreak!" :rotfl:

I could cut it down to one.... "Do have respect for others." ;) but thats wishful thinkin.

I would pay to see you go off on some people with a bull horn... I would probably fall out of my boat from laughing so hard :*****:

Jedi I remember that lsu boat. That guy had no clue. Were did he say he was from.

Where.

Well Bob, as of last Sat I will be fishing out of my tunnel hull from now on so you just might get your wish. Will you get me out of jail when I go postal??????????????

Bossier City

i'd chip into that fund!!

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I'm serious about the ettiquette document. If y'all want to start a thread and compile responses into one document, I'll post it. That is the kind of good info I'd like this site to provide to new fishermen. I'll bet several of us will realize we are guilty of certain things that may aggrevate others. We might be able to make at least a little bit of a difference in modifying behavior on the water.

I like my T Top. It's a good place to keep my sammiches.


I've been on the water once in the last month. Sweetie (my wife) and I put over at 8 on a Sat ran over to where the channel meets with north end of Turner's and then we saw it: the Turner's flotilla. While I stopped and contemplated what to do next, she counted 40 boats between the channel and Turner's island. And no birds. I couldn't figure a way to run to the lake through the mass of humanity so we went to the south edge of the bay and hugged the bank. I'm telling you it looked like the scene out of Jaws. Overloaded boats of all shapes and sizes, it was almost as bad as the weirs.

I turned around and headed north and went and fished reds.

That gray and white boat might be the water representative of this group.

That should be posted on a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood and put next to every boat launch that has access to Big lake; or any launch anywhere for that fact.

how did no one shoot that guy?

You have to love idiots that film themselves breaking the law and post it on YouTube. In Texas that guy would be in jail already, and the fines for interfering with hunters are hefty. ;)

Shad.....this topic has been covered [several times ?] before.....just need to locate it and compile the information from several posters.

Kind of a busy time of the year.....fishing and hunting......maybe in a few weeks.

I would have went and tackled that guy....I would love to get my hands on him....:smokin:

I'd love to go on the test run.

I believe it would come in handy in the lake or "Weirs", it also has a siren effect on it. Let me know when you are ready to try it out, will order this week. How much trouble can you get into pulling along side one of these idiots and yelling at them with a bull horn????:D

Did ya'll forget about this one.

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Big Lake Fishing Rules

http://www.biglake411.com/forum/styl...ost_target.gifby _W_ » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:56 pm
I will write this and hope to step on toes. I also hope JSmoke makes this a sticky on the forum!

General Rules for Anglers on Calcasieu Lake :

This is to inform some that might not know or do not realize what mistakes you might be making on the LAKE.
As the Internet gets bigger our lakes get more packed with fisherman who really do not know much about how to saltwater fish or fishing in the area. So with 25 years of Saltwater fishing on Big Lake I am going to give some Info I hope at least one person will learn from.

1) Our lake is very shallow throughout the estuary with an avg. of 4ft throughout, only the ship channel provides deep water. So keep in mind that a running out board motor will scare fish and spook them!

2) If you see anglers fishing in wide open water please show a little respect & go out of your way to give them at least half mile or more. There is no need to pass close to a group of fisherman on a reef ! With wide open areas of water just take the time to give your fellow angler some room. He does not want you to spook his fish or roll your boat wake on him! As you would not like it either! So respect boats fishing on reefs or in open water areas.

3) Bank burning ! This is a big killer especially on the East side as the highway to the weir is a kill zone! They have over 50 good fishing areas along this bank all times of the year. If you see a boat fishing a few hundred yards off the bank DON'T GO BETWEEN THE BANK AND HIS BOAT!!!! Go wide around toward the middle of the lake as you can have the whole area without driving over fish he or she found! If you start strait off Comm Point and head straight down you will be fine! You do not need to hug the banks all the way down to the weirs! Give a little and it will go a long way. Never pass between two boats fishing either as this will get you a salute or a chase down usually!

