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Jighead 06-18-2011 07:29 PM

Corky, don't bash W, you'll have to go the woodshed like I did. He's a famous guide on Lake Calcasieu.

Salty 06-18-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jighead (Post 271211)
Corky, don't bash W, you'll have to go the woodshed like I did. He's a famous guide on Lake Calcasieu.

Yeah, lay off! The man has discovered that fewer fish are being caught on weekends because of fishing pressure. :rolleyes: Friggin' genius. :cool:

"W" 06-18-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jighead (Post 271211)
Corky, don't bash W, you'll have to go the woodshed like I did. He's a famous guide on Lake Calcasieu.

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 271215)
Yeah, lay off! The man has discovered that fewer fish are being caught on weekends because of fishing pressure. :rolleyes: Friggin' genius. :cool:

:rotfl::rotfl:

Salty 06-18-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 271222)
:rotfl::rotfl:

Damn, no doubt you're so smart. :cool:

"W" 06-18-2011 07:58 PM

Salty... I guess your feeling left out on post counts and attention since your area is only a select few!!! Lmao....poor thing is needing some attention... Make a post about your last 5 years of fishing and the knowledge you have!!!

Salty 06-18-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 271231)
Salty... I guess your feeling left out on post counts and attention since your area is only a select few!!! Lmao....poor thing is needing some attention... Make a post about your last 5 years of fishing and the knowledge you have!!!

It doesn't take "knowledge" to make the cover of a major magazine....you should "no" that. :p

This theory of yours is absolutely mind-bogglin'. Amazin' that this has never been thought of before. All doubts are extinguished now. It has become crystal clear that fewer fish are caught with more fishing pressure....and that more people fish on weekends. Thanks. :cool:

Montauk17 06-18-2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 271215)
Yeah, lay off! The man has discovered that fewer fish are being caught on weekends because of fishing pressure. :rolleyes: Friggin' genius. :cool:

Wow I would have never known! :shaking:

"W" 06-18-2011 08:34 PM

Lmao.... Salty please don't flatter your self for attention with your cover shot.... 1st off you bummed a trip and you happened to make the right pose for the Camera.... There is not any info about you or your knowledge of fishing in the Magazine! Hell Bruce made the Cover and his name is no where to be found!!
But at least I had a 6 page article in that same Magazine about me and my name and knowledge was mention...so I will steal your attention

specknation 06-18-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 270787)
Yes lake P is 13 to 15 ft of water.... Big Lake is 3 to 5f....and when the spill was going on...we got every T-TOP lake P had to offer with no trolling motor and would motor right up to you and toss the anchor as far as possible

I was on fish and this one T-TOP with Duel 250 blew in threw his anchor and started grabbing shrimp... I was so pissed off...My veins were 3inch out my neck.... I drove up to this boat and ask what the hell was that....he looked clueless and said..Im just getting set up to fish.... .I said I see that but why did you just drive up here and spook all the fish out and then toss your damn anchor????? I told him this is 4ft of *&*#&&##*#*# water.... he said well Lake p we dont use Trolling motors....... I said in the most pissed off voice I had....THIS IS NOT LAKE P...ITS BIG LAKE...SO LEARN IT OR LEAVE BUT DONT COME HERE AND MESS MY FISHING UP BECAUSE YOUR A PILGRIM and wrapped 5 doughnuts and left:D

I am not doubting your story but anybody that knows anything about fishing Lake P has a trolling motor and uses it the whole time he is fishing, the spill never even came close to Lake P so maybe some of them T-Tops you speak of maybe located closer to your neck of the woods.

"W" 06-18-2011 08:47 PM

Dude I fished Lake P with 600 boats in a line and 90% were Tops and no trolling motor....can't lie about it because I saw it with my eyes....looked like soul train live

Salty 06-18-2011 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 271256)
Lmao.... Salty please don't flatter your self for attention with your cover shot.... 1st off you bummed a trip and you happened to make the right pose for the Camera.... There is not any info about you or your knowledge of fishing in the Magazine! Hell Bruce made the Cover and his name is no where to be found!!
But at least I had a 6 page article in that same Magazine about me and my name and knowledge was mention...so I will steal your attention

:rotfl:

Tell ya what.....I'll "copy 'n' paste" the article here for everybody to read. We'll let the members decide. If they agree that there is "not any info" about me or my "knowledge" in the "feature" article......I will ship all my fishing tackle (rods, reels, baits...everything) to you on Monday morning. However, if they decide your claim is false....you send all your tackle to me. Don't worry....I have no need for that wooden boat.....I just want your tackle...all of it! My Shimanos and hard baits alone will more than equal the value of anything you have.

