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marty f 07-24-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fonikoddity (Post 764873)
I think it's possible to agree with both sides of the issue. Everything is not always so cut and dry.

I'll play devil's advocate for a moment. It's true, disallowing guns keeps them out of the hands of good people. Problem is, even good people have bad days. Any single life taken, whether the gun was legal or not, is a tragedy.

Please don't blast me, as I know the statistics of gun violence point mostly toward the use of illegally acquired weapons. Also, I agree that everyone should be allowed to protect themselves and their loved ones, provided they aren't a complete nut job.

I think the real issue is gun control meets mental illness. It's a complicated issue to figure out how to keep guns out of the hands of these folks. They seem to get them anyway, so after they shoot a bunch of people, we shoot them. This is not a very good system. Even if they only kill one person, that's 2 people dead because of mental illness, or a crazy person, or evil, or the devil, or whatever else you'd like to call it.

My condolences to the victims and their family and friends.


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Agreed it is a nasty cycle, but unfortunately good law abiding citizens are left with few options to feel safe in their own community, so you do what you can to ensure you will see your children tomorrow.

I wonder how many people that have a CCP where at that theater and DID NOT bring their weapon?

Loneshark 07-24-2015 12:36 PM

Now this will piss me off!!!

http://www.katc.com/story/29626174/w...pe=smartdevice

marty f 07-24-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Loneshark (Post 764877)


Westboro Baptist Church to picket shooting victims' funerals

Posted: Jul 24, 2015 11:58 AM CDT Updated: Jul 24, 2015 11:58 AM CDT
By Ian AuzenneEmail
Connectiauzenne@katctv.com




LAFAYETTE - The controversial church known for picketing funerals of American service members says it plans to picket the funerals of the two women killed Thursday night in the shooting at the Grand Theatre 16 on Johnston Street.
The Westboro Baptist Church says on its Twitter page that it will protest outside the funerals of Mayci Breaux and Jillian Johnson. The Tweet reads as follows:
Warming up the picket signs for #lafayettetheater shooting victim funerals. God Sent the Shooter AGAIN! https://t.co/P0NkvGBIrJ
— Westboro Baptist (@WBCSaysRepent) July 24, 2015
The suspected shooter, John Russell Houser, 59, of Phenix City, Alabama, expressed support for Westboro Baptist in online posts he made. One such post read "The Westboro Baptist Church may be the last real church in America [whose] members [are] not brainwashed."
The church, famous for its signs with slogans such as "God hates fags," refused to claim Houser, saying he was "not part of Westboro Baptist Church." The church also mocked Houser, saying, "Even a blind hog can find an truffle once in awhile!"



This has to be a sick joke

duckman1911 07-24-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Loneshark (Post 764877)

Yeah that's F'd up

Smalls 07-24-2015 12:47 PM

Bet it will be the last time they show up in Louisiana. KATC just basically sent out a BOLO on em. No way they get close enough to be able to picket that. Too many cajuns and good ole boys that will make sure they don't.

Those clowns disgust me. What reason is there to picket these women's funerals? They make it blatantly clear why they picket the funeral's of service men and women, but what have these women done to deserve that nonsense?

duckman1911 07-24-2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 764881)
Bet it will be the last time they show up in Louisiana. KATC just basically sent out a BOLO on em. No way they get close enough to be able to picket that. Too many cajuns and good ole boys that will make sure they don't.

Those clowns disgust me. What reason is there to picket these women's funerals? They make it blatantly clear why they picket the funeral's of service men and women, but what have these women done to deserve that nonsense?

Those people are throwed off in a bad way.

