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"W" 05-19-2010 08:35 PM

Interesting.........HUMMMM
 
Just got off the phone with my buddy who is attorney in Baton Rouge. He told me that he had accepted 10 Commercial fisherman claim on Lawsuits against BP.......
He told all the clients that it would be a real simple process
All he needed was there Tax Returns for the last 5 years and list of expenses

Out of the 10.......7 decided not to file suit and the other 3 said they would hold off for now..........

Any reason for this???

Salty 05-19-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154387)
Just got off the phone with my buddy who is attorney in Baton Rouge. He told me that he had accepted 10 Commercial fisherman claim on Lawsuits against BP.......
He told all the clients that it would be a real simple process
All he needed was there Tax Returns for the last 5 years and list of expenses

Out of the 10.......7 decided not to file suit and the other 3 said they would hold off for now..........

Any reason for this???

Ain't we done been through this? :confused:

huntin fool 05-19-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154387)
Just got off the phone with my buddy who is attorney in Baton Rouge. He told me that he had accepted 10 Commercial fisherman claim on Lawsuits against BP.......
He told all the clients that it would be a real simple process
All he needed was there Tax Returns for the last 5 years and list of expenses

Out of the 10.......7 decided not to file suit and the other 3 said they would hold off for now..........

Any reason for this???


They don't work for NASA?

downsouth 05-20-2010 04:18 AM

so you trying to say that if you were a commerical fisherman and work for 75% cash you would be the only honest guy and give all your money to the government. Man what is the deal w/ you i've been reading all your crap and you really seem to hate these guys. Ya i know they have some bad ones but hell they are bads
one everywhere. I guarantee if you were in ther shoes you would be crayin like a worm !!!! so lay off these guy's !!!!! and also you seem to be for this oil spill all you try to do is down paly it !!! WAKE UP AND RELIZE IT IS BAD SO STOP SUGAR COATING EVERYTHING !!

swamp snorkler 05-20-2010 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154387)
Just got off the phone with my buddy who is attorney in Baton Rouge. He told me that he had accepted 10 Commercial fisherman claim on Lawsuits against BP.......
He told all the clients that it would be a real simple process
All he needed was there Tax Returns for the last 5 years and list of expenses

Out of the 10.......7 decided not to file suit and the other 3 said they would hold off for now..........

Any reason for this???

To avoid paying taxes..... Barbers, Bartenders, Waiters, Lawn Service, Pole dancers, Marina Operators, Fishing Guides, and numerous other professions all do this so ****.

fun w son 05-20-2010 07:17 AM

i wish i could hide 75% of my income!

big deal so i wouldn't be able to sue bp one day.... big flippin deal!!!!!

southern151 05-20-2010 08:04 AM

Remember he is a CPA, IRS agent, marine biologist, attorney, astronaut and fishing guide. BTW, he also claims more than he makes come tax time because he is so honest.:shaking:

"W" 05-20-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by downsouth (Post 154475)
so you trying to say that if you were a commerical fisherman and work for 75% cash you would be the only honest guy and give all your money to the government. Man what is the deal w/ you i've been reading all your crap and you really seem to hate these guys. Ya i know they have some bad ones but hell they are bads
one everywhere. I guarantee if you were in ther shoes you would be crayin like a worm !!!! so lay off these guy's !!!!! and also you seem to be for this oil spill all you try to do is down paly it !!! WAKE UP AND RELIZE IT IS BAD SO STOP SUGAR COATING EVERYTHING !!

This is not about Oil or Just Commercial Fisherman

You’re saying it’s alright to cheat?
You’re saying it’s alright to hide your profit?
You’re saying it’s alright to cheat
Teachers
Police
Parish workers
State workers
FBI
Fire Fighters
And their families out of money?? Is this OK?

You’re saying if a fisherman makes $100,000 cash profit he should only show $10,000 and pocket the rest?
But If I made $100,000 I can only pocket $60,000??
This is what you’re saying right???

You’re telling me it’s alright to sue BP because this small section off gulf water is the only place Shirmp, Oyster, crabs and fish live? You’re telling me no other place holds these things????

No one wanted this oil......No one wants hurricanes......This is the price we pay living off the Gulf of Mexico....... Hurricanes hurt the oil and the oil hurts the fisherman.......It’s our life’s.......
The worst part is the 11 who lost there lives!!!