Put up or shut up...ratchet jaws.

"W" 06-18-2011 09:04 PM

Post it up old timer and ill post mine up....and let's see which is better.....and the 9 I'm in

"W" 06-18-2011 09:07 PM

I love when salty attention meter starts spinning...lmao!!!! And let's have Todd Mansion tell the story how you just happened to get the invite and it was never about you!!!

Wide Open 06-18-2011 09:08 PM

Boom! Again!

Super Spook 06-18-2011 09:13 PM

Here we go!

Salty 06-18-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 271268)
Post it up old timer and ill post mine up....and let's see which is better.....and the 9 I'm in

This has nothing to do with yours. I will post mine ONLY if you agree to send me all your tackle if the members agree that my "name" or "knowledge" isn't mentioned. I agree to do the same in the event they decide the contrary. This is not a poll to see which article is better. I didn't say anything about yours......except for the "fact" it was not the "feature" article. :cool: And, yes, I was invited by the editor of the magazine to allow him to do the article. Isn't that the way it's supposed to work? :confused:

specknation 06-18-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 271261)
Dude I fished Lake P with 600 boats in a line and 90% were Tops and no trolling motor....can't lie about it because I saw it with my eyes....looked like soul train live

How many times in your life have u fished Lake P be honest, 600 boats thats BS I fish lake p 50 to 60 times a year and have never seen 600 boats and as far as T-Tops go thats a big lake thing dude face it. You spend a lot of time on here complaining about people fishing in your way you may need to learn some new spots or better yet go somewhere else other than Big lake dont be scared.

"W" 06-18-2011 09:30 PM

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 271282)
This has nothing to do with yours. I will post mine ONLY if you agree to send me all your tackle if the members agree that my "name" or "knowledge" isn't mentioned. I agree to do the same in the event they decide the contrary. This is not a poll to see which article is better. I didn't say anything about yours......except for the "fact" it was not the "feature" article. :cool: And, yes, I was invited by the editor of the magazine to allow him to do the article. Isn't that the way it's supposed to work? :confused:

:rotfl::rotfl: Post it............. Im beging to read the one page

"W" 06-18-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 271294)
How many times in your life have u fished Lake P be honest, 600 boats thats BS I fish lake p 50 to 60 times a year and have never seen 600 boats and as far as T-Tops go thats a big lake thing dude face it. You spend a lot of time on here complaining about people fishing in your way you may need to learn some new spots or better yet go somewhere else other than Big lake dont be scared.

Dude they had boats from 38ft duel 250s to 15ft boats trolling with a 3ft rod on the train track as far as your eyes could see...I don’t know how many pilings are on there but they had damn near a boat on everyone...so you count...and most had no trolling motor at all. Just throw anchor or tie up...... Your Buddy was on the boat fishing with me Pilgrim
and dont say the oil spill did not effect LAKE P..just youtube all the ones from LAKE P at the BP meetings wanting something Free..Looked like a welfare line

specknation 06-18-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 271309)
Dude they had boats from 38ft duel 250s to 15ft boats trolling with a 3ft rod on the train track as far as your eyes could see...I don’t know how many pilings are on there but they had damn near a boat on everyone...so you count...and most had no trolling motor at all. Just throw anchor or tie up...... Your Buddy was on the boat fishing with me Pilgrim
and dont say the oil spill did not effect LAKE P..just youtube all the ones from LAKE P at the BP meetings wanting something Free..Looked like a welfare line

You show at Lake P for one day 2 years ago and you know everything about Lake P that really is sad, stop complaining about other
boats fishing in your way u wanna be a guide the Poes never complain learn some new spots. As far as the oil spill stop watching youtube and reading BS
the best spring and summer in Lake p in ten years last year. There is a big world out there W open your eyes and see PILGRIM

Hebert 06-18-2011 11:43 PM

W...ok so you posted up a opinion of yours on a perceived problem(in your book)...what is your solution to this problem?

tigerhead 06-19-2011 12:29 AM

Better get use to it. This all started when the first big time guide service started on the lake. The change was slow at first but the outcome is inevitable. They educate more and more fisherman every year. Not just on how to fish and where to fish, but worst of all, not to be afraid of the lake.