4) As stated above our lake avg 4ft of water. YOU DO NOT NEED TO THROW YOUR ANCHOR IN THE WATER! This does not hold any better than just setting it down really slow! If its windy let out more line! Throwing your anchor will give you ZERO success when trout fishing. If your an anchor thrower you're probably wondering why you do not catch fish! BINGO! The Olympic Anchor Toss will not get you any brownie points with the guides or local pros, it will only piss everyone off & scare the fish away.

5) Crowding other anglers! This is a big problem you see on the weekends as one boat my be set up on a reef and catching fish! Then other boats start easing closer and closer until you can smell their breath. This is not cool and really disrespectful! You should give all boats at least three max casting distance unless they invite you over! Remember that is his fish....The angler found them so I believe that three casting distance around his boat is his fish!

6) Leaving with boats fishing: If you're going to leave an area where others are still fishing even if you were the 1st one there. Just troll out and give the other boats the same respect you want while fishing! Do not crank your big motor while close to other boats!

7) BIRDS....BIRDS....BIRDS.....This is the killer on Big lake and No matter how many fights or boat ramming happens, this is always causing a cluster! Look it is real simple math...ONE BOAT PER GROUP OF BIRDS....1st come 1st serve! Unless its real calm then two MAX******** More than two you will kill the bite and don't catch anything but one or two fish if your even that lucky....

Rules of bird fishing.... DO NOT TROLL UP WIND TO FISH A GROUP OF BIRDS>>>YOUR SPOOKING THE FISH....Approach down wind and let the wind push you toward them and adjust as needed

DO NOT TRY TO FISH BIRDS WITH OUT A TROLLING MOTOR...COM ON....You cannot do it and you will not have any success but blow out a group of birds for someone else. If you want to fish birds buy a trolling motor Bottom line!

8) Boat launches...Please DO NOT TAKE THE WHOLE LANDING UP! most you can launch several boats at a time at most launches, so launch your boat to one side or the other! & stay in your lane. No dead middle where you're holding up other anglers who want to fish on time!

If you follow some of these rules you will become a better angler and keep less hands flying up in the air!

Hope this helps!

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give the local pro's 1/2 mile min

I would LOVE to see them try that trash in Louisiana. I would have shot up his chute. Several loads of BB steel through the fabric of that chute would screw up his day.

Heck.....just fish a different day.

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3/12/2010 Fishing Ethics attempted to start a thread.
Let's try again. "W" s post might be a good start.

The previous one is a good start, but again, I don't want any rules on there that you yourself don't follow every time. I believe a 1/2 mile distance between you and another boat is ridiculous. Also, what does the wind direction have to do with the way the trolling motor noise carries underwater? :rolleyes:

What they encountered in Illinois doing that crap and what they will encounter in Louisiana will be two, totally different situations.....:grinpimp:

I agree on the 1/2 mile thing but I think the trolling motor comment is pertaining to using the wind to push you instead of the trolling motor.

Tgxs, I was just about to post those rules above from another site. I realize W is no longer here , but he did post several on here before FYI. I am a long time fisherman myself , so I would have to agree with W rules 100%. I fished around him about two months ago on basket reef and can say he did a great job of showing etiquette I watched three boats close right in on him because his boat was catching a ton of fish. Once he limited out he waved me in to take his spot because, out of three boats we were the only one to not squeeze him.
I also have to agree on the T-Top comments above. I know the east side of the state fisherman were over here due to the oil spill. Most were T-Tops and had no idea about this lake other than finding boats.
To add something in to the thread: Guys please watch out for waders in the water early and late! One of my partners was almost ran over last week right at dark, he had a light on the bill of his hat but boat driver never saw him.
Keep a eye out and God Bless

rule 1 is just a tip so...
rule 2: what?!? 1/2 mile?? so if i launch at cal point and am headed to comissary, and turners being 1 mille wide, if theres just 2 boats in turners flats, i would have to go down the ship channel and around to avoid spooking "someones fish" :confused: thats crazy.
rule 3: kindly tells us where to drive our boats (no less than 300 yards of the bank if anyone is even within sight of the bank, with an underlying threat of physical violence for non-compliance.
rule 4: is a non issue if you stay the prescribed 5 miles from any other angler.
rules 5 and 6 i agree with but 2 casts distance is sufficient for my comfort.
rule 7: is crazy i've witnessed 20+ boats working a single huge set of birds for more than 45 minutes! if everyone is RESPECTFUL it can happen.
and telling me that a trolling motor is required? helpful yes, but unless your buying my equipment, u cant require anything from me or anyone else.
and rule 8: well hell, you just can't fix stupid! :shaking:

Rof*****. Omg Jedi your a nut.