Reefman 07-24-2015 02:05 PM

I'm still having a hard time trying to come to grips with what happened last night in our community. My prayers and thoughts to those who were injured and killed last night. Lafayette will have a hard time overcoming the grief and sorrow we all are feeling. Our sense of a vibrant, caring and safe city just took a blind sided hit. However, I know the Cajun spirit will prevail with a oneness That will make us better and stronger.

fishinpox 07-24-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764875)
I'm still laughing at this. Next post God Bless the victims and their families. He felt so bad for those people but had to take time to point out that I'm a Fu cking douchebag before saying God Bless the victims. That is hilarious.

quit trying to take the attention off of yourself. i along with many others read your post and felt complete disgust with the lack of compassion for the victims by your comments. take a hike dude

Goooh 07-24-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764872)
This needs to be an eye opening lesson for the Grand theatre that their anti good guy gun policies do not help protect their patrons. They get them killed. Our theatre is a Grand and I only go when the wife drags me there. I hate giving them my $ when they don't support my right to be alive.


The gun free policy is bull, but let's not act like there would have been a guaranteed gun in there if the policy wasn't in place.

Have we confirmed there were CC permit holders in that theatre that left their weapon at home or in the car because of the policy?

Goooh 07-24-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 764881)
Bet it will be the last time they show up in Louisiana. KATC just basically sent out a BOLO on em. No way they get close enough to be able to picket that. Too many cajuns and good ole boys that will make sure they don't.

Those clowns disgust me. What reason is there to picket these women's funerals? They make it blatantly clear why they picket the funeral's of service men and women, but what have these women done to deserve that nonsense?


There is a human wall deal on Facebook to put a silent perimeter around the families and protect them from those idiots, and over 4,000 people have already accepted the invite... That's impressive in such a short amount of time.

duckman1911 07-24-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 764902)
quit trying to take the attention off of yourself. i along with many others read your post and felt complete disgust with the lack of compassion for the victims by your comments. take a hike dude

At what point did I express a lack of compassion? I said it sucked. By that time it was done and over. Nothing could be changed. Not letting emotion get in the way of facts is not a lack of compassion. It's critical thinking.

Andy C 07-24-2015 03:17 PM

This is why I have and will continue to stay out of this on this board!!
Everyone can have there own options or thoughts as to how you feel.

I don't go no where without mine in my back or hip!!
Is this sad yes! Do I feel bad and prey for the families and all La.yes!
But this is the world we live in and it's happened for year's and year's a sick man or woman gets a gun or knife and dose something really sick!!

Bad men and woman get guns to to comment crimes but 99.9% are not crazy enugff to do something as bad as a random mass shooting!! News outlets just want a story, they never talk or report of any good things people do anymore!!
That's my2cents and I am done with this post.

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duckman1911 07-24-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 764904)
The gun free policy is bull, but let's not act like there would have been a guaranteed gun in there if the policy wasn't in place.

Have we confirmed there were CC permit holders in that theatre that left their weapon at home or in the car because of the policy?

I understand that there may not have been a ccw holder in there and even if he/she had their weapon it may not have helped. Was simply pointing out the relation of gun free zones and mass shootings. Hell even at military places. But regognizing a pattern and pointing it out makes me a heartless person.

Andy C 07-24-2015 03:26 PM

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duckman1911 07-24-2015 03:36 PM

^^^^^^^^^this

Dogface 07-24-2015 04:30 PM

Please pass the word and post on your Facebook that The Bayou Church will hold a prayer meeting tomorrow Saturday July 5th at 6-7 pm. The purpose is to honor and pray for victims, their families and first responders. All are invited. The church is located on Kaliste Saloom between Ross Tire and Delta World tire. Thanks.

swampman46 07-24-2015 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764757)
Sorry you don't like it. Yeah it sucks but the grands firearm policy is part of the issue. It makes it easy for whackos. Whackos don't go to gun ranges to commit murder they go to gun free zones.
You are correct that I am not a very sympathetic person Mako. I pretty much only care about 3 people on this earth. My wife and our two children.
What happened sucks but they should have protected themselves. Like marty said. I always have my gun.