I can remember the days when even some local fisherman were leery of running into West Cove. They were afraid of the oyster reefs. That was back in the days when the reefs were still healthy. After Rita, a lot of the "Pilgrims" as W calls them were staying off the lake because of the debris.

But guides, GPS, and shallow draft boats have made the lake accessible to anyone that has the money to burn. The only answer is to fish week days, and that isn't even the same anymore.

Ask Houston area fishermen. The weekend fisherman doesn't have a chance of catching a limit on Galveston Bay. The fish have a pattern of locking up on weekends. Look at 2coolfishing.com sometime and see how many fishermen post pics of 3 and 4 fish catches. They are mostly weekend fishermen and are quite proud to have caught anything. The big plus on BL is that the lake supports so many fish, there's tremendous competition for food. So the fish rarely won't bite. They may get spooked but they haven't got the "weekend lock jaw" yet.

PS Protect the estuaries. The marshes are the womb. They are the reason why the lake still supports and produces so may fish. Galveston Bay system use to have a lot more marshes. Once they started to fill them in for new subdivisions, the fishing was in peril.

iron man 06-19-2011 01:09 AM

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"W" 06-19-2011 06:18 AM

The problem would be a easy fix for all if others had respect and would not be such Pilgrims...

I don't ever fish around crowds because I will leave and find my own fish else where...but my point of this is not about weekends its about the Limit change and someone asked if I think more boats so more fish bringing taken out.... So I'm showing no...less fish are being taken out due to more boats!

ckinchen 06-19-2011 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tigerhead (Post 271369)
Better get use to it. This all started when the first big time guide service started on the lake. The change was slow at first but the outcome is inevitable. They educate more and more fisherman every year. Not just on how to fish and where to fish, but worst of all, not to be afraid of the lake.

I can remember the days when even some local fisherman were leery of running into West Cove. They were afraid of the oyster reefs. That was back in the days when the reefs were still healthy. After Rita, a lot of the "Pilgrims" as W
calls them were staying off the lake because of the debris.

But guides, GPS, and shallow draft boats have made the
lake accessible to anyone that has the money to burn.
The only answer is to fish week days, and that isn't even
the same anymore.

Ask Houston area fishermen. The weekend fisherman
doesn't have a chance of catching a limit on Galveston Bay.
The fish have a pattern of locking up on weekends. Look
at 2coolfishing.com sometime and see how many fishermen
post pics of 3 and 4 fish catches. They are mostly
weekend fishermen and are quite proud to have caught
anything. The big plus on BL is that the lake supports so
many fish, there's tremendous competition for food. So the
fish rarely won't bite. They may get spooked but they
haven't got the "weekend lock jaw" yet.

PS Protect the estuaries. The marshes are the womb. They are the reason why the lake still supports and produces so may fish. Galveston Bay system use to have
a lot more marshes. Once they started to fill them in for
new subdivisions, the fishing was in peril.

Very good post, thanks.

SULPHITE 06-19-2011 10:21 AM

There has been a tournament at calc point for three weeks in a row. There is one next weekend. Never had tourneys back in the day

"W" 06-19-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by corkyfatboy (Post 271451)
Should the pot really be calling the kettle black? :shaking:

If its a magnalite then Yes:rolleyes:

SaltyShaw 06-19-2011 01:12 PM

LOL Magnalite For The WIN

Big Kahunaz 06-19-2011 02:57 PM

I know back when i was a kid....we could launch at Heberts and park in the lot in front of the launch w/o having to get there at 5am. Same for Devil's Elbow boat launch (when it was around) W/ the publicity the lake is getting these days...(internet, tournys,....used to only be the shootout if i recall....etc.) its tough to imagine trying to fish big lake 20 years from now. Will be one of those back in the day stories you'll share with your kids. I recall growing up, going to Sam Rayburn every summer and heading out with my grandpa to "ANY" stump and slaying the white perch, and having the launch 1/4 full on the weekends. Now you have to work your tail off to produce a some slabs, and the launches are packed and tournys are EVERY weekend. The pressure is relentless as it continues to grow. I see no change in the direction things are heading.

bayouchub 06-19-2011 03:05 PM

I dont think anyone who post fishing reports has the right to complain about increased fishing pressure in the area they report catches from.

