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1fastmerc 05-25-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragin_Cajun (Post 437437)
I take the non violent route......box of saltine crackers.......create my own diving birds in the middle of the lake and when you see them comming....leave!

Touchet!

Lol


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RonnieF 05-25-2012 09:24 AM

I'm curious about these figure 8's and circles y'all talk about? Are they done while idling? 1/4 throttle? Half throttle?
If a wake is being made, you never know when some opportunistic person will fall, hurt his back, then next thing you know Morris Bart is contacting you.
Just something else to think about besides lures, fists, or lead flying.

jchief 05-25-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RonnieF (Post 437439)
I'm curious about these figure 8's and circles y'all talk about? Are they done while idling? 1/4 throttle? Half throttle?
If a wake is being made, you never know when some opportunistic person will fall, hurt his back, then next thing you know Morris Bart is contacting you.
Just something else to think about besides lures, fists, or lead flying.

You are responsible for your wake.

RonnieF 05-25-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jchief (Post 437445)
You are responsible for your wake.

That's exactly what I was getting at. Plus damages caused by your wake. Some people will prefer to skip the confrontation part and go straight to litigation.

hargroderauto 05-25-2012 09:42 AM

Potlicking?
 
Please describe this term to me. I'm new at fishing salt or brackish water and would like to avoid any confrontation while on the water. I always have my kids with me and would hate to have to defend myself in front of them from an irate seasoned fisherman. I would hate to lose my temper in front of my kids and worse would hate to have to prove why I had to use deadly force...God forbid.

inchspinner 05-25-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hargroderauto (Post 437466)
Please describe this term to me. I'm new at fishing salt or brackish water and would like to avoid any confrontation while on the water. I always have my kids with me and would hate to have to defend myself in front of them from an irate seasoned fisherman. I would hate to lose my temper in front of my kids and worse would hate to have to prove why I had to use deadly force...God forbid.

Good stuff there.....just be curtious...if you dont know dont do it avoid boats on anchor, working birds when someones on em, and if they are drifting with the current or wind the go way around em to the back or go a good ways ahead of to cut through...just think before your actions..

"W" 05-25-2012 09:54 AM

Breaking news


CSI of lake Charles is on the scene of a 3 boat shoot out

Reports coming In are ....two boats were fishing birds when the grou crossed over a reef in which cut off a guys drift .

There was some boats going around each other when shots were fired

Semi auto weapons were involves and two X raps

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They have the long point is taped off until farther notice ...

hargroderauto 05-25-2012 09:54 AM

That makes sense, will do thanks.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-25-2012 09:55 AM

Reading this thread is why you won't see me on biglake, and it's not because i don't know what i'm doing. It's not wanting to deal with this bull **** over a fish! I'd rather go perch jerk on the river then deal with the sob's that think they own big lake!

BIG RED 1983 05-25-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragin_Cajun (Post 437437)
I take the non violent route......box of saltine crackers.......create my own diving birds in the middle of the lake and when you see them comming....leave!

Touchet!

we usually have pringles in the boat and that works good also it is hilarious to watch people flock to birds working pringles

huntin fool 05-25-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 437417)
Just start bass fishin the calcasieu

_______ no! We already got enough damn spoons fishing it.

Top Dawg 05-25-2012 10:27 AM

Lol

ckinchen 05-25-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by inchspinner (Post 437474)
drifting with the current or wind the go way around em to the back or go a good ways ahead of to cut through...just think before your actions..

And that is the part people have a hard time with. Someone is running in the lake which is full of boats trying to be nice to other boaters it is very hard for them to tell if you are drifiting and where you are drifting to. So lets say X fishermen is drifting the south bank of big lake moving to the west and will eventually end up in the channel. Is the entire south bank (all X miles of it) off limits to anyone because X is headed that way. Everyone's opinon of "enough" room is different. Some here say 1,000 yards, some say 300 yards, etc... There is no way for your average guy that fishes six times a year to keep up with the latest rules of what will and will not start a huge incident.

Reefman 05-25-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 437346)
. I am constantly embarrassed by some of the comments that I see on here.

Until we get back to fishing for fun and relaxing on the water instead of constantly expecting and anticipating the next "pilgrim" to cause you a problem these types of things will only get worse.

Just my opinion.

