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Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 419017)

Thanks for the info !

Who owns the marsh between the BOB canal and the powerline ditch ?

Hydro

I think thats 4 mile square or something like that

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Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 419017)

Thanks for the info !

Who owns the marsh between the BOB canal and the powerline ditch ?

Hydro

Ole boys who own the last camp on the right just before hitting the marsh

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Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 419017)

Thanks for the info !

Who owns the marsh between the BOB canal and the powerline ditch ?

Hydro

Some is Grey Estate ,some belongs to others . Alot of that is just trouble waiting to happen. I guide for Grey Point Lodge on Grey Estate property ,and we even have very limited access. The man over all the property is David Richard at Stream Companies in Lake Charles . He can tell you if it is theirs for sure . If you can get in contact with him.

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Originally Posted by Shawn Braquet (Post 419033)

Ole boys who own the last camp on the right just before hitting the marsh

Thats 4 square . 4 mile square is down by JB .

Lol Mike. Only
Person i know that would run into the law while fishing :):).

Jamie H ;)

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Thanks for the info guys, sounds like the best thing to do is stick to the canals and stay the hell out of the marsh !!!

Hydro

Its like Kenner18 said. Most owned by Grey estate but nearly all managed by Richard.Bottom line,its the Golden Rule-He who has the gold makes the rule.

Maybe we hit the grey estate with the "buffet rule". Bring em down a notch or two! Lol

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Originally Posted by regsterdcoonass (Post 418909)

Hello, my name is mike fuselier, im 24 and im a bass fisherman. I am not here to be inflamatory toward anyone, I would just like input of a few legal matters. Heres my story.

Monday april 9th 2012 I was fishing in a part of sabine river called LOST LAKE. I arrived at the location at around 7:15am and fished the east bank from south to north until around 10am. At 10am my partner and I decided to try a couple spots on the way back to the south side of the lake so we could fish in the shade. As we are making our way back to the South end of the lake we here four women shouting at us, and we hurried up to go meet them. They started telling us to leave and we couldnt be there and we better throw whatever fish we caught back into the lake or we would be arrested and have our equipment taken away from us for TRESPASSING on their property. I asked them why I couldnt fish there several times and they told me it belongs to "THE MARSH CLUB" and i couldnt be there. My response probably came off as rude but wasnt intended, I said well I saw no signs and i found this place on a map of sabine river. Her response was that the place was dredged. She proceded to tell me if I left then that nothing would become of it and do not come back. I rudely told her she had no right, the water is part of sabine river(AND I AM RIGHT). The women started taking pictures of my boat numbers my boat and myself and partner. She then proceded to call her boss who will remain anonymous and he told her to tell me again, I will be arrested by the sheriffs department if I did not leave immediately and if i did nothing would become of it. We left and just went home because we were so aggrevated. On our way out we idled threw the cut instead of running as we did to get in(no need to run its 3-4ft deep) and we saw the old faded sign LICENSED HUNTING PRESERVE trespassers will be prosecuted. Which is fine because I was fishing

Having read this, does anyone know of any law that prevents me from fishing this area? It is my understanding that according to the FEDERAL RIVER LAW, LOUISIANA CIVIL CODES 150-159, and THE PUBLIC TRUST DOCTRINE OF LOUISIANA, I can fish in waters that lay ontop of privately-owned land. Now having said that some of the Louisiana laws conflict with the federal laws(you just have to read them). Regardless of which, the Federal laws always outweigh the state laws.

Were you by chance wearing a hoodie?

nope no hoodie. you are all wrong for giving up so easy. your civil rights re being violated and you could all careless.

The way I understands it is, if they owned the property with a pond on it, then dredged to the river, it is private property. That's not a public lake

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Originally Posted by regsterdcoonass (Post 419269)

nope no hoodie. you are all wrong for giving up so easy. your civil rights re being violated and you could all careless.

You are more than welcome to take the land owners on,trust me you wont be the first one. Its not a matter of giving up easy ,its a battle that has already been fought and lost . Some years back there was a group called P.O.W.(People for Open Water) that took on the land owners over access to the Greys Ditch in Vinton. Long story short its still off limits to the public ,even though it is tidal and runs in the Vinton Drain Ditch.

So go right on ahead and take them on .Good Luck I hope you win.
Just remember -If you stick it out there ,dont be afraid to get it chopped off.

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Originally Posted by regsterdcoonass (Post 419269)

nope no hoodie. you are all wrong for giving up so easy. your civil rights re being violated and you could all careless.

Been there, done this, on both sides of the issue....

Had a club lease in lower Terrebonne Parish which we gated the access canal off to keep looters away from the camps... Lots of headaches because it was "tidal", even though it was on our lease and the landowner blessed the gate installation...

Again in Terrebonne, local businessman purchased land off of main canal which had one of the nicest lakes you have ever seen on it... He had way more dollars than the opposition did and the lake is still off limits...

All I ask for is that these areas are MARKED, but the law states that its YOUR responsibility to know where you are :shaking:...

I do care tremendously about our rights to waterways and other issues that limit access to where I want to go... The problem is that many of us have marched up that hill only to die on it, multiple times...

Hydro

As I said in an earlier post, print you a map and bring it to WL&F and talk to them and see where it gets you

in 2010 an almost exact scenario played out on the red river. the attourney general ruled in favor of the public. I can only hope that it will ahppen again. i WILL fight it to the end with or without the support of other local fishermen.

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Originally Posted by regsterdcoonass (Post 419348)

Why are you so h e l l bent on fishing this specific body of water????????

Good luck and keep us posted !!!

Hydro

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Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 419356)

Why are you so h e l l bent on fishing this specific body of water????????

That's what I'm wonderin'... There a hidden moonshine still back there? Titanic sank back der?

Goodluck, but your in Louisiana, back woods justice over rules all.

lol go and find out for yourself. youd see why.

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Originally Posted by regsterdcoonass (Post 419409)

lol go and find out for yourself. youd see why.

I'm guessing it looks like a bass anglers DREAM. If this is true, I would say that it looks that way because it is private. If that was a public waterway, this conversation wouldn't be taking place. Just my opinion.