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My stance all along has been that until you start trying to force churches to marry gays or lesbians, I don't care. But if that day comes that you try and force the church to marry you, then I'll be up in arms. But until then, if you want equal rights and the government is going to recognize it, fine. Just keep it to yourself, like I keep my life to myself.

My thing is, all this is is the government saying they will recognize it as a CIVIL UNION. It's no different than the government recognizing a CIVIL UNION between two divorced people. As previously mentioned, the Catholic Church doesn't recognize marriages between divorced couples unless they get an annulment. I don't see anyone up in arms over two divorced people remarrying. People engage in premarital sex, which is against church teachings.

I'll never be FOR gay marriage, but I'm not going to be against a CIVIL UNION until that union tries to push the church to recognize it.

As far as business go.....I think a business owner should be able to do what he wants, but when you open your doors to the public, you have to be ready to deal with the consequences of turning someone down. There is a reason Country Clubs and other members-only establishments exist.....so that THEY can CHOOSE their clients. Now, there is also the option of OPENLY identifying yourself as a CHRISTIAN business. How many atheists do you think shop at Crossroads Bookstore in Lake Charles? Or gays for that matter? No one seems to be complaining about a Christian bookstore. Because it is what it is.

Identify yourself as a CHRISTIAN business, and you more than likely do away with the problem. If a gay or lesbian then walks in and wants you to cater to their requests, then that is their fault when you turn them down.

I just wish my phone would quit notifying me every time a queer mfer gets a marriage license.

Its the law of the land. So is divorce! Welcome to that world. Attorneys are ready. LOL

"Queer Detector"
 

There's an app for that; it's called "Queer Detector"

Queer Detecter filters all news and social media to deliver "Straight News" the way the good lord intended. This program also filters gay music through music such as Pandora, and Spotify.

LOL

Well, no matter if we like it or not, when we die we will all have to give an account of our Life to an Almighty God. The only thing that will matter is if we received Him or rejected Him during our lifetime. I personally believe that the Bible teaches that Sodomy is wrong. I choose to believe God rather than man. That being said, there are plenty of other sins that we as "straight" people commit that are wrong as well. The big thing to me is that God says its wrong and now man is saying its ok. But, everyone has a choice to live like they want, God could have made us robots to only serve Him, but gave us free will instead. I believe homosexuality is a choice as well. Just as some people choose to take the first drink and later become alchaholics, or some choose to take that first drug and later become addicted to drugs, and so on. Some people are saying it doesnt bother them that this law has gone into effect, as long as it doesnt affect them. It might not affect you as of right now,but at what point is the line drawn that will keep it from affecting you down the road? Now that this has become legal, you will not be able to keep "known" homosexuals from being boyscout leaders, P. E. teachers, school teachers prinipals, and coaches etc. the list goes on and on. Will you feel comfortable having your kids and grand kids being tutored and mentored by them? Just a thought. Another thought is, with everyone screaming about their rights these days, and the government giving them to them; Just as Homosexuals may have early tendencies and urges of homosexuality at a young age, So do many arsenists, to set fires, and serial killers to kill things. I guess before long the government will have to give them some rights to be able to burn some stuff down, and maybe every third friday of the month make murder legal, so they dont get offended as well. And thats my take on it!! Im glad that I still live in America and can have my own opinion( for now anyway)

God doesn't care what your sexual orientation is, as long as you pay tithe

Think you got Him confused with Joel Osteen.

God also said that shellfish were bad and pork but that was the old testament before God knew what he was talking about ... right?

It's a good day. I woke up and didn't turn gay during the middle of the night

You don't think these people are already in the positions? Not a single gay person I know is out to get you. Their not trying to sodomize your or your children.

The people your talking about are child molesters and pedophiles, and they come in all sexual orientations.

As a heterosexual didn't you have "early tendencies", I'm sure you did. And I'm assuming you, like MOST others could control yourself.

Yep. There are pedophiles in the catholic church we hear about all the time but those are outliers and we shouldn't consider all gays to be pedophiles like we shouldn't consider all catholic priests to be


I think people are born gay and sometimes it takes them a while to figure it out. May even date women or get married before they figure it out. grew up with some kids that we knew were gay all along. Wife taught 4th graders and could tell you there were kids that were going to be gay and did.