Make the whole Calcasieu Estuary or at least Big Lake non motorized paddle craft only? If your going to crowd someone you have to work for it.
Just joking, I have a bay boat also and deal with the the same thing when I use it.

I don't mind anyone fishing the same set of birds as me, as long as they are respectful, shut down the main motor and use a trolling motor to move in. And don't cut in front of me, or I will crank up and leave, screwing up your fishing like you screwed up mine.
If you come into the birds, you are not scaring off the birds. You are scaring off the fish. Birds will land on your boat if they see something to eat. They are not scared of humans. When the fish leave, the shrimp stop coming to the surface, the birds leave.

Another topic is launching. Don't prep your boat in the launch area. Do it in the parking lot or away from the launch. WHen it is all ready, then go into the launch area. Same when you pull out. Run on the trailer, tie off, get the fruk out of the launch area to finish preping your boat for the road.

you're exactly right man. When i was young all i'd do is freshwater fish with my dad and brother in bayous and small lakes. Whenever you were running and came up to another boat you would slow the boat to an idle and go to the opposite side of the bayou. The past 3-4 years, I have to say that barely ANYONE does that. Now they'll slow their boat down to where they are almost on step and throw a huge wake over your bow, while they are a rods reach from your boat. You would think that they just don't have any common courtesy, but i think the fact is that they are just to stupid and ignorant to think that maybe they are messing up someone's bite.

As far as saltwater goes, which I'm fairly new to (only been fishing saltwater 4-5 years) People don't seem like they know any common courtesy/sense much less know how to find fish. At least once a day, I see ppl with binoculars looking at other boats to see if they are catching and what they are fishing with, instead of looking for bait activity or any other sign of fish like current lines, slicks, BIRDS!, or just maybe a good looking washout or cut. It drives me insane that they just don't have any know how unless they are surrounded by boats.

Sorry this kind of stuff really "grinds my gears," especially when they anchor their boat right where your casts are landing, which happened to me this past weekend and killed an awesome bite i had going. I could literally look around and as I'm reeling in fish after fish i see the ppl around me picking up anchor and directly their trolling motor full speed at me!:pissed: I WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING. I may take into consideration the area they are fishing and set up another drift but never get 2 casts from their boat! K I'll stop other wise I'll keep going.

i've passed threw small canals with people fishing ,if I see there catching fish I'll wait to pass them and let them catch the fish they are on, if there not catching fish I pass by slowly, but there is always that person who flies by while your on fish in a canal bend and totally ruins the bite, Most of the time I get ticked off at people, there either Mexican or Asian boaters who don't know the difference between Idle and plowing! Me and Southern151 were talking about this saturday.

This would be an excellent idea, the only issue would be that this fishing etiquette information would rarely pertain to the people on this website, except for possibly a very few things. The people on this website seem to have enough respect and common sense to know what's right and wrong when it comes to respect and courtesy on the water with others. I think it would be a great article to publish come the beginning of the spring and summer fishing months in the Lousiana Sportsman, launches, outdoor section of newspaper, and the Lousiana rules & regulations pamphlet that tells you what catch and size limits are allowed.

There are twice the number of unregistered guest that view this forum than there are registered guest.
People are looking. But I don't thing they will register in order to comment.
Best way to shame them into doing better is to take pictures and post them.
They will not try to learn, they don't care. All they say when you ask them why they
are running in front of you or chasing your school of fish off is, "this is a public lake, you don't own the fish or the lake".
So I say, take their picture and post it up.

they'll just say, hey i saw your thread that the lake is on fire so here i am.

really? :p