Is the limit a Commision ruling or was it changed legislatively?

You don't want that woman.....

This topic no matter what happens needs to be talked about...and I agree no attacks on people ..

We will win this fight

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Casey this is just my opinion. I think you and the moderators overall do an excellent job. You have ONE yahoo that likes to cause trouble and push the envelope. That person likes to see almost on a daily bases how far he can push things with out getting banned. It would be ashame that a great site would be sold or done away with because of one person who can't act like a civilized individual. I hope it doesn't come down to that. I think what you have done with the site is awesome. Speaking for myself even though I may not always agree with you I'll respect you as the owner of this site as you should be. That's my $.02. Take care of the problem and your job will be easier.


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Under Pressure

Crowds don’t have to limit your success at Calcasieu Lake.

By Chris Ginn
May 01 at 4:43 pm

http://www.louisianasportsman.com/pi...1335217009.gifChris Ginn Capt. Jeff Poe believes that while the pressure has increased at Calcasieu Lake, better knowledge of the lake has allowed pressure on specific spots to decrease.
This is my son’s first year of playing kid-pitch baseball.

After looking like an all-star in the batting cages during his first practice, he stood on deck and watched the batter before him take a hardball to the lower back in his team’s first attempt to hit off of an inconsistent 9-year-old pitcher.

Wide-eyed, he took his turn at the plate and bailed out on the first pitch. His second swing was more of a step-out-slap-swing defensive maneuver even though the ball was a strike right over the plate.

CALCASIEU LAKE
When it comes to speckled trout, one lake stands out for consistently producing trophies over several decades. Known locally as Big Lake, Calcasieu Lake south of Lake Charles measures 12 miles long by nine miles wide and covers about 52,700 acres. Surrounded by marshes and studded with oyster reefs, the lake averages less than 6 feet deep, but looms large in the world of speckled trout angling.
Calcasieu Lake produced three of the top 10 trout caught in Louisiana and routinely gives up fish in the 5- to 8-pound range, with an occasional 9- to 11-pounder. Tim Mahoney set the official lake record on May 5, 2002, with an 11.16-pounder that currently holds fourth place on the state list.
Anglers sometimes catch bigger trout, but never submit the paperwork or officially weigh the fish before releasing it. On May 21, 2000, Stuart Roy caught and released a 32-inch trout with a 17-inch girth. A state biologist estimated that the fish possibly weighed between 12 1/2 and 13 pounds.
To keep more big fish in the estuary, the state lowered the daily creel limit on speckled trout in Calcasieu Lake and other waters in southwestern Louisiana from 25 to 15 per day. Anglers can keep no more than two trout 25 inches or longer per day. Many anglers who fish the lake already release larger fish to keep the estuary healthy.
“Calcasieu Lake still produces some big trout, but not like it did seven or eight years ago,” advised Capt. Erik Rue. We’ve caught some over 8 pounds in the past couple years on my boat, but nothing over 9 pounds in that time. “May is typically one of the key times to catch big trout in Calcasieu Lake. In the summer of 2010, fishing was consistent, but never red hot.”
A deeper, wider and straighter version of the old Calcasieu River course, the Calcasieu Ship Channel cuts a swath 40 miles long, 400 feet wide and 40 feet deep from the Port of Lake Charles to the Gulf of Mexico. The ship channel enters Calcasieu Lake at Turner’s Bay on the north end. Farther south, several openings connect the channel to the lake, allowing tides to bring in baitfish and game fish from the nearby Gulf.
These cuts serve as choke points, concentrating fish waiting to attack anything entering the system. Several excellent places to look for trout are the Washout, Nine-Mile Cut, and nearby Long Point. Anglers may also try Commissary Point, the old rock jetties in the southern part of the lake and marshy drains along the southern and eastern shorelines.
At the southwest corner, West Cove extends across the channel. The shallow bay filled with oyster reefs averages about three feet deep. Many people fish Cross Reef, Juniors Cut at the south entrance to the cove and around Rabbit Island.
“The shallow areas with oyster reefs on the southern end of the lake and the flats where baitfish accumulate are always good areas to look for big trout,” Rue advised. “Go where the bait is. Look for big wads of mullet. That’s where the big trout will be.”
South of Calcasieu Lake, the ship channel flows through a marshy area until it hits the Gulf at Calcasieu Pass. Two mile-long rows of rock jetties line Calcasieu Pass, creating a magnet for big fish. As the summer progresses, big trout often move from the estuary into cooler Gulf waters. Anglers can catch them near the jetties, under several oil platforms and along the Cameron Parish beaches.
In September 2005, Hurricane Rita churned right up the Calcasieu Estuary, devastating southwest Louisiana. For months, the estuary received very little fishing pressure as people rebuilt their lives.
“Right after Hurricane Rita, the storm surge opened up a lot of impounded marsh,” Rue recalled. “That doubled the habitat for production of baitfish, shrimp and other creatures. Right after Hurricane Rita, fishing went through the roof. Since the storm, we haven’t had a time when the fish was really slow except during periods of bad weather. The biggest change since the hurricane is the redfish population in the lake. Now, it’s astounding how many reds are in the lake.”
Many people fish the reefs and cuts with jigheads tipped in soft plastics or use live bait under popping corks. In the summer, look for diving birds that might indicate feeding fish. As trout herd shrimp, mullets and menhaden to the surface, birds dive on them.

