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Jordan 10-18-2010 05:46 PM

Winchester shotgun shells
 
Bought some winchester xpert hi-velocity shells from Walmart the otherday. Their steel shot.$6.00/box Anyone ever use these?? Are they ok for ducks?? Bought 6 boxes.#2 and #4 shots for my 12 and 20 gauge.

specktator 10-18-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 200832)
Bought some winchester xpert hi-velocity shells from Walmart the otherday. Their steel shot.$6.00/box Anyone ever use these?? Are they ok for ducks?? Bought 6 boxes.#2 and #4 shots for my 12 and 20 gauge.

Damn $6 a box! Were they on sale? Yes they are fine for ducks. That is what I shoot most of the time.

LaAngler 10-18-2010 06:13 PM

don't think you can return ammo so they better be good enough :D

meaux fishing 10-18-2010 06:51 PM

I dont like em... cut one of the shells open the BB's are not all round

longsidelandry 10-18-2010 06:52 PM

Are those the shells in the chrome boxes? I saw some in Wal-Mart the other day, thought it was some special edition ***** shells or something...

Jordan 10-18-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 200833)
Damn $6 a box! Were they on sale? Yes they are fine for ducks. That is what I shoot most of the time.

Yeah they were re modeling

speck-chaser 10-18-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 200843)
I dont like em... cut one of the shells open the BB's are not all round


I did the same thing a few years back, got the same result ,hardly any of em round. wasnt a pretty pattern. Think I might try some kents this year.

meaux fishing 10-18-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by speck-chaser (Post 200890)
I did the same thing a few years back, got the same result ,hardly any of em round. wasnt a pretty pattern. Think I might try some kents this year.

kents are what i shoot. I bought a case this year on tax free ammo weekend for $12.50 a box:D

H2OFwlKlr 10-19-2010 12:20 AM

Jordan, they will be fine. That's all I shoot, you still have to hit them if the BB's are round or not. ;)


They are 2 3/4", the FPS on them is 1450 for 1 1/8 oz and 1550 for 1 1/16 oz, that is hauling ***, never saw steel hit a duck so hard until I shot these. I used to shoot all the big shells, now all I shoot are these in my Beretta, and life is good, best shooting I have ever done, don't have to lead much with these, just point and shoot. :)

Dink 10-19-2010 06:01 AM

I use them too. But I use 7 1/2s. I get better penetration. With that than a 4

Jordan 10-19-2010 07:04 AM

20 gauge #2 (7/8oz shot) are 1500fps
12 gauge #4 (1-1/16oz shot) are 1550 fps
12 gauge #6 (1oz shot) are 1325 fps

specktator 10-19-2010 07:20 AM

I shoot Kent sometimes as well. I dont see any difference b/w them and XPerts. AND only place that sells them conveniently enough for me to buy them is Billy's in Pecan Island. And they will run u close to $20/box for 3" over there. So I only buy them if I am out of Xperts. That place is rediculous but its about 500 yards from my camp. We always laugh, can of OFF=$9.50 at Billy's. They know u gotta have it I guess.

longsidelandry 10-19-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 200963)
I shoot Kent sometimes as well. I dont see any difference b/w them and XPerts. AND only place that sells them conveniently enough for me to buy them is Billy's in Pecan Island. And they will run u close to $20/box for 3" over there. So I only buy them if I am out of Xperts. That place is rediculous but its about 500 yards from my camp. We always laugh, can of OFF=$9.50 at Billy's. They know u gotta have it I guess.

Supply and demand my friend...

BottomOfTheBoot 10-19-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 200957)
I use them too. But I use 7 1/2s. I get better penetration. With that than a 4

:*****: I heard dat.

yak'em-n-stack'em 10-19-2010 08:50 AM

Haha tim. You made a funny

Woodduck Commander 10-19-2010 10:10 AM

hahahahahahaha i see what you did there

mcjaredsandwich 10-20-2010 12:20 PM

bought two boxes of the #6 2 3/4" @ 1400fps. Not bad. Same price, only last year.

noodle creek 07-17-2011 09:25 PM

cut open one of the shells. no matter the shot size there will be #2, 3, 4, maybe even 6 shot inside. also the bb's are not even close to being perfectly round. past about 30 yards they do not perform well, but the price is hard to beat.

huntin fool 07-17-2011 09:30 PM

Shoot em all the time

Raymond 07-18-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 200832)
Bought some winchester xpert hi-velocity shells from Walmart the otherday. Their steel shot.$6.00/box Anyone ever use these?? Are they ok for ducks?? Bought 6 boxes.#2 and #4 shots for my 12 and 20 gauge.