Exactly what is it you would have done, had you been there? I'm all for CC, BUT it has it's places to impliment it's use. It's enough to have one idiot firing bullets in a dark room, can you see yourself doing the same? With dozens of kids scrambling around and jumping over seats in the dark running for their lives? C'mon! And what if the cops would come in at the exact time you are holding your gun? What do you think could happen then?

mr crab 07-24-2015 05:16 PM

I have been reading about the victims lives all day. I surprises me that not one of you have mentioned how young and beautiful Maycie Breaux was. What promise her young life held for her. Noone has mentiond what an amazing artist Jillian Johnson was. Or any of the non-profit groups she has started. Or her amazing band "The Figs". These women went to the ****ing movies guys. My daughters go to the movies....yalls do to. This story is NOT about packing heat. It should be about 2 lives that were cut short by a lunatic. I feel sad about our country. I feel sad that public shootings are not surprising anymore. What has happened to us as humans that these shootings are not an oddity? Also guys... I love me some S.C. I've made lifelong friends because of this site, but I'm very surprised that the conversation about the incident here on S.C. mirrors what I've seen on other social media. A focus on gun rights/control. Look...2 beautiful young women are dead. a wife, a mother, a daughter, a cousin, an aunt, a neighbor, a musician, a college student, a friend. That's the story ya'll. not Jindal or NRA, or cc laws.

Reefman 07-24-2015 05:25 PM

^^^^^^^. Thanks Mr. Crab.....

duckman1911 07-24-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764931)
I have been reading about the victims lives all day. I surprises me that not one of you have mentioned how young and beautiful Maycie Breaux was. What promise her young life held for her. Noone has mentiond what an amazing artist Jillian Johnson was. Or any of the non-profit groups she has started. Or her amazing band "The Figs". These women went to the ****ing movies guys. My daughters go to the movies....yalls do to. This story is NOT about packing heat. It should be about 2 lives that were cut short by a lunatic. I feel sad about our country. I feel sad that public shootings are not surprising anymore. What has happened to us as humans that these shootings are not an oddity? Also guys... I love me some S.C. I've made lifelong friends because of this site, but I'm very surprised that the conversation about the incident here on S.C. mirrors what I've seen on other social media. A focus on gun rights/control. Look...2 beautiful young women are dead. a wife, a mother, a daughter, a cousin, an aunt, a neighbor, a musician, a college student, a friend. That's the story ya'll. not Jindal or NRA, or cc laws.

Good point crabs but here is the flip side. I don't know these two women. I think it's horrible that they lost their life. Gun free zones = easy chances for bad people to do harm.

duckman1911 07-24-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 764924)
Exactly what is it you would have done, had you been there? I'm all for CC, BUT it has it's places to impliment it's use. It's enough to have one idiot firing bullets in a dark room, can you see yourself doing the same? With dozens of kids scrambling around and jumping over seats in the dark running for their lives? C'mon! And what if the cops would come in at the exact time you are holding your gun? What do you think could happen then?

There is no perfect scenario. If there were I'm sure you would choose not to be in a gunfight.

mr crab 07-24-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764938)
Good point crabs but here is the flip side. I don't know these two women. I think it's horrible that they lost their life. Gun free zones = easy chances for bad people to do harm.

Thanks for understanding

duckman1911 07-24-2015 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764941)
Thanks for understanding

Understanding? Damn I've been getting hammered for calling it like it is. Going to Andy's for the tourney. That dude and his peeps are the best bro. Champ can cook some good stuff. Tempted to dive down an hava a drink with yall. Wife says no :(

Andy C 07-24-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764915)
I understand that there may not have been a ccw holder in there and even if he/she had their weapon it may not have helped. Was simply pointing out the relation of gun free zones and mass shootings. Hell even at military places. But regognizing a pattern and pointing it out makes me a heartless person.

Law abiding people don't do things like this, and the thuggs or mental people don't watch or abide by them either !! either!!!!!! They carry when and where they want!!scary world we in!! Been to close to home with the last 2-3 I thank God he walked back in an killed himself and didn't cost us a ton on death row.!!!!!

I will not reply to this again!! Feel free to pm me if you have any problems with my thoughts

mr crab 07-24-2015 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764943)
Understanding? Damn I've been getting hammered for calling it like it is. Going to Andy's for the tourney. That dude and his peeps are the best bro. Champ can cook some good stuff. Tempted to dive down an hava a drink with yall. Wife says no :(

I was being sarcastic. You missed the point. Just give it a while before these womens lives are reduced to an argument about the legalities on toting a pistol around. Empathy......The ability to put yourself in the shoes of the victims families and friends. These women were our neighbors. JUst get off the gas pedal a little.

mr crab 07-24-2015 06:18 PM

This is what people are saying about Mrs. Johnson.