I talked to my uncle Sat about this. He has been fishing lake 30+ years he even said something about the ban of gill nets and the amount of fish that was taking out the lake with them. And I did think gill netting needed to stop I'm just saying!

Thanks moderators and point proven. Keep up the good work.


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State could lower speckled trout limit
By John N. Felsher
Several anglers contacted Henry Mouton, a member of the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission from Lafayette, La., asking him to submit a regulation reducing the trout limit in the Calcasieu Estuary south of Lake Charles, La.
Mouton said he may submit a recommendation to the LWFC in July 2005 after he heard what the members of the Lake Charles chapter of the Coastal Conservation Association wanted to do. The members debated several options, including reducing the limit to 15, 12 or 10 specks per day.
“I can remember counting fish by the number of 150-quart ice chests we filled,” Mouton said. “Now, if we can fill half an ice chest, we’ve had a great day. I think we need to take a hard look at this. Let’s do something on the proactive mode. If we leave more fish in the water, we’ll produce more fish. That can’t be bad.”
If the resolution passes, it will probably apply only from the Mermentau River to the Texas state line. However, it could extend to other parts of the state in the future. Mouton said that he heard from people in other parts of the state who also want to reduce the limit.
“Just a couple years ago, it was almost inconceivable to talk about reducing the trout limit in southeastern Louisiana,” he said. “Now, there’s more traction for a statewide reduction. If we do Calcasieu Lake now, it might take another year or two to do the rest of the state. The feedback that I’m hearing is running 100 to 1 in favor of reducing the limit.”
Biological observations
Biologists don’t see a problem with the trout population in Calcasieu Lake. They said that anglers might catch fewer specks because fish simply don’t bite occasionally or they move to find better food, temperatures or water conditions.
“The speckled trout population in the Calcasieu Estuary is healthy,” said Mike Harbison, a biologist with the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries in Lake Charles. “I don’t see a biological need to change the limit. We are finding fish in our sampling. If something is not broken, why fix it?”
Trout spawn from April through September with the peak in June, Harbison said. A speck reaches sexual maturity after one year. One large trout can produce 1.65 million eggs in a spawning season.
A trout may live 13 years, but most die before they live one year. More than 90 percent of trout die before they live four years. About four percent reach 25 inches long. One percent reaches 26 inches. Natural mortality from predators or other environmental factors take 66 percent of the trout regardless of fishing pressure. If the state banned fishing entirely, that percentage will not change, Harbison said.
“If we dropped the limit to 15 fish per day, we’ll only save about 14 percent of the fish caught now,” Harbison said. “If we go down to 10 fish per day, we’ll save about 29 percent of the fish now caught and kept. To make any significant changes, we’ll have to go to eight fish per day or less.”
Too much pressure
Human activity can certainly make fish more difficult to catch. Some people claim that the estuary produces the same amount of fish, but more anglers divide the pie into smaller pieces for each one.
Mary and Jeff Poe of Big Lake Guide Service support lowering the daily limit to 15, but only if the change occurs statewide. They feel that only reducing the limit in southwest Louisiana would send their customers eastward where they could still catch 25 trout per person.
“Jeff and I are opposed to any changes in the limits not recommended by the LDWF,” Mary said. “The department has trained professional fisheries biologists. We think that it would behoove everyone to listen to what they say. They say -- and we believe -- that Calcasieu Lake is very productive and will continue to be for many years.”
However, the Poes did acknowledge problems from too much pressure. As president of the Louisiana Charter Boat Association, Mary estimated that more than 100 licensed guides operate regularly in Calcasieu Lake. That does not include guides who legally come from Texas to fish in Louisiana or self-proclaimed, unlicensed guides who operate illegally. She said that about 30 to 40 licensed guides, more on weekends, fish Calcasieu Lake on any given day.
“The problem with Calcasieu Lake is not a lack of fish, but too much pressure,” Mary explained. “We’ve seen a large increase in the number of boats fishing the lake, both recreational and charter boats. The constant running of outboard motors scatters fish and closes their mouths. We’ve seen people fishing with live bait catch too many undersize fish without thinking of moving to find larger fish. We’ve seen an increase in night fishing from both boats and docks. The fish never get a rest.”
Trophy status
On the other side of Calcasieu Lake, Kirk Stansel of Hackberry Rod and Gun Club wants the lake granted “trophy status.” He also supports a 15-fish daily creel and wants to see the minimum size raised to 14 inches to give fish one more chance to spawn before hitting an ice chest.