If I was born a female I would probably be a lesbian just saying

i do love me a good ole muff burger

I'm interested to see how all these queers will view marriage now that they have the ability to do it. Gonna have to deal with all the BS that men and women have related to marriage, the pressure of actually getting married, the pressure of divorce, the pressure of losing half your **** when the other decides to leave. That chyt aint no fun. Now they won't be shacking up forever and holding hands all day, they'll have to deal with the nagging of one another to get married. Good Luck.

Got on my Facebook this morning and not one thing in the latest 40 or so posts about gays. Get to work and log into SC and it's still in the top two posts. Can't we just stop and be a fishing forum again? I'm just tired of hearing about it. Starting to look like Salty Facebook.

Gladly! Can you tell me where you fish and how to fish it? Feel free to send it to my Inbox if you want to avoid potlickers.

Bottom line...... Gays have the right to be married and miserable just like straight men.

I Iike tuna tacos.

Not really. In states where gay marriage has been legal for some time, identifying as a Christian business has not prevented legal fines and threats of jail for those exerciseing conscience in refusing to participate in homosexual weddings.

Christian ministers have been threatened with jail time for refusing to officiate homosexual weddings. See:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-weddings.html

Are you "up in arms" about this?

This section of the forum is for General Discussion. You don't have to view it if you don't want.

The romance will taper way off then they will just be buddies:rotfl:

Will it be lit in red, white and blue Saturday?

Read on into this article without rise colors glasses and the reason is because this is a for profit business and not a church. Therefore they have to abide by anti discrimination laws. They agreed to them when they started that business.

I wanted to get married at a church in Monroe 12 years ago but hit **** down real quick because we were not members there. They can sob that's because they are a religious institution and not a business

I get that its general discission. I use tapatalk and view timeline. Sick of looking at a rainbow colored Whitehouse. I thought it had been disgraced enough over the past 7 years but that just sends it into a downward spiral.

Sure, but what happens if the feds take away the non-profit status of churches that refuse to perform homosexual weddings?

Should the freedom of religion only apply to non-profit organizations?

Must one forfeit one's freedom of conscience to earn a living or run a for-profit business?

Isn't this the kind of thing the first amendment should protect us from?

Or does freedom of religion not apply outside the walls of a government approved non-profit church?

I'm all for gay marriage but feel the same way that forcing them is wrong. Who would want to get married in a church that doesn't want them there in the first place? For how "special" wedding days are why ruin it. I couldn't imagine a the person officiating the wedding would be enthusiastic doing so.

because its all about the orgasmic victory they get in forcing their lifestyle in peoples faces against their will

And Christians, Muslims, atheist, republicans and democrats don't do the same? No matter where you look a small sect of any group will try to inject themselves into others daily life. These people are called a***oles and don't usually reflect the entire population.

Whats next??????????
 

Nobody is forcing anything in anyone's face against their will.

Supreme Court justices are appointed by the president, the president is appointed by the people (majority), the passing of gay marriage was voted on by Supreme Court justices and the majority won.

That's the system, sorry it didn't go everyone's way. Maybe if it weren't for the screw ups and tunnel vision of so many past politicians on the republican side things would have turned different. The current state of our country isn't something that happened in the last 8 years, the ball has been rolling for a very very long time.

Turn off the tv and social media, and it won't be in your face.

Unless you rent space for special events, earn money as a photographer, caterer, baker, florist, DJ, or officiant of weddings.

Unless you have children in public schools where the combination of "inclusion", "diversity", and Common Core are about to have images of happy homosexual couples and math problems about the family finances of homosexual couples in nearly all the textbooks.

So are you saying a business should be forced to serve someone? Forgive me if I misundstand you.

Im gonna marry my Duck Call and my Power Pole.

Hmm...

Power pole.lmao
Hell why not. You shouldn't be repressed. It's your right. I'm starting to think my 4wheeler and AR are looking sexy. I see a lasting relationship building. If it's bad to oppress peoples lifestyle and not discriminate I guess I'm going to walmart naked. It's hot and that's what I want to do so that should be ok right?