Great comments here.
I compete everyday in business; when I'm on the water I think about nothing else but finding and hookin' a spec. I have no desire to get into turf battles on public waters. If I sense uneasiness from other boats in my proximity I leave to find other areas to fish. I really don't mind sharing an area with another boat or two if we're on a school in a tight area. Often the constant catching of fish will keep the school aggressive and biting. Just tell the other boats what you expect and how to anchor or drift the school in a polite manner. Works great.

Anger, aggression, entitlement are emotions best left in the truck and not in a boat.

inchspinner 05-25-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 437506)
And that is the part people have a hard time with. Someone is running in the lake which is full of boats trying to be nice to other boaters it is very hard for them to tell if you are drifiting and where you are drifting to. So lets say X fishermen is drifting the south bank of big lake moving to the west and will eventually end up in the channel. Is the entire south bank (all X miles of it) off limits to anyone because X is headed that way. Everyone's opinon of "enough" room is different. Some here say 1,000 yards, some say 300 yards, etc... There is no way for your average guy that fishes six times a year to keep up with the latest rules of what will and will not start a huge incident.

This is true but there are no dotted lines or white lines telling you what and where you can go....its the GOLDEN RULE.....if you dont remember it ill refresh ya.....DUE UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO YOU...i teach my kids this....iits also having respect for other boaters that pay for their boats just like you do......and if you dont respect well then KARMA is a beeetch....maybe not from me but someone else will do it to rhem down the road.....thats the way I LIVE....

ckinchen 05-25-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by inchspinner (Post 437533)
This is true but there are no dotted lines or white lines telling you what and where you can go....its the GOLDEN RULE.....if you dont remember it ill refresh ya.....DUE UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO YOU...i teach my kids this....iits also having respect for other boaters that pay for their boats just like you do......and if you dont respect well then KARMA is a beeetch....maybe not from me but someone else will do it to rhem down the road.....thats the way I LIVE....

Well said, I agree 100%.

SGib 05-25-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by inchspinner (Post 437533)
This is true but there are no dotted lines or white lines telling you what and where you can go....its the GOLDEN RULE.....if you dont remember it ill refresh ya.....DUE UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO YOU...i teach my kids this....iits also having respect for other boaters that pay for their boats just like you do......and if you dont respect well then KARMA is a beeetch....maybe not from me but someone else will do it to rhem down the road.....thats the way I LIVE....

Preach it!!

mikedatiger 05-25-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by inchspinner (Post 437533)
This is true but there are no dotted lines or white lines telling you what and where you can go....its the GOLDEN RULE.....if you dont remember it ill refresh ya.....DUE UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO YOU...i teach my kids this....iits also having respect for other boaters that pay for their boats just like you do......and if you dont respect well then KARMA is a beeetch....maybe not from me but someone else will do it to rhem down the road.....thats the way I LIVE....


AMEN

elcamino 05-25-2012 11:44 AM

I've been cut off, drifted up on, boats run by too close full throttle, etc and it is frustrating. But to retaliate by doing figure 8's around someone or getting into a fight over a fishing spot is rediculous. especially when the sheriffs office has to go tell my wife and kids I just got shot because of this retaliation. If you take fishing that serious, you need a new hobby. And don't preach about, " I pay a boat note, fuel, tackle, etc. so I take this serious", Most of us on here fish because we choose to, not because we have to.

Ray 05-25-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by evis102 (Post 437299)
To be honest it is the first confirmed fist fight on the water I have heard of. I really hope it's the last, all we need is sheriffs slow rolling around the lake like they do at Contraband.

Them's differnt Sheriff's Dept.
Commisary is down in Da Parish.

"W" 05-25-2012 12:33 PM

I'm about to fight at the landing....watching people who can't back a boat up



If you can't back a boat up straight or at least in two try you don't need to own a boat

inchspinner 05-25-2012 12:38 PM

U mad.....dont get your arse whooped by one of those weir fisherman lol

1fastmerc 05-25-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 437596)
I'm about to fight at the landing....watching people who can't back a boat up



If you can't back a boat up straight or at least in two try you don't need to own a boat

Tell me what's it like being perfect at everything in life. I want to know whats like to never have a learning curve or have to learn period.