To understand Jillian Johnson’s mark on Lafayette, La., just look around, her friends say. They guess that just about everyone in town has a T-shirt featuring one of her designs, sold from the popular gift shops she had a hand in operating.

Johnson designed the logos for a generation of businesses, progressive organizations, and performers in the Louisiana city, which is reeling from the 33-year-old’s death after a lone gunman opened fire in a movie theater Thursday night, killing two and wounding nine others before turning his gun on himself.

[‘This is going to affect the community for a long time': Town mourns shooting victim Mayci Breaux]

“Jillian was a force, you know? She did things she wanted to do,” her friend Lucius Fontenot told The Washington Post on Friday.

Fontenot and Johnson met in the art department at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, from which Johnson graduated in 2004. Then, as she did in the years after, Johnson always had her hand in something imaginative, Fontenot said.

“She had all this energy,” he recalled. “She was just always creative.”

Fontenot added: “She was friendly, smiling, and fought for what she believed in. She made the community better.”

Said Whitney Broussard, another friend: “This is a small town. Thinking about the number people involved — there’s a lot of folks in this community who are going to be connected. Everybody is just shocked and sad.”

Johnson’s work — from the businesses she owned to the regional bluegrass band she helped start — were often projects she took on with those she loved most.

“She was the love of my life and I will miss her always,” read a Facebook post from Red Arrow Workshop, the gift store Johnson ran with her husband, Jason Brown. “This was a senseless act and, as is the case with all such acts, there is no playbook, no rules on how to cope. We’re trying our best to pull ourselves together. We’re putting one foot in front of the other. Thank you all.”

Johnson, the statement said, was attending the Thursday night screening of “Trainwreck” with her best friend, who was not identified.

mr crab 07-24-2015 06:20 PM

I know for a fact a few S.C. members that knew Jillian personally are mourning right now.

duckman1911 07-24-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764945)
I was being sarcastic. You missed the point. Just give it a while before these womens lives are reduced to an argument about the legalities on toting a pistol around. Empathy......The ability to put yourself in the shoes of the victims families and friends. These women were our neighbors. JUst get off the gas pedal a little.

I'm sorry I missed you're point man. I have all or none. Just who I am. It upsets some people I understand but I will always be honest. Like it or not I won't lie about how I feel. I know I'm not everyone but I like it straight. Fishin Pox doesn't like me but I like that about him. He has balls enough to let it be known he doesn't like me. He stands where he stands and I respect that. We almost always disagree but I reapect it.

mr crab 07-24-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764959)
I'm sorry I missed you're point man. I have all or none. Just who I am. It upsets some people I understand but I will always be honest. Like it or not I won't lie about how I feel. I know I'm not everyone but I like it straight. Fishin Pox doesn't like me but I like that about him. He has balls enough to let it be known he doesn't like me. He stands where he stands and I respect that. We almost always disagree but I reapect it.

15 uses of the words "i, I'm, & me" (i counted) in that post. It's not about YOU.

mr crab 07-24-2015 07:11 PM

Again... 2 women were brutally murdered at a movie theatre last night for no reason at all. Let that sink in.

duckman1911 07-24-2015 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764962)
15 uses of the words "i, I'm, & me" (i counted) in that post. It's not about YOU.

I said I like a guy that hates me because he is at least honest about it and you counted how many times I said I? 4. Don't worry with the math I did it for you. oh we're to 5 now.

duckman1911 07-24-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764962)
15 uses of the words "i, I'm, & me" (i counted) in that post. It's not about YOU.

Did you feel I was being arrogant? How else was I/we/us/everyone supposed to explain it? Let me know please.

mr crab 07-24-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764949)
I know for a fact a few S.C. members that knew Jillian personally are mourning right now.