“I’d like to see the lake declared ‘the trophy estuary of the Gulf Coast,’” he said. “Everyone wants to catch a limit of fish, but the majority of people who come here from other areas want to catch a big trout, not fill their freezers. If we lower the limit and the rest of the state keeps the 25-fish limit, that will hurt our business some, but if we lose our fish, we won’t have any business at all. If the lake is declared a trophy lake, that might even increase our clientele.”
Stansel said his club fishes about 10 boats per day, each with a guide and one to three anglers. They can expand to 20 boats if necessary. Their boats catch a three-person limit of 75 trout about three to five percent of the time or less.
Too many weirs
Besides fishing pressure, Stansel blames weirs blocking tributaries from entering Calcasieu Lake. Shrimp, crabs, baitfish, specks, redfish and other creatures grow up hiding among marsh reeds to avoid predators. Although “flap gates” allow some water and organisms to flow in and out of the marshes, weirs make such movement far more difficult.
“Weirs choked the life out of Calcasieu Lake,” he said. “Those tributaries feed this lake. More shrimp, crabs and baitfish used to flow in and out of those marshes. Block off those tributaries and that takes the bait out of the estuary. Trout need to eat.”
Technological advances
Technological advances also contribute to people finding and catching more fish. Now, most anglers carry cell phones or radios on their boats. If one person finds fish, he or she calls friends or fellow guides. Within minutes, a flotilla of boats may surround the school of fish.
With bigger boats, people can carry more equipment. Global positioning systems can pinpoint reefs. Giant outboard motors pushing boats in excess of 60 miles per hour allow people to reach any part of the estuary quickly.
More studies needed
Will Drost, an avid angler and Lake Charles businessman, supports lowering the limit to 15 trout per day. He actually prefers 10 per day, but believes more people would support a 15-fish limit. However, he wants to see more scientific studies conducted in the estuary.
“The Calcasieu Estuary is different from the rest of the state,” Drost said. “It should be managed differently. I believe that the data the state uses has become outdated. I don’t think the LDWF has the money to do a comprehensive study, but we don’t have the time to wait.”
What others want
In a survey conducted by Hackberry Rod and Gun Club, anglers voted overwhelmingly to reduce the trout limit. More than 84 percent of the respondents supported dropping the limit from 25 specks per day to 15 per day.
About 66 percent listed catching a 25-fish limit as “not very important” to them. About 85 percent supported raising the minimum size limit from 12 inches to 14 inches. Nearly 90 percent supported keeping only one trout per day over 25 inches instead of the two allowed now.
About 87 percent of the people from outside the area reported that changing the limit to 15 fish per day would not affect their desire to fish in Calcasieu Lake. About 88 percent also supported designating Calcasieu Lake as a “trophy” trout lake and supported managing the lake for bigger fish.
About 67 percent of the people who responded to the HRGC survey lived in Texas. In a survey I conducted of some Louisiana anglers, the results mirrored the other survey. The overwhelming majority supported dropping the daily creel to at least 15 trout with some people preferring a 10-fish limit.
Here are some random comments from my survey:
- “I almost never catch my limit. If I did, I probably wouldn’t keep 25 fish because that is too many to eat. I want to see the statewide limit reduced to 10 per day with a minimum of 14 inches.”
- “I realize that our economy benefits from Texas anglers visiting Calcasieu Lake. If we had similar regulations, maybe some of the ‘meathog’ pressure would ease up. Keep a few. Don’t try to feed the neighborhood.”
- “I do not feel that the limit should be changed, but I do not feel that changing the size requirement from 12 to 14 inches would be a big problem with most people. There are quite a few people like myself that may only get a chance to fish once or twice a month, so reducing the limit would be very disappointing. There are many days when we only get a small handful of fish.”
- “I fish in the Calcasieu Estuary a lot, but I don’t often catch a limit. I think the limit should be changed to 10. I don’t think guides should keep a limit on a paid trip.
- “I fish Calcasieu Lake nearly every weekend and sometimes during the week and on holidays. I agree that something should be done. In recent years, the pressure has been enormous. The fish are definitely getting larger since the netting stopped, but we need to protect numbers too. We should release all fish between 5 pounds and 8 pounds. I support a 14-inch minimum. Maybe we could give people one tag per year to let them keep a trout over 8 pounds. I think the entire state should be on the same program.”
- “Trophy status would open a whole can of worms. I’m against it. Do we really want the legislators determining fishing limits? It would be a convoluted mess. Fishing and hunting regulations are of limited impact at best. Laws only serve to keep honest people honest. The outlaws are already taking more than their limit. The answer in more enforcement.”
- “I fish four to six times a month, but I seldom catch a limit of speckled trout. I target other species equally. I’m not qualified to determine the limit. Let the biologists, not the politicians or the Coastal Conservation Association decide what’s best for the lake.”
- “The trout limit is way too liberal. Trout don’t freeze well. If people don’t eat them right away, a lot are wasted. If people are not going to eat trout in a day or two, they should practice catch and release.”