The way you shoot they'll be just fine Pookie.;)

SULPHITE 07-18-2011 09:31 AM

oh boy time to pony up on some shells...

shot kent last year...ok shells i guess?

evidrine 07-18-2011 09:36 AM

I would think the more "out of round" the more damage when they hit the bird. Just gotta hit em'! With the right choke they should still perform well.

huntin fool 07-18-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 288392)
I would think the more "out of round" the more damage when they hit the bird. Just gotta hit em'! With the right choke they should still perform well.

I guess they haven't cut into a Black Cloud.. Them bad boys have a disc around the BB's, cuts thru em.

wtretrievers 07-18-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 288386)
Might have to hurry and jump on this, then just buy a case of Kent's... Shawn's got me sold on some Kents

Don't know about the duck loads but we use the Kents to turkey hunt, been bustin some birds with em.

SULPHITE 07-18-2011 09:42 AM

fool jordon's post was from 2010...if'n you buying shells right now they gonna be full price!! sucks.

Jordan 07-18-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 288384)
The way you shoot they'll be just fine Pookie.;)



you have room to talk...how ???



If you'd call them in less than 200 yards, i'd show ya how to hit.

SULPHITE 07-18-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 288401)
you have room to talk...how ???



If you'd call them in less than 200 yards, i'd show ya how to hit.


BOOM!!

huntin fool 07-18-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 288400)
fool jordon's post was from 2010...if'n you buying shells right now they gonna be full price!! sucks.

You serious. I thought it was recent. F!


Was thinking they went down from $12 a box... F F'ity F F F!

Shame on you Jordan.

all star rod 07-18-2011 09:47 AM

I was in Monroe the last several days for my sons Dixie Youth baseball tourney. I drove about 30 minutes North to Bastrop to Simmons Sporting goods. Man that place is nice. They had the Federal 3", 1-1/4oz steel for 99 bucks plus tax. Picked up a case of 3's and 4's.

SULPHITE 07-18-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 288404)
You serious. I thought it was recent. F!


Was thinking they went down from $12 a box... F F'ity F F F!

Shame on you Jordan.

I know i did the same thing...I was like hell yeah gonna make a deal!!!

Jordan 07-18-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 288404)
You serious. I thought it was recent. F!


Was thinking they went down from $12 a box... F F'ity F F F!

Shame on you Jordan.


i seen this also about it being from 2010..... i didnt know someone brought it back to the present

huntin fool 07-18-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 288410)
i seen this also about it being from 2010..... i didnt know someone brought it back to the present

I was pumped up :redface:

Jordan 07-18-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 288414)
I was pumped up :redface:


sorry little buddy. Im stalking out the shells at wally world. I'll let you know if they "re-model" again.

aidan 07-18-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 288406)
I was in Monroe the last several days for my sons Dixie Youth baseball tourney. I drove about 30 minutes North to Bastrop to Simmons Sporting goods. Man that place is nice. They had the Federal 3", 1-1/4oz steel for 99 bucks plus tax. Picked up a case of 3's and 4's.


yea i go there every year for their big sale and they have some awesome deals

gckid 07-19-2011 08:20 PM

been using estate 3" 6's for years. for decoying duck u can't beat them. even killed geese to 30 yds with them.

all star rod 07-19-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gckid (Post 289697)
been using estate 3" 6's for years. for decoying duck u can't beat them. even killed geese to 30 yds with them.

For teal season and early part of big duck season I used to shoot 3", 1-1/4" oz, 6 estate. A few years ago they quit making them in the 1-1/4oz. you can only get them in 1-1/8oz. I need all the BB's I can get.

