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Reefman 05-01-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 426447)
What should I use to kill grass?

Your disking/plowing twice will kill the grass. The only area to use herbicide is the sunflower area. Using herbicide on brown top will not only stunt its growth but also kill your goat weed and what birdeye will come up with the millet.
I've called my friend who prepares the fields to give me the name and ratio of the herbicide he uses for the sunflowers.

Dual 21oz to an acre
Spartan 4 oz to an acre.
8lbs of prodovic sunflower seed per acre (broadcasted).

Brown top millet broadcasted 20lbs/acre.

Fertilizer 25-15-15 200lbs/acre

hope this helps....

Micah 05-01-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 426459)
Your disking/plowing twice will kill the grass. The only area to use herbicide is the sunflower area. Using herbicide on brown top will not only stunt its growth but also kill your goat weed and what birdeye will come up with the millet.
I've called my friend who prepares the fields to give me the name and ratio of the herbicide he uses for the sunflowers.

Dual 21oz to an acre
Spartan 4 oz to an acre.
8lbs of prodovic sunflower seed per acre (broadcasted).

Brown top millet broadcasted 20lbs/acre.

Fertilizer 25-15-15 200lbs/acre

hope this helps....

Thanks man, you've been a big help!!!!

Micah 05-01-2012 12:59 PM

I'll post some pics of my progress....I'm pumped. We got lots of birds in the area already and I can kill a few just pass shooting, I'm hoping by planting I can invite people for some shoots and kill enough to make all this worth it.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by micah (Post 426490)
i'll post some pics of my progress....i'm pumped. We got lots of birds in the area already and i can kill a few just pass shooting, i'm hoping by planting i can invite people for some shoots and kill enough to make all this worth it.

holla if you need some help getting it ready?

Micah 05-01-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 426492)
holla if you need some help getting it ready?

Shouldn't be too bad but I'll give you a call if I need some help.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 01:23 PM

Been looking on the internet about different dove plots, but it looks Reefman knows his ****!!!

Reefman 05-01-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 426498)
Been looking on the internet about different dove plots, but it looks Reefman knows his ****!!!

Thanks Chris, however I know very little. I just follow orders from the head guy of our dove club. He's now retired and devotes all his time to preparing dove plots. He really knows his *****! Big Time!

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by reefman (Post 426502)
thanks chris, however i know very little. I just follow orders from the head guy of our dove club. He's now retired and devotes all his time to preparing dove plots. He really knows his *****! Big time!


lol!!!!!!!!!! Well someone knows their ****!!!!

Micah 05-01-2012 04:41 PM

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Anyone know what these seeds are or if they are worth anything? Got em all over.

Duck Butter 05-02-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 426598)
Anyone know what these seeds are or if they are worth anything? Got em all over.

Almost looks like a wild onion/garlic (Allium spp.) but can't see the leaves or the plant in that picture. If it smells like onions then thats it. My wife did tell me I was wrong on something yesterday, so....:)

DUCKGOGETTER 05-02-2012 09:58 AM

Not sure what that is

Gottogo49 05-02-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 426457)
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=CAPA11

This is what people down here call birdseye. Its an invasive exotic weed that farmers hate but doves really like!

False croton (Goatweed is a croton) is another name

LSU will tell you how to kill it, but not grow it! Better pics in here

http://www.lsuagcenter.com/en/crops_...+palustris.htm

Thanks for the pics, yep, I've seen those little boogers before. Didn't realize how good/bad they were.

Duckaholic 05-02-2012 01:41 PM

Texasweed
 
You can't buy "Birdeye" seed. Birdeye is actually Texasweed or Mexicanweed. It grows naturally here in Southwest Louisiana when conditions are right. Birdeye is what doves would rather eat while they are in this area but they will eat other small grain if the conditions are right. I shot a good number of birds last year in a milo field but it was bush hogged down to the ground and easy for them to access.

check out this link http://www.lsuagcenter.com/en/crops_...+palustris.htm

DUCKGOGETTER 05-02-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duckaholic (Post 427150)
you can't buy "birdeye" seed. Birdeye is actually texasweed or mexicanweed. It grows naturally here in southwest louisiana when conditions are right. Birdeye is what doves would rather eat while they are in this area but they will eat other small grain if the conditions are right. I shot a good number of birds last year in a milo field but it was bush hogged down to the ground and easy for them to access.

Check out this link http://www.lsuagcenter.com/en/crops_...+palustris.htm


that's it!!!! Dove cacaine at it's finest! My wifes uncle is gonna let me know how the guy he knows grows it.

Micah 05-02-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 426978)
Almost looks like a wild onion/garlic (Allium spp.) but can't see the leaves or the plant in that picture. If it smells like onions then thats it. My wife did tell me I was wrong on something yesterday, so....:)

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ScubaLatt 05-02-2012 09:41 PM

I have access to about 1000 acres in Iota. Would anyone be interested in forming a Dove Club there and share in the work/cost to plant it up? Let me know and I'll see if my friend wants to go this route. It just sits there idle. There are some tree lines and a big pond in the back that borders the bayou.