commission change.

W is right so stay on em W

Thanks

Management of wildlife should be based upon SOUND scientific evidence, not politics. The resources on public water bodies and land is for everyone in the state, not a select few. Unfortunately, this 'trophy' mentality has come along mainly from Bassmasters and Buckmasters and tv shows. The whole point of the management of public wildlife 'should be' to manage for healthy wildlife populations in order to 'take' (kill and eat) and not to catch and release, not to grow big antlers, but to kill it and eat it. If you want to grow big deer or grow big bass or grow big squirrels then put up a fence or build a pond. Bass fishing is lost, deer hunting is lost, duck hunting is right behind it, I just want what is best for the resource so that it is left behind better than when we got to use it.

I also believe that the numbers of trout caught by rod n reel is not even 1% of what dies by dolphins, sharks, other trout, pelicans, and other natural factors, so the limit could be 100 and it would really not matter that much.

This limit change should have never happened, but it did, and it will likely be very very hard to get changed back. I have only fished there for 2 years so can't chime in on much about Big Lake but I know how wildlife populations work and think management of wildlife should be scientifically driven. LDWF has very competent biologists and if we are going to ignore their EXPERT opinions then what is the point of even having biologists? Anyone can go out and shock fish and measure them, but it takes someone with some knowledge to assess the numbers and look at the trends and figure what is happening and what needs to happen, they went to school for this very thing. Its a sad day when a few stakeholders can make decisions for everyone.