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DUCKGOGETTER 05-25-2012 12:51 PM

Man i think they need to change the name from calcaseau lake to lake w. Let us all know when we can fish you lake sir!

Salty 05-25-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 437603)
Tell me what's it like being perfect at everything in life. I want to know whats like to never have a learning curve or have to learn period.


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At least you know what it's like to graduate from high school. ;) :cool: :rolleyes: :smokin:

inchspinner 05-25-2012 01:20 PM

Hes mad, cutler sucks and he hasnt caught a trout in over a week n a half lol.

Big Kahunaz 05-25-2012 02:28 PM

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Dude's gonna have a rootin tootin coronary! Lol. Chilax Waltrip
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SULPHITE 05-25-2012 02:32 PM

4g and a full charge...ballin'

lsufish 05-25-2012 03:18 PM

The problem i see is that right now there is another thread on this site where someone suggested creating "big lake fishing etiquette" flyers and posting/handing them out at marinas, fishing stores, etc.. IMO a very good idea that could be a great teaching tool for a novice about to head out on the water who otherwise wouldn't know better. THat thread has 3 replys total. Instead, people rather stay on this thread going back and forth and not solving anything. You will never fully eliminate inconsiderate people on the water, just as you wont eliminate them in life, but a little education would go a long way in helping cure this issue. I would imagine most people that are on the recieving end of a "figure 8" aren't inconsiderate, just uneducated.

Lets start being part of the solution instead of contributing to the problem.

Salty 05-25-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lsufish (Post 437709)
The problem i see is that right now there is another thread on this site where someone suggested creating "big lake fishing etiquette" flyers and posting/handing them out at marinas, fishing stores, etc.. IMO a very good idea that could be a great teaching tool for a novice about to head out on the water who otherwise wouldn't know better. THat thread has 3 replys total. Instead, people rather stay on this thread going back and forth and not solving anything. You will never fully eliminate inconsiderate people on the water, just as you wont eliminate them in life, but a little education would go a long way in helping cure this issue. I would imagine most people that are on the recieving end of a "figure 8" aren't inconsiderate, just uneducated.

Lets start being part of the solution instead of contributing to the problem.

What would the consider the person on the giving end?

lsufish 05-25-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 437730)
What would the consider the person on the giving end?

I'm not following you...?

PaulMyers 05-25-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lsufish (Post 437760)
I'm not following you...?

You're lucky!

bull1134 05-25-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 437507)
Great comments here.
I compete everyday in business; when I'm on the water I think about nothing else but finding and hookin' a spec. I have no desire to get into turf battles on public waters. If I sense uneasiness from other boats in my proximity I leave to find other areas to fish. I really don't mind sharing an area with another boat or two if we're on a school in a tight area. Often the constant catching of fish will keep the school aggressive and biting. Just tell the other boats what you expect and how to anchor or drift the school in a polite manner. Works great.

Anger, aggression, entitlement are emotions best left in the truck and not in a boat.

amen!

MathGeek 05-25-2012 07:20 PM

I think all would do well to remember that the competition is with the fish, not with other anglers. I remember fishing the jetties down at belle pass last summer. We anchored about 50 yards from the next boat down. There were mullet everywhere and the bull reds were hitting them, so of course, we try and net some mullet. The next boat down had already caught a red or two on the mullet and when they saw what we were doing, they asked us to come alongside of them so they could give us some of their mullet. I thought the waves were too high for a safe exchange of that sort, so I thanked them and politely declined. But my point is that the boat next to us was incredibly friendly and wanted to help us catch fish more than they were worried about us intruding on their space.

We've fished jetties at belle pass on a number of occasions and it seems like 50 yards or so is the "polite" distance apart that the boats tend to anchor. If someone complained and wanted a bit more room, I'd certainly give it to them.

I've never had an issue with boats getting uncomfortably close in big lake, but we tend to fish the weekdays and find something else to do on the predictably busy days, or we fish the cameron jetties instead where we've never had a problem finding a good spot at least 100 yards away from the next boat. With the stiffer tides at the cameron jetties, I prefer to give other boats a lot more room, and there tends to be more room there for the boats to spread out.