This tragedy is not about duckman's pistol that he carries around, it's not about duckmans opinions on the effectiveness of gun laws, it's not about duckman's respect for pox, it's not about duckman. Just let it be not about duckman. That's all I'm saying. There are guys i know....s.c. Members that knew these women personally. Just let this tragedy sink in some. (It hasn't been 24 hours) before its about something other than the victims, and the grief that their mourners are feeling.

Matt G 07-24-2015 07:49 PM

The problem with these tragedies is its NEVER about the victims. After the lunatic's name and face is plastard all over the national news with little mention of the victims , both sides of the isle find a way to politicize it.

mr crab 07-24-2015 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 764972)
The problem with these tragedies is its NEVER about the victims. After the lunatic's name and face is plastard all over the national news with little mention of the victims , both sides of the isle find a way to politicize it.

I was hoping that s.c. could do better than that.

duckman1911 07-24-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764967)
This tragedy is not about duckman's pistol that he carries around, it's not about duckmans opinions on the effectiveness of gun laws, it's not about duckman's respect for pox, it's not about duckman. Just let it be not about duckman. That's all I'm saying. There are guys i know....s.c. Members that knew these women personally. Just let this tragedy sink in some. (It hasn't been 24 hours) before its about something other than the victims, and the grief that their mourners are feeling.

Yeah I understand what you're saying. When you're watching tv tonight are you going to be thinking about your wife and kids at home safe with you or will you be thinking about the sc post that said duckman died in a car wreck on his way home from work? Fu ck me. Do what has to be done to protect you and yours. Why is that so hhard to understand?

duckman1911 07-24-2015 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=mr crab;764967]This tragedy is not about duckman's pistol that he carries around, it's not about duckmans opinions on the effectiveness of gun laws, it's not about duckman's respect for pox, it's not about duckman. Just let it be not about duckman. That's all I'm saying. There are guys i know....s.c. Members that knew these women personally. Just let this tragedy sink in some. (It hasn't been 24 hours) before its about something other than the victims, and the grief that their mourners are feeling.[/QUOTE
Their death sucks but changes my life none. My death wouldn't change your life. It is how it is.

Matt G 07-24-2015 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764974)
I was hoping that s.c. could do better than that.

I think a lot of us were. I know there is a big following on this site from folks in Acadiana. This area is an amazing place. People here are truly concerned and care for their neighbors..... Well maybe not MY neighbor, but that's a story for another day. It's horrible that this happened in our back yard and not in some town we've only seen on a map, but it happened. I wish that Louisiana can take this unimaginable situation and show the country how it should be handled. First responders and investigators have already done an amazing job, now it's time for the public to do their part. Drop the political BS and say a prayer or raise a glass for the families suffering from this.

duckman1911 07-24-2015 08:45 PM

South La is beautiful and so are the people. It will take time but it will heal.wasn't tryi
nd to be a douche. Facts suck sometimes

Matt G 07-24-2015 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764986)
South La is beautiful and so are the people. It will take time but it will heal.wasn't tryi
nd to be a douche. Facts suck sometimes

I get what you're saying and definitely agree with you. $h!+ happens and then you move on. I've been called an @$$hole everyday for the past 5 or 6 years for calling it like I see it. I've just learned that sometimes it doesn't hurt to show a little comapassion for others. It'll make you see there's still hope for this country.

Bluechip 07-24-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 764991)
I get what you're saying and definitely agree with you. $h!+ happens and then you move on. I've been called an @$$hole everyday for the past 5 or 6 years for calling it like I see it. I've just learned that sometimes it doesn't hurt to show a little comapassion for others. It'll make you see there's still hope for this country.

You're beating a dead horse.... But continue on. My heart still goes out to the victims and their families. Just glad we don't have to feed, clothe and pay that bastards legal bills.

God Bless Louisiana!!!

youmyboyblue 07-24-2015 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 764938)
Good point crabs but here is the flip side. I don't know these two women. I think it's horrible that they lost their life. Gun free zones = easy chances for bad people to do harm.

