Just learned the real time data is not really working right ??
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So does that not make it real time?

Presentation may get posted on CPRA website.

Everyone bailing out after the weirs discussion.

25 or bust come on W stand up and fight.

I went to smoke and get a beer lol

Is that you that asked about getting the power point?

Nah, I'm too busy downing these free CCA cookies. Lmao!

This **** is just as good as live web cam
...well , almost
Keep em coming

Are you and W sitting together?

Does Miss Leanne have a last name?

O good news

The corp of engineers don't have any money and the chick talking pays for everything

Was standing next to him. Now in the kitchen.

Leann's last name is Sharp. She is with CPRA in Laffy.

Run down

Weirs
Waiting on rain and committe ( who is like big foot you hear about him but don't see em)

dredging
Don't ask any question because we don't have a ****ing clue what is going on
And we don't have any money


Oysters up next

Rebuilding washout got dodged very quickly.

Thanks all y'all for goin. Easy limit of flounder wit no one on the water lol

Oyster info was discouraging


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Can you be more specific?

I was hoping for more questions from some of our more vocal members

W... No questions bruh?
I thought you were gonna raise the roof up in here


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Driving now


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Once I realized those people had no clue I just sucked my drink down and shook my head

Weirs were a Joke from the get go ... This was not a history lesson and "the management plan" is so damn outdated it's stupid

Like they said "Miami corp is biggest land holder -= big duck hunting money "

I did just ask about the outdated plan and commission meetings

Answer: no set schedule for meetings and their stance was the management plan was working until the Hurricane so they are sticking with it


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Why do you think the management plan is outdated?

Did you hear the date it was established ??! Was it like 1970?

1987


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So because it's 27 years old its outdated? Terrible reason

Sounds like it went kinda like our meetings at the plant

So, from what I'm gathering, they held a meeting just to hold one? Is anything being accomplished?

You haven't learned by now that W is all talk, no action??? He knows everything about everything and is smarter than everyone, just lacks the male parts to actually do anything.

So, how many attendees were at the meeting?

How did the CCA reps pitch the meeting?

Was the dissatisfaction of the attendees communicated to the CCA reps?

What did Pausina say? Does he understand the need to move toward science-based management? Does he appreciate that the oyster reef destruction is hurting the fishery?

Thoughts on CCA meeting tonight on state of Calcasieu fishery
 

The meeting was to give information and start dialogue between fishermen and government

I think it was a good meeting... I learned alot... Wish I would have made a list of questions that you guys raised on here... I tried to ask a couple that I remembered

I did ask about the Trout assessments since 2010... Answer: that data is only published every 3-5 years


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I did not see you there

O wait your the internet guy who hides !! Man your boy Adams was there waiting for you !!
Said we could watch

From what I gather that's what they do. They hold meetings so they can say they did. No different from DU or N W T F. Just a bunch of working people paying dues to some BS club that claims to care about their concerns. Reallity is a bunch of people paying dues to fund elaborate fishing and hunting trips for the higher ups.

Left before they got to the oyster part of it. Everything before that was a waste if time.

Love this


We can get a 25 to 15 trout reduction with zero science
Triple limits with zero science

But can't stop oyster dredging with tons of science and data ??

Kind of like our president runs things

Burn.....

Oyster graph plainly states the oysters are suffering since dredging started. The guy there was wl&f. It take legislature to change oyster regs.


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I should have kept going west and gone to the camp rather than sit through that. Head cca guy said there was definite data from Mississippi but could not say where is was published. The oyster discussion was the best part imo. I took it that the game wardens just ticket for over fishing, if I get caught over the limit they can take my boat and license but not oystermen?

Who was who in there?

Oh and they admitted when limit changed in 05 that the trout populations were perfectly fine, and that it was a social issue.

its gonna take a few days for my blood pressure to come down. Did I actually call the COE lady stupid or did it just come across like that? all kinda fuzzy.

CPR and weirs big plan is to just wait on rain because anything else would takes years of planning and red tape, plus they dont own anything they just consult the "committee" pretty sure Chuck said that 68 times

Oysters - there is no way that map with the sonar'd "reef" areas is up to date.

Whoever the guy that said I didn't come in here with a belt buckle on and and a cowboy hat I am not from Texas haha. He had a lot of good points

Yes you did. LOL



I was the guy in the blue FD tshirt that asked about the commission minimum sack limit and the Washout growing so much.

Yea, I liked the "I'm not from Texas guy". Educated and well spoken.

I like the map that the guy said of we take away the marsh and just leave land this is what we have

Hell my camp is not even on solid land it's on floating water as per those magic maps they all use

The triple tail data from Mississippi has not been published or peer reviewed, thus it was only hear-say from the CCA rep who represented it to LWC. And the data on triple tail was life history data from Mississippi waters. There were no life history data or stock assessments from Louisiana waters at all.

We wrote to LWC pointing out that there is available data on triple tail in Louisiana waters (collected by NOAA and other federal groups) and asking them whether the stock data from Louisiana supported imposing the limits. We received no response, and by all appearances, the data from Louisiana waters was not considered.

This is a great example of CCA claiming that their management positions have scientific support, when they do not.

Would it make sense to manage the Louisiana deer herd based on Mississippi data?

They did admit the 25-15 reduction was not based on the science... He said the fishery was in good condition.

David Cresson said the Tripletail limit was based on the studies of 1 man (i think Dr Harris) who is the premier guru on the subject. Based on his recommendations CCA petitioned for the change and it was passed.

There seemed to be a big push about the oysters. Its possible something positive could come from this meeting in that regard. Specifically with adding back habitat in the form of limestone/concrete/shells. Another part of the oyster issue that was stressed was the leasing. Good points made there.


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Good to have 'em on record on that.

Do you happen to remember if the graph included 2014 data?

had some but wasn't complete. had their stock estimates

Awesome, thanks.

If it's a social issue then it would benefit someone/something. Who/what the hell is benefitting from it?