Ray 05-25-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lsufish (Post 437709)
The problem i see is that right now there is another thread on this site where someone suggested creating "big lake fishing etiquette" flyers and posting/handing them out at marinas, fishing stores, etc.. IMO a very good idea that could be a great teaching tool for a novice about to head out on the water who otherwise wouldn't know better. THat thread has 3 replys total. Instead, people rather stay on this thread going back and forth and not solving anything. You will never fully eliminate inconsiderate people on the water, just as you wont eliminate them in life, but a little education would go a long way in helping cure this issue. I would imagine most people that are on the recieving end of a "figure 8" aren't inconsiderate, just uneducated.

Lets start being part of the solution instead of contributing to the problem.

If someone throws a wake on you, just take a picture and send it to the LDWF. They will pay the offender a visit and hand him some paperwork.
It's better to get him mad than for you to get mad.

Salty 05-25-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lsufish (Post 437760)
I'm not following you...?

You wrote:


Quote:

Originally Posted by lsufish (Post 437709)
I would imagine most people that are on the recieving end of a "figure 8" aren't inconsiderate, just uneducated.


What is the person on the giving end of a "figure 8".....inconsiderate or uneducated?

donniej 05-25-2012 07:48 PM

I think the person on the receiving end of a figure 8 should feel threatned and disable the offenders motor immediately with a couple rounds to the cowling!

1fastmerc 05-25-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray (Post 437800)
If someone throws a wake on you, just take a picture and send it to the LDWF. They will pay the offender a visit and hand him some paperwork.
It's better to get him mad than for you to get mad.

That's exactly what I was thinking film them with your phone and let ldwf take care of em.


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Salty 05-25-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 437816)
That's exactly what I was thinking film them with your phone and let ldwf take care of em.


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Ban 'em from Big Lake.

Can you imagine the state of mind the lil guy would be in if he were banned from fishing Big Lake?

:eek:

:help:

:work:

jchief 05-25-2012 09:25 PM

found hung for real

lsufish 05-25-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 437808)
You wrote:





What is the person on the giving end of a "figure 8".....inconsiderate or uneducated?

My point is most people that end up with dubya doing figure 8's around their boat probably don't know any better. Therefore I believe they aren't inconsiderate, as much as they are uneducated. I think if they knew what they were doing they wouldn't cut people off "potlick" etc in the first place.

The people that give figure 8s aren't uneducated or inconsiderate... Just classless.

1fastmerc 05-25-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 437819)
Ban 'em from Big Lake.

Can you imagine the state of mind the lil guy would be in if he were banned from fishing Big Lake?

:eek:

:help:

:work:

It's worth a try. :-)


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Salty 05-25-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lsufish (Post 437883)
My point is most people that end up with dubya doing figure 8's around their boat probably don't know any better. Therefore I believe they aren't inconsiderate, as much as they are uneducated. I think if they knew what they were doing they wouldn't cut people off "potlick" etc in the first place.

The people that give figure 8s aren't uneducated or inconsiderate... probably just short

Oh, I gotcha.

DannyI 05-25-2012 11:51 PM

You know, it doesn't matter where you at, on the water, driving down the road, hunting, there are people who have no courtesy to anyone else. And sometimes as upset as I get with these fools, I just move on, because sure as I say something or do something, that fool will beat da mess out of me or shoot me. NOT WORTH IT! And I would hate to go to prison protecting myself from that fool. So just learn to "move on", it's called "Big" Lake for a reason, lots of area to fish, lots of fish to catch. Some will never learn respect.

Salty 05-26-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DannyI (Post 437897)
You know, it doesn't matter where you at, on the water, driving down the road, hunting, there are people who have no courtesy to anyone else. And sometimes as upset as I get with these fools, I just move on, because sure as I say something or do something, that fool will beat da mess out of me or shoot me. NOT WORTH IT! And I would hate to go to prison protecting myself from that fool. So just learn to "move on", it's called "Big" Lake for a reason, lots of area to fish, lots of fish to catch. Some will never learn respect.

Danny, I believe the exact opposite is the reason why it's so bad over there. If you took the same amount of people on "Big" Lake for the "Shootout" and spread them out under the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway....there would be ample area for each boat to fish without hindering someone else. There are too many boats over there relative to the area they have to fish. If you think "Big" Lake is big......you need to come check out the lakes on this side of the state. We got duck ponds that size. :rolleyes: ;)


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