Bluechip 05-02-2012 10:53 PM

I would be interested. Anyone else???

Micah 05-03-2012 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ScubaLatt (Post 427357)
I have access to about 1000 acres in Iota. Would anyone be interested in forming a Dove Club there and share in the work/cost to plant it up? Let me know and I'll see if my friend wants to go this route. It just sits there idle. There are some tree lines and a big pond in the back that borders the bayou.

How far is Iota?

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427440)
How far is Iota?

by eunice.... I would say about 45 min to hour from LC. give or take.

Micah 05-03-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltERedneck (Post 427443)
by eunice.... I would say about 45 min to hour from LC. give or take.

You ready to shoot some doves? Only 4 months for dove and teal!!!!

Duck Butter 05-03-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427248)
...

Pretty sure thats a Sisyrinchium (blue-eyed grass, but not techinally a grass, in the iris family), pretty flower, probably not much wildlife value, but its native! Several different species of it around SW La.

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427447)
You ready to shoot some doves? Only 4 months for dove and teal!!!!

lol bro i am not gonna have much of a life come August.... school is gonna start for me and this sucka gonna be buried in the books. Who am i kidding??? YEAH i am ready bro. I hope my field will be ready for geese this year.... they have been farming crawfish soooo we got the water!

Micah 05-03-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltERedneck (Post 427450)
lol bro i am not gonna have much of a life come August.... school is gonna start for me and this sucka gonna be buried in the books. Who am i kidding??? YEAH i am ready bro. I hope my field will be ready for geese this year.... they have been farming crawfish soooo we got the water!

That's cool man, hit them books. I'll just bbq and shoot doves without you.

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427453)
That's cool man, hit them books. I'll just bbq and shoot doves without you.

not gonna happen bro... good thing about hunting/fishing.... they are done in the morning soo it shouldnt affect me studying bc i dont do that anyways until late at night. :rolleyes:

DUCKGOGETTER 05-03-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by salteredneck (Post 427458)
not gonna happen bro... Good thing about hunting/fishing.... They are done in the morning soo it shouldnt affect me studying bc i dont do that anyways until late at night. :rolleyes:


man with the way you shoot it'll take you all day to kill a limit of doves! Lol!!!!!!!!!!!! Jk

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 427463)
man with the way you shoot it'll take you all day to kill a limit of doves! Lol!!!!!!!!!!!! Jk

you almost got nun chucked on that one bro! :work:

DUCKGOGETTER 05-03-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by salteredneck (Post 427465)
you almost got nun chucked on that one bro! :work:


lol!!!!!!!!!!!! Man i just can't seem to get the fever to go fishing still to pumped up on killing feathered animals. Went crabing a couple of sundays ago at the duck lease and couldn't even function with all the teal flying around.

Micah 05-03-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltERedneck (Post 427458)
not gonna happen bro... good thing about hunting/fishing.... they are done in the morning soo it shouldnt affect me studying bc i dont do that anyways until late at night. :rolleyes:

I don't plan on dove huntin in the mornings...gonna be an afternoon thing. I got babies at the house, I ain't gonna be popping off shots when the sun comes up.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-03-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by micah (Post 427468)
i don't plan on dove huntin in the mornings...gonna be an afternoon thing. I got babies at the house, i ain't gonna be popping off shots when the sun comes up.


me personally have never done good on doves in the morning. Now mid-late afternoon look out!

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427468)
I don't plan on dove huntin in the mornings...gonna be an afternoon thing. I got babies at the house, I ain't gonna be popping off shots when the sun comes up.

well that changes things. just give me the heads up and I will make arrangements.... if that S.O.B Chris Meche is invited I aint going!!! dcikgogetter. pahahahhaaha just kidding chris!

DUCKGOGETTER 05-03-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by salteredneck (Post 427470)
well that changes things. Just give me the heads up and i will make arrangements.... If that s.o.b chris meche is invited i aint going!!! Dcikgogetter. Pahahahhaaha just kidding chris!


lol!!!!!!!!! Touche!!!

Micah 05-03-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 427469)
me personally have never done good on doves in the morning. Now mid-late afternoon look out!

That's right. The reason I love to dove hunt is the cooking and drinking/hanging out afterwards.

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427472)
That's right. The reason I love to dove hunt is the cooking and drinking/hanging out afterwards.

well bro I can help with the hunting and cooking.... cant help u with the drinking unless you talking bout H2O. when we going fishing? i just got a side scan 798 hummingbird... cant wait to play in toledo with it!

DUCKGOGETTER 05-03-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by micah (Post 427472)
that's right. The reason i love to dove hunt is the cooking and drinking/hanging out afterwards.