I would really really like to see something like the magnuson-stevens act be placed across the state for ALL our wildlife for the state. This act makes sure that the management is scientifically driven (although it is not perfect and has not reallly been enforced, but it is an excellent tool if used properly) and rules and regulation changes would be due to scientific evidence that supports the best management for OUR resources, not because a few people want to shoot big bucks or catch big bass


:sent from iphone while at the office!

I have rest my case with Facts here

People don't like the way I come across or how I feel about a place I spend half my life at,,, o well


I have several emails out to several people and have gotten a lot of good info...most have. Lot of name calling so I'm not going to post the whole email up. But when I get all of them back I will take what I have and piece it together and make a post
I can tell you this much so far,....WLF contact I emailed is very against the 15 trout limit and he Also agrees with what I'm saying about numbers of fish

Hope to have some good info soon

You gonna screw around and get the limit dropped to 10 with all your "info". :smokin:

Like what was dicussed today in private ,we may not get the power to over turn it until its to late , but he have the ammo to never allow it below 15 for many many many years to come

From a biologist stand point we can support around a 30 per person trout limit as of today

W, there are people in control of this situation. They are not going to allow it to be "to late".

Interesting how you wrote, "From a biologist stand point we". I think you actually believe that.

Your wrong again old timer....they ignored the facts the 1st time...they brushed off bioloigest and scientist by using money to get this past
Had zero to do with helping or hurting...they assumed with zero facts

So don't think for one second "to late" can't become too late when office fisherman ignore facts and use "in case or we assume " as facts

Well, you can prove that I'm wrong when you get this limit reversed. :rolleyes: "Club W" needs to start saving their money for the fight. Holler at me when you get the final draft finished......somebody needs to speel cheek before it is submitted. :smokin:

Wow! Are we really going to assess the validity of scientific assertions by the outcome of bureaucratic processes?

I think I knew better than this by the time I completed the 6th grade at T.H. Watkins Elementary School.

Yep, I'm afraid so. This is Louisiana....not Colorado.

Have you ever been to Louisiana? It's all about who you know, who you bleaux and how much you pay for the privilege of both.

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T.H. Watkins elementary school is in Lake Charles. I graduated from high school in Metairie, and my first laboratory job was in fisheries science at LSU. I eventually graduated from LSU with a Bachelor's degree in Physics, first in my class.

Please note the actual reasoning in my statement:

I am not saying that I expect the science to have a great impact on the bureaucratic process, that could go either way.

I am saying that it is folly to assess the validity of science from whether it sways the bureaucrats.

In any case, better to have sound science, so at least some of the voting public can be informed and the refusal of bureaucrats to make wise decisions can be public knowledge.

W

This was all based on his opinion and not science!

Will Drost, an avid angler and Lake Charles businessman, supports lowering the limit to 15 trout per day. He actually prefers 10 per day, but believes more people would support a 15-fish limit. However, he wants to see more scientific studies conducted in the estuary.
“The Calcasieu Estuary is different from the rest of the state,” Drost said. “It should be managed differently. I believe that the data the state uses has become outdated. I don’t think the LDWF has the money to do a comprehensive study, but we don’t have the time to wait.”

Found some updated research facts....2011


Interestingly, Louisiana recently adopted (in 2006) a spatially-explicit management plan for Calcasieu Lake. The premise of this management decision, which included a reduction in daily bag limits and imposition of a slot limit, was to ‘preserve’ the renowned trophy-fishery for spotted seatrout in Calcasieu Lake. However, the decision to enact this regulation was based exclusively on socio-economic factors, rather than the biological status of the subpopulation. In fact, no formal stock assessment was conducted as part of the decision-making process. Thus, the status of the subpopulation (stock) was largely unknown (i.e., overfished or not?) at the time regulations were changed. While perhaps setting a bad precedent for fisheries management (i.e., making a decision based purely on socioeconomic reasons), this situation affords a unique opportunity to evaluate the response of spotted seatrout to a spatially-explicit (estuarine-scale) regulations change (i.e., adaptive management, sensu Hilborn and Walters 1992).

from Callihan PhD thesis LSU 2011 p. 182

Old news.