My Great uncle had two shrimp boats in Cameron for Hurricane Audrey....lost one and saved one........ Cameron was gone....Nothing left and shrimping was his only income.......

He traveled to Morgan City and Shirmped out of there for 6 months to survive...Was it easy>>NO....Was it where he wanted to be....NO...... Hard times and he knew crying and B...... Would only slow him down.....
I don’t have a soft heart when you have not done everything possible 1st

BP is hiring them.......They don’t want to work...Fine Travel...When you can not possibly find any resources to make a living off the coast or habitat....then come crying.....

Talked with a guy who sponsors this site....He is in the Artificial bait business.....Its slow.....So he jumps in his truck and goes to FL,MS,AL,Carolinas and Texas.......

HE told me the same kind of thing.....When I cant sale a plastic bait in any of the lower or eastern States I will shut the doors.......

This stuff happens for a reason.......Maybe more will start being honest with there income, now that it’s has back fired on them

Ask the Icon Crawfish Farmers....... If I have to pay Taxes then you and every working America needs to pay taxes......

So if I’m wrong than prove this above WRONG TO ME

yak'em-n-stack'em 05-20-2010 08:40 AM

Where did you copy that from. Because the spelling is wayyyyyyyyy too good

LaAngler 05-20-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154510)
BP is hiring them.......They don’t want to work...Fine Travel...When you can not possibly find any resources to make a living off the coast or habitat....then come crying.....

Talked with a guy who sponsors this site....He is in the Artificial bait business.....Its slow.....So he jumps in his truck and goes to FL,MS,AL,Carolinas and Texas.......

HE told me the same kind of thing.....When I cant sale a plastic bait in any of the lower or eastern States I will shut the doors.......

This stuff happens for a reason.......Maybe more will start being honest with there income, now that it’s has back fired on them

Ask the Icon Crawfish Farmers....... If I have to pay Taxes then you and every working America needs to pay taxes......

So if I’m wrong than prove this above WRONG TO ME


Well from my understanding, to work on the clean up crews you have to sign a waiver not to take legal action against BP. I cannot confirm this.
Second, you may as well get used to people knocking the oilfield (media, enviromentalist, shrimpers, etc) Hell we deserve some ribbing for this accident.

Bringing the tax evasion thing into this, your opening a big can of worms. One thing is for sure, as everyone tries to jump on the camels back eventually the camel will die. No free lunch.

"W" 05-20-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 154513)
Well from my understanding, to work on the clean up crews you have to sign a waiver not to take legal action against BP. I cannot confirm this.
Second, you may as well get used to people knocking the oilfield (media, enviromentalist, shrimpers, etc) Hell we deserve some ribbing for this accident.

Bringing the tax evasion thing into this, your opening a big can of worms. One thing is for sure, as everyone tries to jump on the camels back eventually the camel will die. No free lunch.

I heard you have to sign a wavier also.....Don’t know how true it is but its money you can earn.....
The fact is you can hide income all your life but when a disaster like this happens all you here is IM GOING BROKE.....IM LOSING MONEY......I CANT MAKE IT......But your taxes forms show only small income margins????

If I did not show my income I would have at least 4 months Income in savings….
Every working American should have at least Two months income put away!!
It’s not hard you just have to give up a few things…..

When I was in my accident I had 3 ½ months income in my savings………You pay yourself 1st……

I’m sure a lot will be learned from this!!!

"W" 05-20-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 154522)
Ol W like you never ever cheated the system, come on man I KNOW BETTER so lay low bro

I show all my Income.......I can’t hide it......... I pay all year to only get back maybe if LUCKY 1 or 2 % of the 30 back.........

My Point is if you’re cheating the system don’t come crying help me......It goes for all who do it

all star rod 05-20-2010 09:32 AM

If you are not cheatin you are not trying.........:D:spineyes:

speckdaddy 05-20-2010 09:33 AM

Popcorn please

all star rod 05-20-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 154529)
Popcorn please

Your forgot the large coke and pack of Skittles....:rotfl:

BellPepperHead 05-20-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 154529)
Popcorn please


http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...ic/popcorn.gif

speckdaddy 05-20-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BellPepperHead (Post 154532)

Thank ya thank ya very much. Lol

"W" 05-20-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 154529)
Popcorn please

:rolleyes:

fun w son 05-20-2010 10:03 AM

this is the reason i had the I T dept. put a second monitor on my computer!!!!