I don't even need to hunt i'll cook and laugh at Eddies shooting skills! Well on second thought i'll bring my gun to help him out. Boom!!!!!!!!!! Lol!!

Micah 05-03-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltERedneck (Post 427482)
well bro I can help with the hunting and cooking.... cant help u with the drinking unless you talking bout H2O. when we going fishing? i just got a side scan 798 hummingbird... cant wait to play in toledo with it!

I'll have water for you. When's the Toledo trip?

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427506)
I'll have water for you. When's the Toledo trip?

dont know... talk to keith and get it set up. hopefully may 19th or so. the 12th might be hard to pull off. When are you off????

Micah 05-03-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltERedneck (Post 427521)
dont know... talk to keith and get it set up. hopefully may 19th or so. the 12th might be hard to pull off. When are you off????

Weekend of the 12th and 19th are my two weekends off. 12th is most likely a no go for me.

SaltERedneck 05-03-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 427522)
Weekend of the 12th and 19th are my two weekends off. 12th is most likely a no go for me.

call keith and tell him the 19th is the time to go. Chris wants to go also. me, u, keith, quin, chris.... sounds good to me.

Micah 05-03-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltERedneck (Post 427523)
call keith and tell him the 19th is the time to go. Chris wants to go also. me, u, keith, quin, chris.... sounds good to me.

I only know one Chris and there aint no way that guys gettin invited :rolleyes:;)

DUCKGOGETTER 05-03-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by micah (Post 427530)
i only know one chris and there aint no way that guys gettin invited :rolleyes:;)


lol!!!!!! Let me know as soon as ya'll can on a date, and i'll see what i can do. I work on saturdays and we have to have any vacation request in 3 weeks in advance, but i'll sure try.

Micah 06-27-2012 01:23 PM

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Well didn't end up planting but I got this growing like wild fire!!! This spot hasn't been cut in a couple months.

Micah 06-27-2012 01:25 PM

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This spot was cut about 3 weeks ago.

Reefman 06-28-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 453400)
Well didn't end up planting but I got this growing like wild fire!!! This spot hasn't been cut in a couple months.

I'm having dove dreams over that pic! DON'T cut that until a week before the season....In fact, don't cut it at all! Let those seeds start popping out. Those plants will produce until first frost. Dove do like a clean patch but will go into that without hesitation. At the end of Oct. bush hog it real good, windrow then burn the windrow.... Will attract another bunch of birds after you burn. You could possibly shoot through all three seasons if managed properly! Looks great...good luck!

By chance do you have any birds hanging around your field right now?????

Micah 06-28-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 454060)
I'm having dove dreams over that pic! DON'T cut that until a week before the season....In fact, don't cut it at all! Let those seeds start popping out. Those plants will produce until first frost. Dove do like a clean patch but will go into that without hesitation. At the end of Oct. bush hog it real good, windrow then burn the windrow.... Will attract another bunch of birds after you burn. You could possibly shoot through all three seasons if managed properly! Looks great...good luck!

By chance do you have any birds hanging around your field right now?????

Thanks for the additional info.

Doves stay pretty thick year round out here, I see quite a few when I'm outside.

I've noticed the last couple weeks that the bobwhite quail are thick out here too. I had to stop my truck in the road the other day to let a few cross.

Smalls 06-28-2012 12:33 PM

Oh man that's awesome that you have some bobwhite. I love those little guys. Wish we had more around, cause I would love to hunt them, but the population just isn't there, or on any of the public land I hunt. lol. And reefman is right on with what he said. Dove will jump in that thick stuff in a heart beat. They love croton (pretty sure that's what that is). OOooooh, can't wait for the season, already gettin the itch (must.....not.....shoot.....birds on bird feeder....haha).

Micah 06-28-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 454083)
Oh man that's awesome that you have some bobwhite. I love those little guys. Wish we had more around, cause I would love to hunt them, but the population just isn't there, or on any of the public land I hunt. lol. And reefman is right on with what he said. Dove will jump in that thick stuff in a heart beat. They love croton (pretty sure that's what that is). OOooooh, can't wait for the season, already gettin the itch (must.....not.....shoot.....birds on bird feeder....haha).

Yes, its woolly croton.

Micah 06-28-2012 12:40 PM

Is there even a quail season down here?

SaltERedneck 06-28-2012 12:41 PM

micah i better get a call....

DUCKGOGETTER 06-28-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by salteredneck (Post 454090)
micah i better get a call....


x2!!! Somebodies got to kill his limit for him! Lol!!!!!

Smalls 06-28-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 454088)
Is there even a quail season down here?


Yeah, very limited, think it opens up around the same time as woodcock. Just isn't as much habitat for them anymore. Very particular birds, being that they are ground dwellers, they have to have ground coverage but also room to run underneath that cover. That croton might provide them with the coverage they need. If you managed that in a particular way, if you were interested in quail, I bet you could have a bunch of birds.

And after I looked back at the pic I knew it was Wooly Croton.


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