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Really ....did not know that.....thanks for letting us know......its on my sig.....how could that be

We only quoted 5 times in this thread alone

Great catch :shaking:

I had hopes that this crap would have died by now. :help:

He is a man on a mission!!!

I know you're drawn to W like a magnet but there's a real easy solution, don't click on this thread.......

With good reason.

It will die when two things happen
#1 I win
#2 the office fisherman admit they made a stupid law that they should of listen to people above there pay scale


So unless these happen .....no end in site


I would accept one of the office fisherman to come on here publicly and admit fault

Do the office fisherman include guides? Cause they sho don't want to see the limit raised!

Found this nice read
 

But the suggestion is also coming from sports fishers, who wonder if the quality of their trout fishing experience would improve if we had more conservative regulations.
To find an answer to that question, and to reconfirm we are not "fish hogs," I turned to the fisheries biologist at the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries.
I got a quick, one-word answer: No.
"We've run (computer) scenarios on lowering the creel limits and increasing the size limits, and from our assessments those actions did not noticeably increase the number of fish in the system or the number of big fish," said Joey Shepard, acting deputy assistant secretary of the LDFW, and a biologist who has spent much of his long career studying specks.
But there is also some real-world experience to back up those computers. In 2006, yielding to requests from some guides and sports fishers hoping for more large specks, the state reduced regulations on Calcasieu Lake. The daily limit was dropped to 15, and although the minimum size remained at 12 inches, anglers were restricted to only two fish of more than 25 inches.
The result six years later?
"From our assessment, it did not increase the number of big fish in the system," Shepard reported. "Of course, we didn't anticipate it would."
This certainly seems counterintuitive. After all, logic dictates the fewer of objects you remove from a container, the more you'll have left. And everyone knows if the limit on, say, deer were raised to 10 per day, we wouldn't have many left. For that matter, why is the daily limit on redfish only five?
Well, the answer is that nature works with a different logic, one much more complicated than simple math.
In the case of speckled trout, we're dealing with a species that has adapted to survival on the very mean streets of the Mississippi estuary by reproducing in stupendous numbers for a fairly short lifespan.
Some points to remember:
Natural mortality in this critter-eat-critter world means every speck spawning class loses 25 percent of its surviving members every year. So if you start with 100, you're left with just 75 by Year 1, then just more than 30 by year 3.
"Basically, most of the fish you put back, or leave, will be taken by natural mortality -- predators (including larger specks), disease, weather and environmental conditions," Shepard said.
Specks start reproducing at about 18 months. The spawning season runs from about mid-April to late September, and females typically reproduce ready-to-spawn roe sacks every four to five days. That's "days" with a "d." So the marsh is flooded with trout larvae for five months.
"Because the spawning season lasts so long, and the fish produce so many (larvae), it compensates for any factors that might interrupt reproduction," Shepard said. That dynamic reproduction cycle results in a survival rate that so out-paced the high predation factor, it would be almost impossible for hook-and-line anglers to make a telling difference in their overall numbers, Shepard said.
The state has been on the 25/12 system for almost 20 years, and even with anglers taking home 8 million to 10 million annually, the resource continues to show very little change in abundance.
The agency studies various reduction in creel limits to determine their impact on fishing, and came up with this. Reducing the limit from 25 to 20 would reduce harvest by only 4 percent; from 25 to 15 by 8 percent; from 25 to 10 by 15 percent, and from 25 to 5 by 30 percent.
"Based on those numbers, our assessment is we would have to reduce the daily limit to five before anyone would notice a difference in the fish available," he said.
The daily limit of 25 is seldom reached by most anglers. Studies show that the average catch per trip is fewer than five fish. Obviously, if all of the almost 1 million anglers fishing caught 25 each trip, the limit would have to be lowered.
OK, so what about reducing the minimum size to increase the number of big fish? Shepard said the LDWF ran the numbers and got these results: Increasing the minimum from 12 inches to 15 inches would put 13 percent more fish back in the water; from 12 inches to 16 inches would reduce harvest by nine percent.
But because anglers would be hooking and releasing more fish, the improvement is dampened by an estimated 10 percent release mortality.
"Essentially, we would increase spawning potential by about four percent if we raised the minimum to 15 inches, and six percent if we raised it to 15 inches," he said. "Either way, the improvement would not be noticeable to fishermen."
So for all those anglers worried about the fish-hog label, the advice is: Forgettaboutit! Certainly, if you're not going to eat them (fresh), put 'em back. Otherwise, ignore the critics and enjoy one of the great natural, renewable resources in North America.
And for those guides: If you want lower limits, move to Florida. Or Texas, Mississippi, Alabama .

