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evis102 05-17-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 153486)
Artificial only....

Hands down best artificial fisherman on Big Lake in all categories...fly,numbers,wade,big trout.... Jeff Poe....
There is a long list of great one's on the lake... I could list a bunch... But 90% of them had teachers...someone who showed them a few ropes...

To me Jeff stands out of that crowd

What has Jeff ever done tournament wise. Nothing I know of. If your not willing to put it on the line and produce fish when it matters like Eric, Bruce, Phil and Kevin then your just another good fisherman in a long list of good fisherman.

"W" 05-17-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by evis102 (Post 153536)
What has Jeff ever done tournament wise. Nothing I know of. If your not willing to put it on the line and produce fish when it matters like Eric, Bruce, Phil and Kevin then your just another good fisherman in a long list of good fisherman.

I don't know if jeff ever fished a tournament or not.... Tournaments are not for everyone...Jeff and Mary make all the money they want and have been one of the most successful guide services on the lake.... I don't think you have to chase a tournament trail to be a troutmaster....

exspeck big specks 05-17-2010 08:16 PM

Kirk Stansel and Will Drost are the top two on the lake....Kirk is extremely impressive best I have fished with, he knows that estuary very very well-- just my opinion.

Agree with you W, tourny's stress me out with all the boats, rather go with a good friend and stalk some big daddy's. Like fishing them everyonce in a while if it is sounds like a good time not a serious competition, like the trout shoot-out FUN TOURNEY.

trophytroutman 05-17-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 153457)
I tend to agree with this. Live bait is a proven big fish tactic that works well when other options don't. To be a master, you have to know when to use what. If its live bait, so be it. A Master, imo, is also being able to consitantly catch large fish.

ETA - this ought to go over as well as your last controversial post trophy... :)

i totally agree with the big fish.

Salty 05-17-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by trophytroutman (Post 153446)
What is a troutmaster?My opinion is a fisherman or woman who can in any situation find and catch trout on artificials.Live bait and dead bait in my opinion dont count towards being a troutmaster cause there is nothing to mastering live or dead bait.Artificials you have to smewhat master.You need to be able to knw lure selection,color and presentaion for each situation.Also,fishing the birds dont count either.Just my definition so whats yalls definition cuz everybodys are different?Who in your opinion is the ultimate troutmaster of louisiana?

"Chink" Sumas

:rolleyes:

evis102 05-17-2010 08:46 PM

So if you only fish when the conditions are right and take hero shots of your stringers when you catch fish you are a troutmaster. The reason most of the Big Lake "Troutmasters" do not fish any tournaments is because they do not want to put there rep on the line. Most of what makes a Big Lake troutmaster is hype and marketing. Like I said, If you can not produce fish when it matters you are just another good fisherman in a long line of good fisherman. But I do have a ton of respect for everyone that has made a living as a guide, to be able to put up with sports and catch fish is something that will always be beyond me.

"W" 05-17-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 153553)
"Chink" Sumas

:rolleyes:

:*****::*****::*****::*****::*****::*****: ALRIGHT....Just tore my lung up........:*****::*****::*****:

Salty 05-17-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 153559)
:*****::*****::*****::*****::*****::*****: ALRIGHT....Just tore my lung up........:*****::*****::*****:

Just for you.

FF_T_Warren 05-17-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 153553)
"Chink" Sumas

:rolleyes:

jealousy rearing it's ugly head:shaking:

wtretrievers 05-17-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by speck-chaser (Post 153492)
Another thing to considere too is the area thats being fished. You might consistantly catch nice fish to the east of the state,but not ever catch the giant hawgs that are caught on the west side on a regular basis. Some areas just hold bigger fish. Just like v/b there is some big fish there,but a lot of the year the water is so fresh from the basin overflow,that your not gonna consistantly catch big fish year round,no matter if your a troutmaster or not.

:amen: I've personally have been blessed with working along La's coast. I'm by no means a great speck fisherman......I caught 5x the trout over 5lbs in big lake than I did in Venice.
Can't kill big bucks unless you go where the big bucks are!!!!!!!!!! Does make anyone less of a hunter? NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Salty 05-17-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 153563)
jealousy rearing it's ugly head:shaking:

:eek: :confused:

FF_T_Warren 05-17-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 153569)
:eek: :confused:

?

"W" 05-17-2010 09:01 PM

I'm no Troutmaster and never want to be..........I'm a trout Slinger............ Dont care what size or how big........Just how many.............12inch and above....... Sling em

I like to be done before the dew drys on my windshield

wtretrievers 05-17-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 153572)
I'm no Troutmaster and never want to be..........I'm a trout Slinger............ Dont care what size or how big........Just how many.............12inch and above....... Sling em

I like to be done before the dew drys on my windshield


That's what I'm screaming!!!!!!!!!

Salty 05-17-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 153571)
?

You askin' if I'm jealous of "Chink"?

FF_T_Warren 05-17-2010 09:06 PM

are you saying chink isn't a troutmaster?

huntin fool 05-17-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 153583)
are you saying chink isn't a troutmaster?


ohh lawdd here we go... pass the popcorn please

FF_T_Warren 05-17-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 153596)
ohh lawdd here we go... pass the popcorn please

No popcorn needed. I'm not going to get in a debate over this. I wish I had the book with me, my buddy has it, but how many 9lbs trout did he catch in one day? hands down the man is good. Sorry he fishes with live bait. But I haven't even seen a 9lbs trout caught on this site(or the other site) with or without live bait since I've been here last year(not saying there hasnt been one, I've only been active here for the last few months but still). give the guy props, he's an old man that knows his area and catches big fish simple as that. I don't see where there is anything to discuss:work:

Salty 05-17-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 153598)
No popcorn needed. I'm not going to get in a debate over this. I wish I had the book with me, my buddy has it, but how many 9lbs trout did he catch in one day? thats hands down the man is good. Sorry he fishes with live bait. But I haven't even seen a 9lbs trout caught on this site(or the other site) with or without live bait since I've been here last year(not saying there hasnt been one, I've only been active hear for the last few months but still). give the guy props, he's an old man that knows his area and catches big fish simple as that. I don't see where there is anything to discuss:work:

Here...use mine...page 185.

"W" is much better on this subject than me. :smokin:

FF_T_Warren 05-17-2010 09:54 PM

ok and what does it say on page 185, as I said I don't have the book. my friend borrowed it about a year or so ago. where's my book at, Trey?


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