SaltyCajunGirl 05-20-2010 12:57 PM

Not the case for my guys
 
Some of our Team guys pay their taxes but they get to write off ALOT like boat depreciation and some of the boat note (only because they consider it as a epuipment tool) some gas, baits, some of their truck maitness and a few other things. But they make between 90 and 120 a year and claim it all. When I asked them why they didn't "Cheat" like the other ones they said what makes since. They need to be able to show income to buy boats every year and to live on. Nothing wrong with being honest and the way their CPA has them set up they really dont pay that much.

H2OFwlKlr 05-20-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyCajunGirl (Post 154584)
Some of our Team guys pay their taxes but they get to write off ALOT like boat depreciation and some of the boat note (only because they consider it as a epuipment tool) some gas, baits, some of their truck maitness and a few other things. But they make between 90 and 120 a year and claim it all. When I asked them why they didn't "Cheat" like the other ones they said what makes since. They need to be able to show income to buy boats every year and to live on. Nothing wrong with being honest and the way their CPA has them set up they really dont pay that much.



Something seems fishy! "maitness" :rolleyes:

Reel Bender 05-20-2010 09:00 PM

I need a new boat any ideas.

bioid 05-20-2010 09:15 PM

Yeah w. Can't deny the shrimpers have a tough job. It's not the same as working for the man and pulling a steady paycheck. But you already know all of this. You can stop with the minimizing of the spill thing, too. Every day we learn more and more about how full of crap bp is and how bad this thing is. Noone with common sense buys into the bull but you.

"W" 05-20-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bioid (Post 154735)
Yeah w. Can't deny the shrimpers have a tough job. It's not the same as working for the man and pulling a steady paycheck. But you already know all of this. You can stop with the minimizing of the spill thing, too. Every day we learn more and more about how full of crap bp is and how bad this thing is. Noone with common sense buys into the bull but you.

So being a shrimper give you the ok to cheat? Im can list a lot more jobs that should be able to cheat then a shrimper? I farmed from 1996-2001 and I showed all my income...I wrote off lots of things but my income was there.....WHY...Because if a hurricane whipped me out I had proof ...

BTW.......:shaking:

swamp snorkler 05-20-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154745)
So being a shrimper give you the ok to cheat? Im can list a lot more jobs that should be able to cheat then a shrimper? I farmed from 1996-2001 and I showed all my income...I wrote off lots of things but my income was there.....WHY...Because if a hurricane whipped me out I had proof ...

BTW.......:shaking:

what would have it "whipped" you out of.

Reel Bender 05-20-2010 09:41 PM

I think he is saying it is about time for his whopping!

"W" 05-20-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 154747)
what would have it "whipped" you out of.

:work:

Bluechip 05-20-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 154753)
you worked on a farm.

:*****::*****:

fishinpox 05-20-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 154753)
you worked on a farm.


if you consider bangin sheep work!!!:smokin:

adamsfence 05-20-2010 09:47 PM

w you have no idea how much it cost to be in business. all them taxes u pay the company has to match. u cant tell me that u have never done something for someone for cash and not turned it in....now im not saying its right to hide everything. but if they can hide some off it then that is a chance they are taking

Bluechip 05-20-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 154757)
if you consider bangin sheep work!!!:smokin:

baaaaahhhhhh......:eek:.....:grinpimp:

"W" 05-20-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 154753)
you worked on a farm.

YES AND NO.......

I had my own crops just for a land owner........ So I filed my crops under my name and he filed his under his name........
I showed 300acres of rice and 175 of soybeans every year... (Soybeans only 2 years) Plus cows and feed

I leased all my equipment from him....which was a huge write off for me

"W" 05-20-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 154758)
w you have no idea how much it cost to be in business. all them taxes u pay the company has to match. u cant tell me that u have never done something for someone for cash and not turned it in....now im not saying its right to hide everything. but if they can hide some off it then that is a chance they are taking


SOME IS FINE........$3000 or less.....no big deal......but 50,000 or 80,000 I mean get real....

My best friend Farms and I have seen his crawfish money......:).....

But when the storms destoryed his crops he did not cry about it......

Im not talking about grass cutting money......Im talking about large imcome you provide your famliy off of

"W" 05-20-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 154765)
that is still cheating the system and I remember I always claimed everything????

What does the law say you can earn up to in cash before you need a 10-99????