Micah 06-19-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 271495)
I dont think anyone who post fishing reports has the right to complain about increased fishing pressure in the area they report catches from.

This is a very good point! There are a lot of "internet fishermen" out there looking for when and where the fish are biting.

Big Kahunaz 06-19-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 271495)
I dont think anyone who post fishing reports has the right to complain about increased fishing pressure in the area they report catches from.

I agree with you ....but i don't think anyone in this thread is actually complaining...just making comparisons and validations.

Sasparilla 06-19-2011 04:06 PM

Can this be published in LA Sportsman? The comedy section? Great hypothesis.

Ray 06-19-2011 04:11 PM

I was in denial, till I saw the drawing on the first post.
Then it all made cents.

"W" 06-19-2011 04:43 PM

The whole point of the thread was from a question asked about the limit changes..No one is complaining nor do we care how many fish on weekends

Question was : you think there is as many trout taken out of the lake with 15 per person as their was at 25per person due to the increasing of boats

I said no..... there is less trout taken out with more boat pressure...that is the point

But Im about to start posting reports from Lake P on all the hot bridges..

weedeater 06-19-2011 05:16 PM

Maybe Obama can award the Nobel Peace Prize on this topic......know what I am sayin

PUREBAY2200 06-19-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 271539)
The whole point of the thread was from a question asked about the limit changes..No one is complaining nor do we care how many fish on weekends

Question was : you think there is as many trout taken out of the lake with 15 per person as their was at 25per person due to the increasing of boats

I said no..... there is less trout taken out with more boat pressure...that is the point

But Im about to start posting reports from Lake P on all the hot bridges..


W name all the bridges on lake p.....

longsidelandry 06-19-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 271561)
W name 1 bridge on lake p.....

Fixed it for ya. You gotta give the lil fella some sort of chance! :*****:

PUREBAY2200 06-19-2011 05:52 PM

Lol......
W u are dead on with Ur Fishin reports & forecast.

Don dubuc is the real leader of pilgrim nation.....

flounder_smacker 06-19-2011 06:58 PM

what is lil man syndrome?

jchief 06-19-2011 07:12 PM

No one here looks for fishing reports before heading out? Guess I am the only one then. I ain't looking for a "spot" more or less just if the fish are biting on that lake and what bait if someone wants to post it.

Raymond 06-20-2011 04:22 PM

She came from Providence,
the one in Rhode Island
Where the old world shadows hang
heavy in the air
She packed her hopes and dreams
like a refugee
Just as her father came across the sea

She heard about a place people were smilin'
They spoke about the red man's way,
and how they loved the land
And they came from everywhere
to the Great Divide
Seeking a place to stand
or a place to hide

Down in the crowded bars,
out for a good time,
Can't wait to tell them all,
what it's like up there
And they called it paradise
I don't know why
Somebody laid the mountains low
while the town got high

Then the chilly winds blew down
Across the desert
through the canyons of the coast, to
the Malibu
Where the pretty people play,
hungry for power
to light their neon way
and give them things to do

Some rich men came and raped the land,
[. From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/e/eagles...rt-lyrics.html .]
Nobody caught 'em
Put up a bunch of ugly boxes, and Jesus,
people bought 'em
And they called it paradise
The place to be
They watched the hazy sun, sinking in the sea

You can leave it all behind
and sail to Lahaina
just like the missionaries did, so many years ago
They even brought a neon sign: "Jesus is coming"
Brought the white man's burden down
Brought the white man's reign

Who will provide the grand design?
What is yours and what is mine?
'Cause there is no more new frontier
We have got to make it here

We satisfy our endless needs and
justify our bloody deeds,
in the name of destiny and the name
of God

And you can see them there,
On Sunday morning
They stand up and sing about
what it's like up there
They call it paradise
I don't know why
You call someplace paradise,
kiss it goodbye

"W" 06-20-2011 06:25 PM

Greatest Pilgrim song of all


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