There is only a few guides on the west side of the lake that don't want 25

I have emails and text from many guides who support 25trout limit


And any guide that wants 15 is because they can't catch a 25 trout limit.... It said in one article on here from one Guide service...they only fill a limit of 75 trout 5% of the time..... Here on the east side they would fill them over way over 5% of the time

Hell yea...Awesome read!!!!

And what more do we need??

looks like some solid facts to carry a very heafty argument???!!!!!

Wonder what the "glass half empty" people are gonna say about that?

what ever it is, let's hear it........

So why keep repeating? :confused::help:

If you want to reach some people about this, write a letter to the editor of the papers.

Posting the same stuff here only reaches the people that want to look at it.

I don't care whether the limit is 15 or 25.

And I'm the crazy one who nobody likes.....guess sometimes you have to stomp on toes to get things moving....I'm glad and appreciate everyone who contributed to this post with sold info

I hope when we get our final document ready we can impress them enough to get our trout limits back were Biologist said they need to be..(not office fisherman)

From Chron.com
 

Beginning June 20, anglers fishing the Louisiana waters of Sabine Lake and the Calcasieu Lake bay system south of Lake Charles will be limited to taking no more than 15 speckled trout per day, down 10 fish from Louisiana's current statewide 25-trout daily limit.
The trout limit cut was adopted by a 4-3 vote of the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission at that group's June 1 meeting.
The close commission vote underscored the contentiousness of the move affecting coastal waters, which over the past decade have become increasingly popular destinations of Texas anglers.
That increasing fishing pressure on Calcasieu and, to a lesser extent, Sabine Lake triggered concerns by some Louisiana anglers that the speckled trout population faced overharvest and needed additional protection.
Earlier this decade, concern over anglers, particularly Texas anglers, catching and retaining many large speckled trout from the Calcasieu Lake system generated a move to restrict harvest of those large trout.
The LWF Commission imposed a rule limiting anglers fishing Louisiana waters in the Calcasieu and Sabine systems and the corresponding offshore waters under Louisiana jurisdiction to retaining no more than two speckled trout measuring 25 inches or more.
The move to cut the daily bag limit from 25 specks to 15 was pushed by a coalition including the Louisiana chapter of the Coastal Conservation Association and some of the fishing guides and outfitters operating on Calcasieu Lake.
In January, when the proposal to reduce the trout bag limit in the Calcasieu and Sabine systems was officially proposed, the Louisiana CCA issued a "position paper" on the issue.
The organization said a survey of its 30,000 members indicated 85 percent who regularly fished Calcasieu Lake and 76 percent of all members supported the bag limit reduction in the southwest corner of the state.
During the LWF Commis-
sion meeting, Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries coastal fisheries staff told the group the agency's biological data indicates speckled trout fisheries in the bay systems were healthy and said reducing the bag limit would not guarantee increased trout populations in the affected areas.
Those opposed to the bag limit reduction said the fisheries staff's assessment showed the move was not scientifically justified and should not be imposed.

Well that's easy..stop reading or commenting on the subject...because its not going anywhere....

And ....

W, if there is so much support for this limit to be reversed....how in the hell was it ever allowed to be changed in the first place? Money! That's why. More money than you can even fathom. You can get a petition as long as Big lake and it ain't gonna make one bit of difference. It's gonna take money to get it done...money you ain't got.

You got that right!

Annnndddd....the glass is half empty again. Not a damn thing would ever get done if everyone were as negative as you.

There's a fine line between "negative" and realistic.