I have not busted that on any given item:D

adamsfence 05-20-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154762)
SOME IS FINE........$3000 or less.....no big deal......but 50,000 or 80,000 I mean get real....

My best friend Farms and I have seen his crawfish money......:).....

But when the storms destoryed his crops he did not cry about it......

Im not talking about grass cutting money......Im talking about large imcome you provide your famliy off of


this is all im saying dude and i will leave this alone. The taxes i have to pay for my company is unreal. I mean come on I have to pay a tax on all my tools, truck, any equipment everyyear. I have already paid one tax when i bought it and every year i have to pay a tax for the depreciated value of that tool. then you have workmans comp then match taxes, then the tax for the business (if an llc or inc.) then my income tax. (i know i am leaving some out) Plus you have to try to compete with the prices of the people that are just doing it illegal with out paying all this. and try to support your family. If they can cheat and get away with it good for them. with our gov wasting all the money they do on useless stuff. that is one less dollar they have to waste.


oh and i forgot i even work another job during the year and claim single and none just to help me pay for my taxes......So is this right i should have to work 2 jobs just to be in business

bioid 05-20-2010 10:09 PM

Corporate media lies to me? Really?
So does bp.
Man you have done a lot. You must be one of those Jack of all trades types.

southern151 05-20-2010 10:12 PM

When all you have done is work for someone else, you have no clue! Income taxes are one if the easiest parts to cover!

adamsfence 05-20-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 154777)
When all you have done is work for someone else, you have no clue! Income taxes are one if the easiest parts to cover!


this is true i had no idea what i was going to have to pay till i got in business.

"W" 05-20-2010 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 154777)
When all you have done is work for someone else, you have no clue! Income taxes are one if the easiest parts to cover!

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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 154779)
this is true i had no idea what i was going to have to pay till i got in business.

You guys are both right........ I know ecxaclty what you’re paying in taxes then to top it off with insurance...... I was going to buy two eighteen wheelers to haul oil and water ....Started doing the legal trail and it was plum stupid.......Then the liability on top of all that.....

It’s the American way!!It really doesn’t bother me if someone cheats and don’t pays tax.........It just bothers me when they have something like this and they want to sue for $200,000 when there Taxes showed $15,000...... This is my point...

southern151 05-20-2010 10:21 PM

I'm learning the ropes for myself at a breakneck pace! I guess I should have known watching both of my selfemployed parents but I had to learn on my own.

adamsfence 05-20-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154781)
You guys are both right........ I know ecxaclty what you’re paying in taxes then to top it off with insurance...... I was going to buy two eighteen wheelers to haul oil and water ....Started doing the legal trail and it was plum stupid.......Then the liability on top of all that.....

It’s the American way!!It really doesn’t bother me if someone cheats and don’t pays tax.........It just bothers me when they have something like this and they want to sue for $200,000 when there Taxes showed $15,000...... This is my point...


this i agree with i don't believe in sueing except for very special circumstances.......but i don't know enogh about shrimping to say anything either.....why can't they just move there boat to a different area?.....i mean when i don't have work i go look for it. this may not even be possible but im gonna do what i got to do

SaltyCajunGirl 05-21-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by H2OFwlKlr (Post 154621)
Something seems fishy! "fitness" :rolleyes:

Fishy or not. They use a CPA that guarantees his deductions and will challenge any audits for free. They pay him a good bit but the guides all got together and formed a corporation in Delaware (I Think its Delaware) and they have been in business for YEARS and no problems or "Fishy" audits yet. They have it so well organized financially it is very impressive. I know because I have see the corporations statements every year when they purchase a FLEET of boats EVERY year.

Needless to say, they are sitting pretty good right now and recently the "corporation" purchased 3 more campsites for a total of 7 that the "Corporation" owns in different areas along the coast. So they have canceled trips and lodging fees that were booked up. BP has already offered to pay the full amount of their cancellations from guided trips and the lodging throughout this process until it ends. They thought it was fair and wanted to accept but the lawyer told them to hold off. So the guides got together and thought it was a fair deal, contacted the BP lawyer them selves and told them that they will not sign anything but a accounts payable receipt as they collect each weekly payment. Then as trips were getting booked regularly BP will still pay the unused rooms or camps and the guides that were not booked. After they get back to the normal business that was averaged out over a period years (Which is ALL documented) then they will sign a (I forget what the legal term was he said) but it was something like a paid in full for a documented loss of income.