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I'm pretty sure it won't turn my children gay if that is actually the case.

And all these same arguments were being made around the time of integration.

I Can't believe they ever put brown folk in our text books! We are supposed to ignore everything that isn't white and Christian, and just act like they don't exist.

The issue is we are forced to accept their way of life and beliefs yet if we ask the same it's discrimination. I mean do you honestly think a gay baker will ever have to pay restitution for refusing to make a wedding cake for a straight christian couple? You know that will never happen.
Same with athiests. How many times have nativity scenes had to be removed because some butthurt athiest whined? First off how can you be offeneded by something you say doesn't exist? I don't believe in unicorns but if my neighbor buys a unicorn statue I'm not going to get butthurt about it.

This is the link MG showed and if you actually look into it, there is some merit to it because it is a FOR profit organization and not a religious institution. IF it was a church, it would be different. The court is just upholding the law put in place for discrimination.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-weddings.html

From the link:
According to the lawsuit, the wedding chapel is registered with the state as a “religious corporation” limited to performing “one-man-one-woman marriages as defined by the Holy Bible.”

But the chapel is also registered as a for-profit business – not as a church or place of worship – and city officials said that means the owners must comply with a local nondiscrimination ordinance.

That ordinance, passed last year, prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation, and it applies to housing, employment and public accommodation.

If you are a business owner (which this chapel is and the bakery in Oregon), you have to adhere to the laws of discrimination.

That doesn't mean you can't refuse service to someone who has no shoes, shirt, sagging pants, or drunk, or talking on cellphone, etc. You can tell them to get out.

It is what it is

Couldn't find the link on my phone. If I have no shoes, shirt, clothes on period and I'm on my phone and you ask me to leave aren't you at that point discrimating against me and my lifestyle? As long as I'm not threatening anyone it should be ok. If I'm minding my own business and grocery shopping naked I should be left alone right? If you say no because that's offense just ask a nudist if they feel the same way.

Not the same. It depends on what the anti-discrimination law of your state, city, or whatever is. It's usually something like can't discriminate on the basis of race, gender, or religious preference, or whatever.

Shoes, shirts, sagging pants, drunk, talking on cellphones aren't covered under that. That is why on your business you can have a sign that says No Shirt No Shoes No Service, or No Sagging, etc. because you aren't discriminating against anyone's race or religion. You can't have a sign that says No Muslims or No Hispanics though

And as far as walking around in a grocery store naked, that is illegal. Doesn't matter if you are black, white, or gay, or trisexual, you are getting arrested for public indecency

It is a privately owned business no different than the house I own. I own it. You are there because I allow it. If I don't like your blue shirt you'll leave. Any reason I choose as long as I own it. It is not public it is private and you are there because I allow you to be.

Don't have a sign just too busy to work on their crap.

I will glady set them up an appointment though as long as they are willing to wait 8/12 months. Busy busy busy.

As far as your business, you have that right for sure. You can refuse service to anyone you please (people with blue shirts even) as long as it's not discriminating against race or sexual orientation, or religion, or whatever laws you fall under

Your house you can pretty much do what you want because its not a for profit business. If you are running a shop out of your home though, its then a for profit business and falls back into the above category

It falls where I say it falls. Sorry not trying to be a douche but I serve no person I don't want to. The reason why is easy to find. Just too busy or you have on a blue shirt and I don't like it. It's easy to be selective. Once you can marry your dog do I have to allow it? Who cleans up the s hi t when someones husband or wife takes a dump on my office floor?
Sorry but I couldn't resist being a smart azz

This is great.


This isn't quite the case. The things Duck brought up are protected classes.

The same thing people try to sue for (fired for racial reason, not hired because of a particular sex). And yes you can be sued for not serving someone because they are a particular something or other. They just have to prove that was the reason.

that will ALL be open for discussion when you are sued.
I would not be surprised if there are no Morris Bart adds asking if you butt hurts over not being taken care of at some business

All I know is, I wish I was licensed to perform ceremonies and had a venue to rent. There is some money to be made in the first few months of this ruling. Couples who have waited years for this will be rushing to get hitched ASAP.