So bc you don't know them you can't have condolences to offer. I don't know them and had problems sleeping over this. A major problem with society is the attitude of not caring about others. I'm not talking about caring if frank caught a limit a trout.

fishinpox 07-24-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by youmyboyblue (Post 764995)
So bc you don't know them you can't have condolences to offer. I don't know them and had problems sleeping over this. A major problem with society is the attitude of not caring about others. I'm not talking about caring if frank caught a limit a trout.


Thank you

sugardad 07-24-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by youmyboyblue (Post 764995)
So bc you don't know them you can't have condolences to offer. I don't know them and had problems sleeping over this. A major problem with society is the attitude of not caring about others. I'm not talking about caring if frank caught a limit a trout.

I'm not a regular poster on here but u are dead on like many. My wife has summer months off being a teacher and brings my 10,6 and 3 yr old to the theater in Broussard prolly twice a month, not too far from the grand in Lafayette. Told her last night stay home and buy movies on cox. Very sincere condolences to both families that lost very innocent daughters. Terrible.

Goooh 07-24-2015 11:11 PM

These types of things will continue to gain traction if we don't stop glorifying the suspects and negating the victims.

It's sickening to look back on today and feel like I've seen more of the suspect on the media and social media than I have of the victims.

duckman1911 07-25-2015 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by youmyboyblue (Post 764995)
So bc you don't know them you can't have condolences to offer. I don't know them and had problems sleeping over this. A major problem with society is the attitude of not caring about others. I'm not talking about caring if frank caught a limit a trout.

I said I think it's horrible that those two women lost their life. What more do you want?

duckman1911 07-25-2015 06:50 AM

We can all learn something from this tragedy

Davewiseman 07-25-2015 07:06 AM

I'm not for gun control but I agree with Governor Jindel, this is not the time to be talking about 'gun control'. There are people out there that are hurting because of this shooting and we ought to be grieving with these folks.

The teacher from New Iberia, ought to be given an award for bravery. After being shot in the leg, her training (fire drill) kicked in and she pulled the fire alarm, saving many lives in the other part of the theater.

Smalls 07-25-2015 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Davewiseman (Post 765028)
I'm not for gun control but I agree with Governor Jindel, this is not the time to be talking about 'gun control'. There are people out there that are hurting because of this shooting and we ought to be grieving with these folks.

The teacher from New Iberia, ought to be given an award for bravery. After being shot in the leg, her training (fire drill) kicked in and she pulled the fire alarm, saving many lives in the other part of the theater.

The stories coming out of this whole terrible event are amazing. So much bravery, and not just from emergency response. Ordinary people stepped up to help their neighbors, or even complete strangers. Evil came a knockin, and Lafayette turned it away.

I don't always agree with Jindal, but man he put that reporter (had to be a national guy) in his place. I absolutely loved his response. I mean really, yeah, everyone knows Chattanooga happened a week ago. But that is the last thing on anyone's mind HERE, IN LOUISIANA.

There will be a time to discuss the matter.

Now is not that time.

Mako19 07-25-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 764931)
I have been reading about the victims lives all day. I surprises me that not one of you have mentioned how young and beautiful Maycie Breaux was. What promise her young life held for her. Noone has mentiond what an amazing artist Jillian Johnson was. Or any of the non-profit groups she has started. Or her amazing band "The Figs". These women went to the ****ing movies guys. My daughters go to the movies....yalls do to. This story is NOT about packing heat. It should be about 2 lives that were cut short by a lunatic. I feel sad about our country. I feel sad that public shootings are not surprising anymore. What has happened to us as humans that these shootings are not an oddity? Also guys... I love me some S.C. I've made lifelong friends because of this site, but I'm very surprised that the conversation about the incident here on S.C. mirrors what I've seen on other social media. A focus on gun rights/control. Look...2 beautiful young women are dead. a wife, a mother, a daughter, a cousin, an aunt, a neighbor, a musician, a college student, a friend. That's the story ya'll. not Jindal or NRA, or cc laws.

This is exactly what I have been saying from the minute I read WolfMan's initial post! 99% of us on SC are pro guns. Why instantly make this thread a political **** storm right away? Just to make yourself look like a "hardass" on the internet.


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