I told them that I thought they were very fair about this. The Lawyer wanted to "Go After Them." They didn't feel it to be necessary, as long as they were being compensated in full for a true loss of documented business due to the spill. They are true people. They also are volunteering for clean up for free but using BP boats and gas.

Zachary Boy 05-21-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 154527)
If you are not cheatin you are not trying.........:D:spineyes:

Agree :*****::*****::*****:

southern151 05-21-2010 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltyCajunGirl (Post 154833)
Fishy or not. They use a CPA that guarantees his deductions and will challenge any audits for free. They pay him a good bit but the guides all got together and formed a corporation in Delaware (I Think its Delaware) and they have been in business for YEARS and no problems or "Fishy" audits yet. They have it so well organized financially it is very impressive. I know because I have see the corporations statements every year when they purchase a FLEET of boats EVERY year.

Needless to say, they are sitting pretty good right now and recently the "corporation" purchased 3 more campsites for a total of 7 that the "Corporation" owns in different areas along the coast. So they have canceled trips and lodging fees that were booked up. BP has already offered to pay the full amount of their cancellations from guided trips and the lodging throughout this process until it ends. They thought it was fair and wanted to accept but the lawyer told them to hold off. So the guides got together and thought it was a fair deal, contacted the BP lawyer them selves and told them that they will not sign anything but a accounts payable receipt as they collect each weekly payment. Then as trips were getting booked regularly BP will still pay the unused rooms or camps and the guides that were not booked. After they get back to the normal business that was averaged out over a period years (Which is ALL documented) then they will sign a (I forget what the legal term was he said) but it was something like a paid in full for a documented loss of income.

I told them that I thought they were very fair about this. The Lawyer wanted to "Go After Them." They didn't feel it to be necessary, as long as they were being compensated in full for a true loss of documented business due to the spill. They are true people. They also are volunteering for clean up for free but using BP boats and gas.

That's a group of men with good business sense. Attorneys aren't always the way to go. They would have likely been years out of their money and lost 33-40% of it in attorney fees. If BP is willing to pay as they go, it works out a lot better for them in the short and long run. Waiting two or three years to get back a couple months worth of income isn't wise if you consider how much you had to put out of pocket in the meantime to cover that money.

youmyboyblue 05-21-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 154766)
What does the law say you can earn up to in cash before you need a 10-99????

I have not busted that on any given item:D

I believe $500

southern151 05-21-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by youmyboyblue (Post 154883)
I believe $500

ANything $600 and up is to be a 1099 or regular taxes taken out.

yak'em-n-stack'em 05-21-2010 08:46 AM

yall dont know anything,


i WORK IN THE OIL FIELD, I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT TAXES

so just stop talking about

southern151 05-21-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em (Post 154897)
yall dont know anything,


i WORK IN THE OIL FIELD, I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT TAXES

so just stop talking about

:*****::*****::*****::*****: Somebody's on a roll this morning!

Of course, I'm a moron, tool and measly car repair man! I can't even spell my name correctly!:*****::help:

SaltyCajunGirl 05-21-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 154872)
That's a group of men with good business sense. Attorneys aren't always the way to go. They would have likely been years out of their money and lost 33-40% of it in attorney fees. If BP is willing to pay as they go, it works out a lot better for them in the short and long run. Waiting two or three years to get back a couple months worth of income isn't wise if you consider how much you had to put out of pocket in the meantime to cover that money.

You are exactly correct. BP have already been paying them for the losses on the spot as they turn in the cancellations papers with the total amount that they were charging customers for either 1 guided trip for however many, or the whole kit and kaboodle with lodging and all. One of the guys said that BP is being extreamly fair to them and cutting the checks to the corporation on the spot.

They think that BP is doing this with them because they have everything documented and NO Lawyer is involved. The Lawyer for BP that cuts them the checks told them BP is being careful about paying people because EVERYONE has Lawyers and they are asking for ridiculas amounts of money for things like emotional distress from people that live as far north as Baton Rouge that doesnt even have property on or near the coast.

yak'em-n-stack'em 05-21-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 154898)
:*****::*****::*****::*****: Somebody's on a roll this morning!

Of course, I'm a moron, tool and measly car repair man! I can't even spell my name correctly!:*****::help:

Funny thing is. You can tell when he copy and pastes. It's a different font and spelled right.


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