Raymond 07-20-2011 10:46 AM

My dad lives north of Bastrop La and if enough want shells from Simmons and will pay in advance, I can get him to pick them up or I will make a trip up and get them. Please understand, I do not want to get stuck with cases of shells that can't be returned.

specktator 07-20-2011 12:21 PM

Stopped at Simmon's a few times on my way to duck hunt in Arkansas. Cool place and they got some pretty good deals.

meaux fishing 07-20-2011 12:31 PM

I always went to TP outdoors in West Monroe. They aren't really anymore expensive and it was 5 min from my house..

gckid 07-20-2011 08:06 PM

if you have the pocket book, the remington hd 2 3/4 #6 can not be beat. been guiding for 30 years and have not seen a better load. At the range you can kill them, you almost have to put salt in the load to keep the ducks from spoiling. Also kill specks out to 40 yds consistently. Almost like shooting the old 3" lead 4's

SULPHITE 07-20-2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gckid (Post 290169)
if you have the pocket book, the remington hd 2 3/4 #6 can not be beat. been guiding for 30 years and have not seen a better load. At the range you can kill them, you almost have to put salt in the load to keep the ducks from spoiling. Also kill specks out to 40 yds consistently. Almost like shooting the old 3" lead 4's

hunted with a guy that shot those this past year and smoked'em

gckid 07-20-2011 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 290175)
hunted with a guy that shot those this past year and smoked'em

they will definitly make a believer out of you

DUCKGOGETTER 07-21-2011 07:09 AM

I've shot them really not a bad shell, and that's a great price

ckinchen 01-29-2012 12:26 PM

moving up and old thread. Have you guys ever shot PMC shells or Rio blue steel? I have been shooting Hevi-Shot and Blackcloud all year but man those shells are very expensive. Now that I have a few more hunts under my belt and never see any guides or everyday hunters using them I have to wonder if they are worth the extra $$$. I can get PMC and Rio for less than half of the expensive brands. I do like the Hevi-shot/steel, they are great.

all star rod 01-29-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 383687)
moving up and old thread. Have you guys ever shot PMC shells or Rio blue steel? I have been shooting Hevi-Shot and Blackcloud all year but man those shells are very expensive. Now that I have a few more hunts under my belt and never see any guides or everyday hunters using them I have to wonder if they are worth the extra $$$. I can get PMC and Rio for less than half of the expensive brands. I do like the Hevi-shot/steel, they are great.

shot the PMC brand towards the end of the year. also I shot the RIO brand last year....no issues with either. I usually shoot 3" 1-1/4oz #3 or 4.

cduhon 01-29-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 383687)
moving up and old thread. Have you guys ever shot PMC shells or Rio blue steel? I have been shooting Hevi-Shot and Blackcloud all year but man those shells are very expensive. Now that I have a few more hunts under my belt and never see any guides or everyday hunters using them I have to wonder if they are worth the extra $$$. I can get PMC and Rio for less than half of the expensive brands. I do like the Hevi-shot/steel, they are great.

Shot lots of Rio this year, had a bad jamming problem. Shell was splitting and plastic coming apart. Emailed Rio and they informed me my batch had a recall for this exact problem. I sent 7 boxes back and they sent me a new case. Only shot one box out of case but No problems since. Customer Service was great. Will buy more in the future

SaltyShaw 01-29-2012 12:56 PM

I have been hearing really good things about the Rio's I'm gonna give em a shot

cmcnabb 01-29-2012 05:14 PM

I've shot some PMC's and they sucked. Never shot rio's. I've been shooting fiocchi 3 1/2 #2 with 1 9/16 oz of shot at specks and they work great. Unless your getting a great deal on the rio shells, I would look into rogers sporting goods. You can get good deals on some federal duck loads for 99 bucks a case delivered to your door. Those federals are 2 3/4 with 1 1/4 oz of shot. I like a heavier shell than a super fast shell

huntin fool 01-29-2012 07:13 PM

I'm done with winchester.
I'll shoot Kent before I'll shoot winchester again.

all star rod 01-29-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 383804)
3 cases of Rio and havent had a problem and they are very clean. Ran out and shells were hard to find and I got a case of estate and WILL never do that again. Nasty shells and powder in the contacts several times

bought the rio from cabelas in gonzales last year...could not find any this past year except for odd shot sizes.
for the money you cannot go wrong with Kent Fasteel Shells.


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