Keakar the vinegar stuff that you seen doesn't work.

When you on your way from LaPlace to GM stop in Raceland and get with Mike or Mr. Toddy and they will fix you up. They know what works and what doesn't.

In a 4 gallon sprayer I use 4 1/2 oz Roundup, 4 1/2 oz 2-4d and 1 oz of dish soap. That seems to keep everything brown

Here is some stuff that I used to use in Rural Electrical Substations. At that time I was a certified applicator for right-of way kills everything.
If you can fine Spike, it will do the trick for minimum of Five Years
Arsenal works well
Krovar is another that works well, but need a mix of Diuron.
Those are the ones I am familiar with. and that is why you see substations and no vegetation growing.
Not sure of the cost, it was supplied to me.
I have mix rates at the house I used to use.
Lastly, any of the mentioned above may not be good around water, but that depends on what the label states.

One word...........

ERASER

Two words:

Weed Eater :spineyes:

thanks for the help guys

just wondering if any of these will help keep things like ants, fleas, and ground termites away as well?

do they kill everything above and below ground? would be a nice bonus.

Dont think thats gonna help with the bugs, but Talstar is one of the best things on the market for ants and Termidor is awesome for termites. I sell both at my nursery. Termidor is what is used by most of ther termite guys. Very good on flea infestations too. Also same ingredient in it as whats in your frontline dog, flea and tick medication. I also have some new bait that kills the rasberry crazy ants. If you dont know what they are, just wait a lil while, they are coming.:(

which is the same as cornerstone, ranger pro, roundup, joe blows weed killer,... 41% glyphosate